Rumour Clayton Oliver

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

Bit of a worry.
Yes, he's rich, got a club supporting him, but rich people top themselves or do stupid shit. Look at Musk (sorry Musk fans), and the club is supporting him to play well. If he didn't perform or caused too much unease it'd be 'thanks for your service Clarry!'. So it's not the same support as family, and he'd be aware that the support is conditional from the club, even though individuals in the club would love him. So I'm not so sure having the club's support would put his mind at ease.
Is he responsible for his actions? Yes, we all are. If I get rogered on booze and go for a drive, even though my mind is mush, have a prang and the police arrest me. I'm probably going away for a while to learn a new lifestyle with less freedom.
Can he control his actions? Starting to seem unlikely, and that may not be a choice in the 'we all make choices sense'. I don't think anybody chooses to blow up their life, but maybe their thinking is so shit, for whatever reason, that doing destructive things seems reasonable, or feels better than doing nothing?

 

[Head Selector]

Wonder if Melbourne would consider parting company with him at the end of 24. Crows should send Burgess over there to check on his welfare and quietly tell him he is most welcome at Adelaide if he asks for a trade and genuinely feels that getting away from the city of Melbourne would be good for him.

Do Not Want .

 

[HirdyLannister]

So pushing shopping trolley's onto public roadways or urinating on public drinking fountains after bad sporting losses in my late teens/early 20s isn't okay?

Boy is my face red..

No, it's not ok.

 

[Kappa]

So pushing shopping trolley's onto public roadways or urinating on public drinking fountains after bad sporting losses in my late teens/early 20s isn't okay?

Boy is my face red..

There's a mental illness people like you have.

It's where you don't give a shit about anyone else and think you're the centre of the world.

Generally people who act like that have pretty shitty lives so w/e.

 

[Tandy]

I'm thinking are these medical issues perhaps some type of mental illness condition he was born with maybe along with some other developmental disorders (Don't want to identify exactly what I think they are) That would explain the vague and private nature of Melbourne's handling of it all. Would also explain alot of the poor decisions and irrational behaviour over the years. I go back to a podcast episode he featured on with another Melbourne player maybe Petracca on Ausmerican Aces or Ball Magnets this year where I really noticed some irratic behaviour from him. Hopefully he gets the help he needs. This is more than your blanket statement mental illness

 

[South of the Yarra]

My experiences in life have taught me it doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, have access to support or don't have access to support. If you are struggling in life, sometimes taking support is the last thing you will do. He is just a kid, things like this can turn horribly wrong all too quickly. Have seen it too many times. Give the kid a break. Life is precious, football is not.

 

[woopy doo]

Anyone else heard that Clarry may like to stick things in places certain things don't belong?

Metal knives in toasters, alfoil in microwaves, old pizza boxes in recycling. Cmon mate spill

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

irratic behaviour from him.

He was irate?
Just kidding.
I don't think people understand what certain brain configurations do to your outlook and how you manage yourself to stimulus. Someone with autism will freak out, for example, and just go off when they hear a noise, or feel crowded, or whatever. I'm not saying that's Oliver, just it's not something you just say 'no', and it's gone. It takes a lot of training and work, just to pass as normal or not do stupid shit. That generalizes to other developmental issues.

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

He's really not a kid at 26.5 years of age.

I think the agreed age of mental maturity is 25. If you have developmental issues, then with help you might be getting mature at that age.

 

[bobs head soup]

So the Gawns have had a baby Tuesday.

Max has headed to training camp Wednesday.

Almost simultaneously Clarry has cleared out and presumably gone home to the Gawns.

So Ms Gawn has got a very newborn and Clarry on her hands solo.

If that's not a ripping premise for a sit com, I give up.

 

[South of the Yarra]

He's really not a kid at 26.5 years of age.

When you are my age, he is. And does it really matter. He is a young man struggling for Gods sake, do we all just sink the boots in because he doesn't wear our colour jumper.

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

He's still not at a 'kid' at nearly 27 years of age.

Some people never mature. Plenty of kids are very mature.

See if this follows...
Plenty of kids are very mature, so you can be mature at a young age.
Some people never mature, so you can be not mature at an old age.
Therefore, from the perspective of maturity, a kid can be an adult, and an adult can be a child?

 

[Kappa]

When you are my age, he is. And does it really matter. He is a young man struggling for Gods sake, do we all just sink the boots in because he doesn't wear our colour jumper.

I think people are sinking the boot in because of his actions that show he doesn't give a shit about anyone except himself.

 

[bobs head soup]

There's no way they, the club or the Gawn's, would consider having him stay at the Gawn's with his wife, who is the mum of a toddler and a newborn as appropriate support for Oliver. That would be ridiculous. She would need her own support.

What type of husband & father is Max, if he were to allow that.

That would be absurd.

Still a good scenario for a sit com though.

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

I think people are sinking the boot in because of his actions that show he doesn't give a s**t about anyone except himself.

He doesn't seem to think beyond the instant. I say that with no knowledge except for a few news reports.
To me, that's a developmental, not psychopathic trait. But I'm just a punter spouting opinions.

 

[Fabab]

So pushing shopping trolley's onto public roadways or urinating on public drinking fountains after bad sporting losses in my late teens/early 20s isn't okay?

Boy is my face red..

you are a joke ,pity one of the rich snobs didnt catch you and bash the * out of you. self entitled piece of garbage.

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

No. You're talking about maturity. You can be an idiot your whole life.

But you are adult from 18. You're not a kid when you're nearly 27.

It's not complicated.

Oliver is a grown adult man. He's not a kid. He could very well be a dickhead. And for the rest of his life. But he's an adult dickhead.

OK, so when your saying kid, you're not talking about being a 'kid' as you wrote before.
Why did you write this: 'Some people never mature. Plenty of kids are very mature.'
You're clearly talking about maturity. Not about being an adult (as in the agreed age of maturity in society).
It is a bit complicated following you.
Yes, I'd agree he's a 'dickhead', not because he's malicious, just unable to control his actions. But again, I know nothing.

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

Mate, it's not difficult.

Oliver is obviously a very immature adult man.

He's not a kid. Mature or otherwise.

He's an ADULT.

I know, but you were the one who said it's about maturity, and when I talked about maturity, changed the subject to the legal age of adulthood.
Anyway, adulthood just says your legally responsible, which I've said several times. It doesn't actually have any bearing on reality of your mental age, it's just a rule of thumb. Which you've agreed with. So, he's an immature adult, at 27 with the maturity of a kid, so it's pretty obvious from a distance what's going on (not the particulars). He should be punished for legal infractions, as we all should, the judge can determine mitigating circumstances, but I'm not gonna blast him, as he's clearly unable to act as we think a 27 year old should.

 

[Stottzy]

Oliver is just another footballer that just has no personality and thinks "jackass" humour is hilarious still. Then cries for people to "lighten up. I'm only young" when he is pulled up on it. He's not in a minority unfortunately.

 

[South of the Yarra]

I think people are sinking the boot in because of his actions that show he doesn't give a s**t about anyone except himself.

And you know that ? No you have no idea what he cares about. You are speculating

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

And you know that ? No you have no idea what he cares about. You are speculating

I think we're all speculating a bit here.

 

[South of the Yarra]

It doesn't matter what age you or I are, 26 years of age is not a kid.

Go and have a read of what the Dee's supporters are saying about him, lol. We're mild on here compared to them. In fact, he has more support on here from oppo supporters than he does from Dee's supporters.

He just got busted for driving whilst suspended because of a medical condition. I don't have much sympathy for someone who does that. A few weeks ago 6 people lost their lives in the town I live in because of a bloke who drove into them due to his medical condition.

I don't care what Dees supporters are saying about him. Yes, a tragedy but as far as I know it was not Oliver that did that so why are you linking the two.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

you are a joke ,pity one of the rich snobs didnt catch you and bash the * out of you. self entitled piece of garbage.

Nice Melt Triggered McTriggered.

It happened 20 years ago
Me and the lads don't do it anymore.

Lighten up ya obnoxious pill

 

[South of the Yarra]

The link is very clear. I have absolutely no sympathy for a bloke who chooses to drive whilst suspended due to a medical condition. And that's what Oliver did.

A few on here seem happy to keep making excuses for him.

The Dee's supporters are sick of him and all his different weekly saga's. And I don't blame them.

I hope that if you have or ever have kids that one of them does no go through what Oliver is going through. Wonder if you would turn your back on them and sink the boots so quickly.

 

[brutus76]

"Clarry on my wayward son"