Roast Cheating Filthy Power Found Guilty, Fined $100k, Club Facing Financial Ruin

[Mr_Moogle]

But so does Drs that represent the AFL

Shit I hadn't thought about that. It sounds like tinfoil hat territory to suggest league doctors would say a player is concussed when he isn't to get them rubbed out and advantage another side. This is the AFL though. After the Essendon doping saga, I wouldn't put anything past them.

 

[FR0GGY]

Maybe they gave them covid tests

Tickle their brain through the nose to see if it’s concussed.

 

[Sanders]

Now that they are confirmed cheats who put the welfare of their players behind beating us, what should the penalty be?

Edit and now listening to Davies they are throwing the doctor under the bus. Surely someone at the club said hang on, he needs a test.

What makes no sense, is that the protocols gave the Doctor no discretion to not perform the test given the relevant circumstances

Performing the test was mandatory.

So why didn’t he?

I don’t mean it in the critical finger pointing way, I mean it literally - why didn’t he? What were the circumstances and influences that led him to make a such a decision.

Did he take the competitive situation into account himself (2 players at once), did someone have a word, was he unfamiliar with the details of the protocol?

Literally, how come he didn’t perform the test?

 

[kirky]

Crows need Port to win both games

We just need to do what we need to do - and that is win. The rest takes care of itself.

 

[Moonwatcher]

s**t I hadn't thought about that. It sounds like tinfoil hat territory to suggest league doctors would say a player is concussed when he isn't to get them rubbed out and advantage another side. This is the AFL though. After the Essendon doping saga, I wouldn't put anything past them.

This is the league that allowed Trent Cotchin to play the grand final.

 

[FR0GGY]

What makes no sense, is that the protocols gave the Doctor no discretion to not perform the test given the relevant circumstances

Performing the test was mandatory.

So why didn’t he?

I don’t mean it in the critical finger pointing way, I mean it literally - why didn’t he? What were the circumstances and influences that led him to make a such a decision.

Did he take the competitive situation into account himself (2 players at once), did someone have a word, was he unfamiliar with the details of the protocol?

Literally, how come he didn’t perform the test?

Well apparently Carr wasn’t coaching the team last night it was Ken.
So one can only assume Carr was doing Marks role instead.

 

[kirky]

Port wanted to win at all costs and totally disregarded their own player welfare.

Does this behaviour surprise anyone? No, they have history.

 

[Crow_68]

Now that they are confirmed cheats who put the welfare of their players behind beating us, what should the penalty be?

Edit and now listening to Davies they are throwing the doctor under the bus. Surely someone at the club said hang on, he needs a test.

Was the Doc operating as Football Manager & Interchange Steward as well? Surely Davies should have done his due diligence and questioned the Doc?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

"Like Lachie, Aliir's condition was the subject of testing both on Saturday night after the game and since," club doctor Mark Fisher said in a statement.

Mark Fisher's position is untenable .....he must resign ! ......clearly an emotional decision, overriding patient care

Chris Davies was on the bench .....he had a responsibility to question the Doctor's actions, based on the optics of the situation ......at the very least, he should have demanded a test
He's equally at blame

 

[FR0GGY]

Was the Doc operating as Football Manager & Interchange Steward as well? Surely Davies should have done his due diligence and questioned the Doc?

Davies seems like he’s the Steward, was the one back slapping aliir as he ran back on.

 

[NSolis]

What makes no sense, is that the protocols gave the Doctor no discretion to not perform the test given the relevant circumstances

Performing the test was mandatory.

So why didn’t he?

I don’t mean it in the critical finger pointing way, I mean it literally - why didn’t he? What were the circumstances and influences that led him to make a such a decision.

Did he take the competitive situation into account himself (2 players at once), did someone have a word, was he unfamiliar with the details of the protocol?

Literally, how come he didn’t perform the test?

This is the thing that gets me too. How could you watch that head clash and determine that there was not a reasonable risk of concussion that warranted a HIA? Whether the players actually had concussion is beside the point.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If the AFL concussion protocol is for 13 days, that means they miss this week and next weeks game.

This must happen.

There has to be a penalty for disregarding the protocol .....I agree with you, automatic missing the next two games

 

[1990crow]

Davies seems like he’s the Steward, was the one back slapping aliir as he ran back on.

Who's to know if Davies and Ken didn't direct the doctor he had to skip the test.

 

[ams4crows]

I don't want them to be fined I want there to be serious draft ramifications or point deductions. So that no team ever again does what they did.

If every team knows shit we'll lose draft picks or premiership points if we don't do the right thing by the player then no club will then risk the safety of a player for 4 points and just say we'll cop the fine

 

[Geoffa32]

Same old Port always cheating

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[Crow-eater]

It does seem interesting that literally the only time you see Ken with the head set on is directly after the head clash. Makes you think...


(This is not a serious post)

 

[jackster83]

How long until Greg Griffen launches another lawsuit? Lol.

 

[StonesThrow]

Whoopsie

 

[WaynesWorld19]

It does seem interesting that literally the only time you see Ken with the head set on is directly after the head clash. Makes you think...


(This is not a serious post)

Hinkley Comment: "sorry I was looking at a different part of the field, and missed the clash. So i really can't comment"

 

[Hodgy]

Port Adelaide doctor Mark Fisher: “Upon reviewing the vision of the incident again, Aliir should have undergone SCAT testing at the time immediately following the collision."

so Ports doctor is admitting his mistake. As expected he will fall on his sword.
the question is to what extent do the AFL find the club culpable for an employees mistake?
My bet is very, as they simply can’t afford the optics of this getting worse. At a time when they are literally suspending players for perfectly legal tackles, they can’t be seen to be exonerating clear player welfare mistakes like this.

 

[Sanders]

This is the thing that gets me too. How could you watch that head clash and determine that there was not a reasonable risk of concussion that warranted a HIA? Whether the players actually had concussion is beside the point.

See below. 1, 2 apply. Even if you don’t agree, 11. Certainly does

If there is even the chance, the possibility that a player might not have made protective actions in his fall, then he must be assessed (mandatory 15 min break).

He didn’t try to break his fall
Because he was out cold. You can see his arms limp as he falls (1,2)

Now even if you see it differently it is impossible to think there wasn’t the possibility he didn’t try to take protective action in the fall (11)

So there was no discretion available not to conduct the test

He didn’t have that option under the rules

So what happened? Why didn’t he

 

[relapse]

What makes no sense, is that the protocols gave the Doctor no discretion to not perform the test given the relevant circumstances

Performing the test was mandatory.

So why didn’t he?

I don’t mean it in the critical finger pointing way, I mean it literally - why didn’t he? What were the circumstances and influences that led him to make a such a decision.

Did he take the competitive situation into account himself (2 players at once), did someone have a word, was he unfamiliar with the details of the protocol?

Literally, how come he didn’t perform the test?

We know why

Port put winning ahead of the health and safety of their players and thought that they would get away with it.

Given that it's happened three or more times already at the same club, it's clearly not just an oversight like they're claiming it to be.

The fact that Port after getting caught are now trying to claim that both players have delayed concussion is a joke, we all know that had the incident been overlooked like they hoped it would that both Aliir and Lachie Jones would have been lining up against Geelong this week.

 

[El Doederino]

My mum always said if you tell the truth, you don’t need to worry about keeping track of what story you’re trying to sell

 

[GROTTO]

It does seem interesting that literally the only time you see Ken with the head set on is directly after the head clash. Makes you think...


(This is not a serious post)

Im still waiting for a gif from GrommoT of Ken cheerleading his team before HT on the boundary line.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

And the spin begins

Is being knocked out a symptom of concussion? Because both presented with that on Saturday night.