Speculation Clayton Oliver [UFA 2030]

[Demon in Hell]

Petracca staying. Reckon there was a condition. Oliver goes.

Reckon you would be wrong.

 

[Demon in Hell]

Petracca doesn’t want to play with him. He will go now..I’d be surprised he stays.

You could not be more wrong. Both Clarry and Trac are staying.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Zero trade value so won’t be going anywhere.

 

[Cleric]

Trac and Oliver relationship has deteriorated a ton in the past 18 months, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Oliver is out now.

Trac said one of the reasons he wanted to leave was because of how weak the club was with Oliver. That's pretty harsh stuff.

 

[THE_GUN]

That contract is way too scary

 

[Daka]

2030 is crazy, he could be on more than Petracca salary wise too, no one would know.

 

[danster168]

Zero trade value so won’t be going anywhere.

Even though opposition send taggers to him in probably 12 games this season....

There will always be trade value when a guy has been the best mid in the game only a couple of seasons ago.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Even though opposition send taggers to him in probably 12 games this season....

There will always be trade value when a guy has been the best mid in the game only a couple of seasons ago.

I admit I only watched may a 7 or 8 Melbourne games this year but I did not once for one second see anyone actually bother defending him. He just jogged around mostly.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Even though opposition send taggers to him in probably 12 games this season....

There will always be trade value when a guy has been the best mid in the game only a couple of seasons ago.

It is the contact, the baggage and the down form which means you won’t get anything back for him without doing a Collingwood and paying a massive chunk of his salary. Best bet is to keep and hope he recaptures his form.

He wasn’t tagged once this past season either.

 

[Cleric]

It is the contact, the baggage and the down form which means you won’t get anything back for him without doing a Collingwood and paying a massive chunk of his salary. Best bet is to keep and hope he recaptures his form.

He wasn’t tagged once this past season either.

Adelaide is the club that has put the most into chasing him, and would take him on.
For Oliver the decision would be if he wanted to leave Victoria, which obviously is a big move. I think if it was a big Victorian club that was pushing like Adelaide has, he would be gone.

Will be interesting to see how they try to mend the waters with Oliver and Trac. I see they have already put it out there via Tom Morris that their relationship is still OK, and not really bad. He's saying that Tracs issue wasn't with Oliver, but the way the club let him get away with it. I'm not sure Oliver is happy for Trac to use his behaviour as an example of what's wrong with the club.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Adelaide is the club that has put the most into chasing him, and would take him on.
For Oliver the decision would be if he wanted to leave Victoria, which obviously is a big move. I think if it was a big Victorian club that was pushing like Adelaide has, he would be gone.

Will be interesting to see how they try to mend the waters with Oliver and Trac. I see they have already put it out there via Tom Morris that their relationship is still OK, and not really bad. He's saying that Tracs issue wasn't with Oliver, but the way the club let him get away with it. I'm not sure Oliver is happy for Trac to use his behaviour as an example of what's wrong with the club.

Adelaide would be into him as a distressed asset, they aren't giving up any high picks though.

 

[Cleric]

Adelaide would be into him as a distressed asset, they aren't giving up any high picks though.

Depends. He is what Adelaide needs, and they may think the issue is with Melbourne and not him. Take him out of there and give him a new start. You don't lose your talent.

 

[danster168]

It is the contact, the baggage and the down form which means you won’t get anything back for him without doing a Collingwood and paying a massive chunk of his salary. Best bet is to keep and hope he recaptures his form.

He wasn’t tagged once this past season either.

huh? he was tagged many times this year. no idea what you're on about but at least get your facts right. Even Goodwin said in his press conferences that he must be doing something right to warrant the tag most weeks.

not gonna continue this chat if you can't get basic facts right.

 

[danster168]

I admit I only watched may a 7 or 8 Melbourne games this year but I did not once for one second see anyone actually bother defending him. He just jogged around mostly.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8671644/oliver-braces-for-tags-in-demons-afl-finals-fight/

he was the first choice tag for oppo coaches this season

 

[CatToTheFuture]

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8671644/oliver-braces-for-tags-in-demons-afl-finals-fight/

he was the first choice tag for oppo coaches this season

Having actively avoided watching too many North games this year I can't speak to that specific game, but from what I saw I can only imagine Goodwin is making an attempt to minimise poor performances in the media and gibe fans a defensive talking point to cling to.

Again, I only watched half a dozen or so Melbourne games but outside normal defensive positioning at stoppages I didn't see much attention given to Clarry, and with how little damage he was inflicting I didn't see any reason to tag him in the first place.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

I can only imagine Goodwin is making an attempt to minimise poor performances in the media and gibe fans a defensive talking point to cling to.

Oh yeah, I'm sure Goody's real concerned about that.

He got tagged in more.than a few games this year, that's a fact. That you didn't watch them or don't think he deserved to be tagged is irrelevant.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Oh yeah, I'm sure Goody's real concerned about that.

He got tagged in more.than a few games this year, that's a fact. That you didn't watch them or don't think he deserved to be tagged is irrelevant.

I'm the first to call out that I didn't watch all his games. Which one would I have to watch to see him tagged in?

 

[markm106]

Trac said one of the reasons he wanted to leave was because of how weak the club was with Oliver. That's pretty harsh stuff.

I would say it was a factor that players like Clarry and Smith were taking the piss. Especially Clarry on his contract. But on your post, is this a quote? Or insinuation?

 

[Vindicater]

The contract means he is going nowhere this offseason.

 

[markm106]

The contract means he is going nowhere this offseason.

I feel that and the fact club and player have put in some hard yards since everything went pear shaped.

 

[Cleric]

It's starting to get out a bit more in the media, so interesting to see how much steam it gets in the off season. Max and the club are busy trying to reconcile the playing group.

 

[1970crow]

Trac and Oliver relationship has deteriorated a ton in the past 18 months, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Oliver is out now.

What happened, was there an event or have they just generally not gotten along?

 

[brutus76]

if the Pies are still paying a % of the Grundy deal surely the Dees stump up 250-500k a year to get him off their list?

 

[1990crow]

It's starting to get out a bit more in the media, so interesting to see how much steam it gets in the off season. Max and the club are busy trying to reconcile the playing group.
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Rowe is probably just quoting bigfooty.

 

[TBM]

It's starting to get out a bit more in the media, so interesting to see how much steam it gets in the off season. Max and the club are busy trying to reconcile the playing group.
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and what did Caro say? I'd back her sources over Rowey's.