Current Claremont Murders Discussion & Edwards trial updates pt3 - The Verdict

[Kurve]

Here is
- Claremont Murders - Part One and Part Two
- Media
- The Bunker
- Hey Bret? Stalking Claremont the book.
- Justice Hall's Decision 619 pgs

 

[ms finch]

I find this odd, or is it just me? Why was the Bankwest ATM info supplied Item 517 in the court exhibits for periods outside the murder nights?

SS 27th Jan, 1996
JR 9th June 1996
CG 15th March, 1997

Why weren't ANY of these dates included, or even the months the murders occurred? I realise the Bayview Tce ones on 5/12/1996 establish that BRE had visited and knew the area prior to CG murder (as he had lied and said he didn't know it), but surely the months of the murders would be crucial to see if he WAS there or close by on the nights/early morning after?
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From memory, one bank statement period was missing when CG copied down her notes. It actually coincided with one or both of the murders in 1996 so there was no info for that period. I also think the ones that were presented were the only ones that referred to Claremont.

 

[ms finch]

Had to take a screenshot of this. A very interesting article with a photo of Jane and her dear friend who now lives in San Francisco.

View attachment 996797This caught my eye, Terry Dobson the Detective that handled the Huntingdale break in and attack talks of using dogs to track where the kimono came from.
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I wonder if that was one of the other houses on the prowling list?

 

[Girlnextdoor]

From memory, one bank statement period was missing when CG copied down her notes. It actually coincided with one or both of the murders in 1996 so there was no info for that period. I also think the ones that were presented were the only ones that referred to Claremont.

Yes, Ms Finch, I realise statements were missing but surely Bankwest could supply them if WAPOL asked?? Seems obvious to me, having a husband in banking and finance for decades I know this has always been available, even back in the 90s!

 

[BonzaRam]

Yes, Ms Finch, I realise statements were missing but surely Bankwest could supply them if WAPOL asked?? Seems obvious to me, having a husband in banking and finance for decades I know this has always been available, even back in the 90s!

The bank details were not requested by the police until 2017, over 20 years after the fact. Banks keep records for 7-10 years.

Michael Chivell –evidence summary

335
In 2017 the police asked Mr Chivell for information about withdrawals from the bank in 1996 and 1997. The police provided Mr Chivell with a schedule said to contain a record of ATM bank transactions with Bankwest. Since financial institutions are only required to keep records for seven years Bankwest does not retain any ATM transaction records from the dates in the schedule. Mr Chivell was not able to confirm whether the transactions took place nor provide information about the accounts involved.

 

[Krusty Crab]

Terrific BFew, thanks for sharing. I ask again, was a swab taken from the victim's nail? I think she'd mention that she'd deeply scratched her attacker to police when they came?

DNA wasn't even a consideration back at the time of this attack, plus any blood or tissue on her fingernails would likely be a very small amount relative to the amount needed for testing to obtain blood type and the limited other info that was available from blood tests at the time. i wouldn't be surprised if no swabs were taken from her nails.

 

[BFew]

DNA wasn't even a consideration back at the time of this attack, plus any blood or tissue on her fingernails would likely be a very small amount relative to the amount needed for testing to obtain blood type and the limited other info that was available from blood tests at the time. i wouldn't be surprised if no swabs were taken from her nails.

For all we know, the Huntingdale victim might have already washed her hands at least once before she had even told Police that she had dug her nails into his stubbly face.

 

[ms finch]

Yes, Ms Finch, I realise statements were missing but surely Bankwest could supply them if WAPOL asked?? Seems obvious to me, having a husband in banking and finance for decades I know this has always been available, even back in the 90s!

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were wondering why they didn’t present the information from CG or from what they found in his house that supported what she said. I assume the bank statements could not be obtained from the bank because they were asking for records too far back.

I always thought it was interesting that a potentially crucial one was missing.

I know this has been speculated on to death, but I would love to know why CG started copying information from bank statements including the place of withdrawal. She copied information from before they were together, which hardly seems relevant to spying on relationship activities or for financial settlement purposes. Then she kind’ve just abandoned the notebook.

So odd. I’ve always thought she found the stories, started to suspect him of being the CSK, went looking for evidence and then convinced herself otherwise (as you would probably do at that point just to retain your sanity). As I said, though, speculated on to death.

 

[Girlnextdoor]

The bank details were not requested by the police until 2017, over 20 years after the fact. Banks keep records for 7-10 years.

Michael Chivell –evidence summary

335
In 2017 the police asked Mr Chivell for information about withdrawals from the bank in 1996 and 1997. The police provided Mr Chivell with a schedule said to contain a record of ATM bank transactions with Bankwest. Since financial institutions are only required to keep records for seven years Bankwest does not retain any ATM transaction records from the dates in the schedule. Mr Chivell was not able to confirm whether the transactions took place nor provide information about the accounts involved.

Thanks BonzaRam, I forgot about that, but wonder if the banks DO have some means of keeping records longer considering the ATO can audit you back as far as they wish, 10 or 20 years! They have powers to access your bank records, how would they prove their case if the banks didn't have a means of supplying info? And an interesting thing I discovered was that bankcards have been around since 1974 so electronic records started a long way back.

Years ago in the 1980s the banks kept records on microfiche, my husband was telling me.

"In fact, credit cards were first introduced in Australia in 1974 by Bankcard, making this form of credit just 37 years old. Prior to their introduction, credit cards were something only a few Australians were familiar with, specifically those who had travelled to America."

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"In all cases, it would be best for you to keep all of your records and documents indefinitely. This is because the ATO can audit you after a very long time (e.g. 10 or 20 years) on the basis that the ATO considers that you have committed tax fraud or tax evasion. If that happens, and you have only kept your records for five years, you will end up in a very difficult and unfortunate position where you cannot defend yourself or produce the required documents to the ATO."

Time limit for ATO tax audits in Australia | King Lawyers | Tax Lawyers

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I never knew this, unreal hey Bonza?

 

[BonzaRam]

Thanks BonzaRam, I forgot about that, but wonder if the banks DO have some means of keeping records longer considering the ATO can audit you back as far as they wish, 10 or 20 years! They have powers to access your bank records, how would they prove their case if the banks didn't have a means of supplying info? And an interesting thing I discovered was that bankcards have been around since 1974 so electronic records started a long way back.

Years ago in the 1980s the banks kept records on microfiche, my husband was telling me.

"In fact, credit cards were first introduced in Australia in 1974 by Bankcard, making this form of credit just 37 years old. Prior to their introduction, credit cards were something only a few Australians were familiar with, specifically those who had travelled to America."

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"In all cases, it would be best for you to keep all of your records and documents indefinitely. This is because the ATO can audit you after a very long time (e.g. 10 or 20 years) on the basis that the ATO considers that you have committed tax fraud or tax evasion. If that happens, and you have only kept your records for five years, you will end up in a very difficult and unfortunate position where you cannot defend yourself or produce the required documents to the ATO."

Time limit for ATO tax audits in Australia | King Lawyers | Tax Lawyers

Time limit for ATO tax audits in Australia. Contact King Lawyers for legal advice. Tax lawyers Australia | Tax Solicitors Australia | Tax Law Experts

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I never knew this, unreal hey Bonza?

I believe that is to do specifically with business tax records (as in business operating costs) not customer records.Individuals, by law, only have to keep tax records for any specific year for the next five years. They ATO does not have the power to changes laws to suit themselves.
The Privacy Act comes into play for businesses when it comes to keeping customer records also.

 

[Girlnextdoor]

I believe that is to do specifically with business tax records (as in business operating costs) not customer records.Individuals, by law, only have to keep tax records for any specific year for the next five years. They ATO does not have the power to changes laws to suit themselves.
The Privacy Act comes into play for businesses when it comes to keeping customer records also.

Cheers Bonza, but it does say that in the case of tax fraud or evasion, individuals included.

"No time limit for ATO tax audits if there is tax fraud or tax evasion

If the ATO forms an opinion that a taxpayer’s actions are tax fraud or tax evasion, then there is no time limit for an ATO tax audit."

 

[BonzaRam]

Cheers Bonza, but it does say that in the case of tax fraud or evasion, individuals included.

"No time limit for ATO tax audits if there is tax fraud or tax evasion

If the ATO forms an opinion that a taxpayer’s actions are tax fraud or tax evasion, then there is no time limit for an ATO tax audit."

Yeah I read that as in those circumstances the ATO can start an audit any time they like and dig back as far they like. I would suggest the further back they dig the less information they will find and the time they would start an audit for that would be after discovering proof of fraud or evasion. They can find proof of tax evasion or fraud while they are doing an audit but in that scenario it may be a case of they can ask for any records beyond the normal time frame.

If someone has any problems with tax fraud or evasion i would suggest getting lawyer though.

As an aside, it is tax evasion if you fail to declare any form of income. Interest on bank accounts is income. There are millions of bank accounts that only make a few cents or dollars interest every year. How many people would you reckon declare that income?

 

[one eyed spy]

Had to take a screenshot of this. A very interesting article with a photo of Jane and her dear friend who now lives in San Francisco.

View attachment 996797This caught my eye, Terry Dobson the Detective that handled the Huntingdale break in and attack talks of using dogs to track where the kimono came from.
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CATCHING A SERIAL KILLER - Read this story on Magzter.com

Read this exciting story from Marie Claire Australia November 2020. When three young women were abducted and murdered in Perth during the ’90s, the unsolved crimes haunted the city for decades. Finally, following the most expensive police investigation in Australian history, the Claremont serial...

www.magzter.com

Not that it matters, but the screenshot of Jane with her friend isn't the same person who moved to San Fransisco the article speaks of.

 

[Girlnextdoor]

Not that it matters, but the screenshot of Jane with her friend isn't the same person who moved to San Fransisco the article speaks of.

Oh I thought it was, the nurse. Thanks for correcting me OES.

 

[Girlnextdoor]

We all know about JR's friend Kimdelia, but I hadn't actually seen that JR expected to be picked up by a male friend after the work outing? Was this in the court transcript? Again, screenshot with this magazine.

CLAREMONT MURDERS: ‘Jane knew her killer'

Read this exciting story from WHO October 12, 2020. JUST DAYS BEFORE SHE WAS MURDERED BY CLAREMONT KILLER BRADLEY EDWARDS, THE CHILDCARE WORKER REVEALED TO HER FRIEND KIMDELIA COLE SHE HAD A NEW MAN IN HER LIFE

www.magzter.com

 

[BFew]

We all know about JR's friend Kimdelia, but I hadn't actually seen that JR expected to be picked up by a male friend after the work outing? Was this in the court transcript? Again, screenshot with this magazine.
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CLAREMONT MURDERS: ‘Jane knew her killer'

Read this exciting story from WHO October 12, 2020. JUST DAYS BEFORE SHE WAS MURDERED BY CLAREMONT KILLER BRADLEY EDWARDS, THE CHILDCARE WORKER REVEALED TO HER FRIEND KIMDELIA COLE SHE HAD A NEW MAN IN HER LIFE

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Understandably, WAPOL silence on this matter at this point in time, is probably leaving a fairly even divide between those that think either
1. Kimdelia Cole made it up about Jane's male friend.
2. Kimdelia Cole hid information about Jane's male friend from WAPOL for a while or a long while.
3. Kimdelia Cole is telling the truth about Jane's male friend.

The ball is now back in the court of the WA Justice System to clear this up.
Because if they don't, in the eyes of too many, the cases of Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon will never be closed, regardless of the judicial outcome.

With too many left wondering, if from mid-1996, BRE was suspected of being the killer of Jane Rimmer, and possibly Sarah Spiers, and then when Ciara Glennon went missing in 1997, of Ciara's disappearance and murder too. Suspected by at least whoever Kimdelia Cole disclosed a relationship between BRE and Jane Rimmer too, from shortly after Jane Rimmer went missing.

 

[BonzaRam]

We all know about JR's friend Kimdelia, but I hadn't actually seen that JR expected to be picked up by a male friend after the work outing? Was this in the court transcript? Again, screenshot with this magazine.
View attachment 997642

CLAREMONT MURDERS: ‘Jane knew her killer'

Read this exciting story from WHO October 12, 2020. JUST DAYS BEFORE SHE WAS MURDERED BY CLAREMONT KILLER BRADLEY EDWARDS, THE CHILDCARE WORKER REVEALED TO HER FRIEND KIMDELIA COLE SHE HAD A NEW MAN IN HER LIFE

www.magzter.com

I think Kimdelia Cole has her wires crossed... The male friend she is referring too I believe is "Peter" from the Lacrosse Club. Could this Peter also be the MM?
JR was not going out for a work thing, that was CG...


Sharon McColl – evidence summary .......... Male friend...

750 On the evening of Saturday 8 June 1996 she was in her lounge room watching television. Her son, Peter, had gone out. At about 9.00pm she heard a knock at her door. She opened the security panel on her door and saw a woman with blonde, shiny hair. Ms McColl said 'Hello'. The woman asked her 'Is Peter there?' Ms McColl said 'No, I'm sorry. Who are you?' The woman said 'Jane Rimmer'. She recognised Ms Rimmer's name because her family are members of the lacrosse club. She said 'Jane, was Peter meant to meet you somewhere?' She said 'Oh no, I just called to see if he was here'. 565



Ellen Magditch –evidence summary............Heading to the Lacrosse Club.... why? Peter?

742 Ms Magditch said that Jane was wearing a dark corduroy jacket, jeans and a dark coloured shirt and seemed quite happy. They talked and then Jane left the saloon bar for a few minutes to see if any of her friends were in the public bar. When she came back she said that she was going to the Lacrosse Club at Rosalie Park in Shenton Park. Jane left the hotel by herself. MsMagditch has not seen her since then. 557

Lynda Donovan –evidence summary......... Cole knew 5 days in advance that Ms Donovan was going to invite JR out for the evening?, which was NOT a work thing...

763 On 8 June 1996 Ms Donovan saw Ms Rimmer during the afternoon and told her that she was going out with friends that evening and Ms Rimmer was welcome to join them. Ms Donovan went out for dinner to the OBH in Cottesloe with her friends, Sian Chapman, Ben Rundell and Christine Loxton. She and her friends were finishing their dinner when Ms Rimmer arrived by herself at around 7.00pm.

 

[BFew]

JR was not going out for a work thing, that was CG...

So none of the friends that JR went out at that night were JR's work friends?
(I actually don't know the answer to this question at the moment)

 

[BonzaRam]

So none of the friends that JR went out at that night were JR's work friends?
(I actually don't know the answer to this question at the moment)

JR and Ms Donovan worked at the same place and lived in the same block of units. That is the only connection to work that i can find. From what i can gather the others knew JR through Ms Donovan not through work.

" In 1996 Lynda Donovan was 26 years old and was a friend of Jane Rimmer. They worked together at the Nedlands Child Care Centre. They were both child care assistants and started working at the centre at about the same time. They also lived in the same block of units on Cambridge Street, Wembley. Ms Rimmer lived downstairs and MsDonovan lived upstairs. MsDonovan estimated that MsRimmer had lived there for three months as at June 1996"

 

[BFew]

JR and Ms Donovan worked at the same place and lived in the same block of units. That is the only connection to work that i can find. From what i can gather the others knew JR through Ms Donovan not through work.

" In 1996 Lynda Donovan was 26 years old and was a friend of Jane Rimmer. They worked together at the Nedlands Child Care Centre. They were both child care assistants and started working at the centre at about the same time. They also lived in the same block of units on Cambridge Street, Wembley. Ms Rimmer lived downstairs and MsDonovan lived upstairs. MsDonovan estimated that MsRimmer had lived there for three months as at June 1996"

Based on the above, I can understand how Jane Rimmer's girls night out in Claremont might have been perceived or described as a work thing.

I've been out with many a workmate after work, sometimes directly from work, sometimes not, where it was not a formal work gathering or organised as a work event, and where other friends of my workmates, that were not my workmates, were also there.

Would I have have referred to any of these occasions as a 'work thing' when describing it to my friends or family'?
On some occasions I might have said or conveyed something like that.
Especially for those jobs where there was a lot of socialising between workers during work, at lunchtimes and after work, and only those social events that included no-one connected to work were seen or felt like NOT being a 'work thing'.

Might some of my family or friends have interpreted my description of it as it being a 'work thing', or when telling their family or friends about what I was doing, have described it as a 'work thing'. Possibly.

 

[BonzaRam]

Based on the above, I can understand how Jane Rimmer's girls night out in Claremont might have been perceived or described as a work thing.

I've been out with many a workmate after work, sometimes directly from work, sometimes not, where it was not a formal work gathering or organised as a work event, and where other friends of my workmates, that were not my workmates, were also there.

Would I have have referred to any of these occasions as a 'work thing' when describing it to my friends or family'?
On some occasions I might have said or conveyed something like that.
Especially for those jobs where there was a lot of socialising between workers during work, at lunchtimes and after work, and only those social events that included no-one connected to work were seen or felt like NOT being a 'work thing'.

Might some of my family or friends have interpreted my description of it as it being a 'work thing', or when telling their family or friends about what I was doing, have described it as a 'work thing'. Possibly.

Oh yeah I agree that someone saying they are going out with a group of workmates or a workmate could be construed as a work thing but Kimdelia is claiming JR told her about it 5 days before hand. Ms Donovan is quite clear about seeing JR that afternoon and inviting her out for that evening. The time frames don't match. i put more creedence in a friend that worked and lived where JR did on that date.

 

[BFew]

Oh yeah I agree that someone saying they are going out with a group of workmates or a workmate could be construed as a work thing but Kimdelia is claiming JR told her about it 5 days before hand. Ms Donovan is quite clear about seeing JR that afternoon and inviting her out for that evening. The time frames don't match. i put more creedence in a friend that worked and lived where JR did on that date.

We don't know exactly what Kimdelia is claiming, as you are going by a magazine article that is not quoting Kimdelia, and even if it was quoting Kimdelia might have been edited or written in a way that leaves many readers with a different impression to what actually happened.

For example, the Michael Crooks article GND posted says
'Five days before childcare worker Jane Rimmer disappeared, she told her close friend Kimdelia Cole she had weekend plans to go to Claremont'

For all we know, Jane Rimmer had initial plans to go to Claremont either by herself, or with other friends, that did not involve any of her workmates, or with other workmates or ex-workmates that did not involve Ms Donovan, who she ended up going to Claremont with after first going to the OBH in Cottesloe.

The bit of the article that says "She didn't really want to got out, it was a work thing", is not beyond reasonable doubt proven to be 100% connected to the same "plans to go to Claremont" as in the first bit of the article.

At this point, my above opinions are ignoring what was previous said and reported to have been said by Kimdelia on this matter.

I'm just trying to keep an open mind and not jump to premature conclusions on this matter.

Particularly as there has been enough time since Kimdelia's claims to the media in Private and then in Public, for the WA Justice System to charge her for any blatantly false claims on this matter, and/or put out a suppression order on media reporting of any false claims she has made on this matter, and neither of these have occurred.

Surely if the claims were false, the WA Justice System would not just sit there and do absolutely nothing to refute them?

Can anyone come up with a valid possible reason someone in the WA Justice System would not have at last publicly refuted any of Kimdelia Cole's claims by now?
(Not saying there aren't any valid reasons, like that they are still gathering evidence by which to charge her with something, or waiting until the BRE sentencing/appeals are out of the way before doing so).

 

[BonzaRam]

We don't know exactly what Kimdelia is claiming, as you are going by a magazine article that is not quoting Kimdelia, and even if it was quoting Kimdelia might have been edited or written in a way that leaves many readers with a different impression to what actually happened.

For example, the Michael Crooks article GND posted says
'Five days before childcare worker Jane Rimmer disappeared, she told her close friend Kimdelia Cole she had weekend plans to go to Claremont'

For all we know, Jane Rimmer had initial plans to go to Claremont either by herself, or with other friends, that did not involve any of her workmates, or with other workmates or ex-workmates that did not involve Ms Donovan, who she ended up going to Claremont with after first going to the OBH in Cottesloe.

The bit of the article that says "She didn't really want to got out, it was a work thing", is not beyond reasonable doubt proven to be 100% connected to the same "plans to go to Claremont" as in the first bit of the article.

At this point, my above opinions are ignoring what was previous said and reported to have been said by Kimdelia on this matter.

I'm just trying to keep an open mind and not jump to premature conclusions on this matter.

Particularly as there has been enough time since Kimdelia's claims to the media in Private and then in Public, for the WA Justice System to charge her for any blatantly false claims on this matter, and/or put out a suppression order on media reporting of any false claims she has made on this matter, and neither of these have occurred.

Surely if the claims were false, the WA Justice System would not just sit there and do absolutely nothing to refute them?

Can anyone come up with a valid possible reason someone in the WA Justice System would not have at last publicly refuted any of Kimdelia Cole's claims by now?
(Not saying there aren't any valid reasons, like that they are still gathering evidence by which to charge her with something, or waiting until the BRE sentencing/appeals are out of the way before doing so).

How can they charge her with anything?. The only person who can prove what she says is correct or wrong is no longer here to do so.

Seen as her hairdresser appointment was in the morning it implies she had plans to go out that evening before Ms Donovan made the offer for her to join them. We know JR was heading to the Lacrosse Club and later went to Peter's mothers home. He wasn't there.... and we know JR was upset that night about her physical condition etc. When do people start to get critical about themselves in situations like this? At a time when a love interest seems to be rejecting them perhaps? Would they perhaps drink excessively to drown their sorrows? We know JR was not steady on her feet at the end of the nights clubbing.

 

[BFew]

How can they charge her with anything?.

I recall (rightly or wrongly) Kimdelia saying either in a media interview, or the media reporting (rightly or wrongly) that Kimdelia had told WAPOL about the pre-arranged meeting JR had with Bogsy/someone that night. Maybe my recollection of this is faulty?

If there is no evidence from Police records of Kimdelia ever being interviewed by WAPOL for being a friend of JR, and/or WAPOL refute that Kimdelia ever reported this to them, surely they can charge her with making false reports to Police?

Surely Kimdelia was interviewed by WAPOL in 1996 having been a friend of JR and there being records of phone calls between Kimdelia and JR (on either Kimdelia or JR's personal or families phones, or their work phones). As I assume that Police did a good basic detective job back then of looking at phone records of who JR made calls to and who she received calls from, and followed up on any names by face to face interviews and statements looking for clues for who Jane might have arranged to meet up with that fateful midnight, on the basis that there was a reasonable chance the killer was someone known to her that was meant to be giving her a lift home that night.

And if Kimdelia was interviewed by WAPOL in 1996, there should still be written and accurate evidence of what was and was not said by Kimdelia in the interview.

 

[BonzaRam]

I recall (rightly or wrongly) Kimdelia saying either in a media interview, or the media reporting (rightly or wrongly) that Kimdelia had told WAPOL about the pre-arranged meeting JR had with Bogsy/someone that night. Maybe my recollection of this is faulty?

If there is no evidence from Police records of Kimdelia ever being interviewed by WAPOL for being a friend of JR, and/or WAPOL refute that Kimdelia ever reported this to them, surely they can charge her with making false reports to Police?

Surely Kimdelia was interviewed by WAPOL in 1996 having been a friend of JR and there being records of phone calls between Kimdelia and JR (on either Kimdelia or JR's personal or families phones, or their work phones). As I assume that Police did a good basic detective job back then of looking at phone records of who JR made calls to and who she received calls from, and followed up on any names by face to face interviews and statements looking for clues for who Jane might have arranged to meet up with that fateful midnight, on the basis that there was a reasonable chance the killer was someone known to her that was meant to be giving her a lift home that night.

And if Kimdelia was interviewed by WAPOL in 1996, there should still be written and accurate evidence of what was and was not said by Kimdelia in the interview.

i have not seen anything that says she gave a statement to the police in the media or the court documents. As for giving a false statement if they did interview her, i doubt it, she, like everyone else, is relying on her memory.

I have may have missed something earlier the but the first I heard of her in relation to this was in the media (channel 7 i think) after the Verdict was given.

 

[BFew]

'Five days before childcare worker Jane Rimmer disappeared, she told her close friend Kimdelia Cole she had weekend plans to go to Claremont'

Just a reminder that 7NEWS reported in writing and had Kimdelia claiming in her video story/interview with Kimdelia on this that she spoke to Jane on the
phone the day that Jane disappeared later that night.

Nothing in that article or accompanying video news story/interview that mentioned anything about WAPOL, or any interactions Kimdelia had with WAPOL.
Which pretty much only leaves the West's CSK podcasts as where Kimdelia's interactions or lack of with WAPOL over the CSK case back in 1996, or ay any time since, might have been discussed.

I clearly recall Kimdelia being brought up again in a very recent weeks West's CSK podcast, but no mention or discussion of what was said in this thread/forum.

Stunning new claim Claremont victim Jane Rimmer 'knew her killer'

Jane Rimmer may have known the man who, on Thursday, was convicted of killing her: Bradley Robert Edwards.

7news.com.au

'7NEWS has spoken to the woman who spoke to Jane Rimmer on the phone the night she disappeared.'
'Jane told her friend she was catching up with a new friend, a man she called “Bogsey.”'
'Cole says Jane told her in that phone call she was planning to meet her new friend “Bogsey” in Claremont that night.'