Speculation Christian Petracca [UFA 2029]

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Rivers and Mcvee have won more matches in there sleep than Powell has.

Whats it saying about his ability if he is in 50% CBAs and you blokes have only won a dozen games over the past few years? Surely we should expect the same results if he came over.

I dunno, what does it say about Sheezel or LDU or Wardlaw?

Do you reckon they wouldn’t be walk up starts either in the Melbourne midfield with Oliver in his current state, or Tom Sparrow or having to play Pickett through the middle so much?

Powell must be the most fortunate person alive to make the 22u22 midfield selection squad as a fringe player. Or maybe it’s because he’s currently the 4th ranked u22 mid in the comp by CD.
 
Lol, he has attended 50% of North’s CBA’s this season.

Averages 21 disposals a game, over 4 clearances and has kicked significantly more goals than any mid at Melbourne this season apart from Petracca.

If that’s fringe, Rivers and McVee are VFL players.

Like I said, he wouldn’t be on the table anyway. Phillips would be the one added to a deal, not Powell.
Powell would be a minor sweetener, Phillips would simply have 0 value. It's like the dees adding Tom Sparrow or something.
 

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Does having 5x $1M years left on his contract slightly reduce his trade value?

They may end up being extraordinarily expensive final years vs output depending on how his body holds up….
 
Does having 5x $1M years left on his contract slightly reduce his trade value?

They may end up being extraordinarily expensive final years vs output depending on how his body holds up….

It could.

Could also be a bargain based on output given the increase in the cap from next year. If he were being re-contracted right now he would be commanding $1.4 - $1.5M a year.
 
I hope he is still a good player, hopefully 100% of his pre injury self as both a midfielder and a forward.
If he is say 100% as good as a forward but only 90% as good as a midfielder , that's still very good as he is a very good forward.
Could he have a Toby Greene 2023 season in 2025 ( 3 goals a game playing about 85% forward, 15% midfield).
 
I hope he is still a good player, hopefully 100% of his pre injury self as both a midfielder and a forward.
If he is say 100% as good as a forward but only 90% as good as a midfielder , that's still very good as he is a very good forward.
Could he have a Toby Greene 2023 season in 2025 ( 3 goals a game playing about 85% forward, 15% midfield).

If there's any mental scar tissue of copping a knock, it should be flushed out once he's back into contact training. I reckon he'll be good to go. All we have to do in the meantime is watch rival clubs put up their trash and spin it as if it's treasure for a trade scenario.
 
It inflates it, bloke is contracted.

It doesn't when you consider his injury, it does the opposite.

If he's 23/24 years old.

He's probably worth a Top 5 pick + R1 Pick and maybe a fringe player as his max value.

That's in the Judd realm of value.

So lets work back from that:

1. His age: he's 29 next season, this has to have a big impact on value and there's not too many examples of absolute gun players moving at 29 other than Cameron who did it at 28 and went for the equivalent of Pick 11. Hodge, Ablett, Mitchell etc moved in their 30's and went for what were token pick upgrades. Who is the last 29-30 year old who moved for big trade currency?

2. His injury. He's not training, he's not even running yet and can't have a heart rate of above 110. Is he even going to play next year? That risk will have some bearing on it.

3. The contract, whilst Melbourne fans thinks adds value, when you consider point 2, probably only reduces it imo. As there is a possibility, even as minute as it is, his injury could be potentially career ending (or at least significantly decreasing his output), with 5 x 1m a season in it.

So if you work off the starting point and consider the 3 points, where do you finish? Maybe a single pick in the 7-12 range imo?

Melbourne fans seem to think back to the 23/24 year old value...
 

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They say no player is bigger than the club

To me this is a rare exception. You’d clear out several coaches and overheads if it meant keeping Petracca happy at the club. It’s not enough to hold him to his deal and keep things the same. While Petracca, May, Oliver etc are in their prime, you have to make the most of the time they have left and have them happy and wanting.
Personally I would clear out a whole bunch of coaches whether Petracca is happy or not.
 
It doesn't when you consider his injury, it does the opposite.

If he's 23/24 years old.

He's probably worth a Top 5 pick + R1 Pick and maybe a fringe player as his max value.

That's in the Judd realm of value.

So lets work back from that:

1. His age: he's 29 next season, this has to have a big impact on value and there's not too many examples of absolute gun players moving at 29 other than Cameron who did it at 28 and went for the equivalent of Pick 11. Hodge, Ablett, Mitchell etc moved in their 30's and went for what were token pick upgrades. Who is the last 29-30 year old who moved for big trade currency?

2. His injury. He's not training, he's not even running yet and can't have a heart rate of above 110. Is he even going to play next year? That risk will have some bearing on it.

3. The contract, whilst Melbourne fans thinks adds value, when you consider point 2, probably only reduces it imo. As there is a possibility, even as minute as it is, his injury could be potentially career ending (or at least significantly decreasing his output), with 5 x 1m a season in it.

So if you work off the starting point and consider the 3 points, where do you finish? Maybe a single pick in the 7-12 range imo?

Melbourne fans seem to think back to the 23/24 year old value...
This is why I don't think he moves. To make the Dees do it (Pert sent a letter ffs), you'd have to offer something stupid and you just can't justify it given the above.
 
lol. not a chance. Josh Ward is a spud. Mackenzie is a Tom Sparrow clone. be realistic. You wouldn't get Petracca without coughing up multiple firsts (with an early top 5 pick) or a top 5 best 22 player and a future 1. I love how people think that accumulating junk equals treasure.

Josh Weddle and F1.

Mate if its Weddle for Petracca Melbourne are giving Hawthorn a F1!
 
Petracca's not going anywhere, no point wasting time dreaming trade scenarios.

He has however put the Dees hierachy on notice to DO SOMETHING! Let's see what they do now .....
 
Petracca's not going anywhere, no point wasting time dreaming trade scenarios.

He has however put the Dees hierachy on notice to DO SOMETHING! Let's see what they do now .....
It's really bad that Petracca has said this because it may force Tim Lamb into one of the dumbest trades in MFC history, that being drafting Houston, killing our future, in order to appease Petracca.
 
It's really bad that Petracca has said this because it may force Tim Lamb into one of the dumbest trades in MFC history, that being drafting Houston, killing our future, in order to appease Petracca.
hasnt the houston talk started way before this petracca unhappy talk. maybe is the other way around, give up the picks for a decent forward and not a hbf.

dude is sick of kicking it to no one up front.
 
It doesn't when you consider his injury, it does the opposite.

If he's 23/24 years old.

He's probably worth a Top 5 pick + R1 Pick and maybe a fringe player as his max value.

That's in the Judd realm of value.

So lets work back from that:

1. His age: he's 29 next season, this has to have a big impact on value and there's not too many examples of absolute gun players moving at 29 other than Cameron who did it at 28 and went for the equivalent of Pick 11. Hodge, Ablett, Mitchell etc moved in their 30's and went for what were token pick upgrades. Who is the last 29-30 year old who moved for big trade currency?

2. His injury. He's not training, he's not even running yet and can't have a heart rate of above 110. Is he even going to play next year? That risk will have some bearing on it.

3. The contract, whilst Melbourne fans thinks adds value, when you consider point 2, probably only reduces it imo. As there is a possibility, even as minute as it is, his injury could be potentially career ending (or at least significantly decreasing his output), with 5 x 1m a season in it.

So if you work off the starting point and consider the 3 points, where do you finish? Maybe a single pick in the 7-12 range imo?

Melbourne fans seem to think back to the 23/24 year old value...
Remember, when Judd was traded he could barely run and commanded a huge trade of basically two top 4 picks and a 2nd. Clubs literally do not care about the injury risk like punters do on these message boards.
 
I just don't see how any club would satisfy Melbournes huge likely demand.

They would need probably 2 top 10 picks at a minimum maybe more.

I would love him at Hawthorn but he's contracted for ages, hasn't nominated anyone so if he does want to leave he's reliant on Melbourne to be lenient and they won't be
 
Turning Bailey Smith in to Petracca would be the best for dogs. Don't care how much they over pay.
 

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Speculation Christian Petracca [UFA 2029]

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