Opinion Collingwood and Richmond, who finishes higher in 2023?

[White Dogg]

Collingwood added Mitchell to their midfield while Richmond added Taranto and Hopper. Both were finals sides who were thereabouts in 2022 and having both strengthened their midfields it'll be interesting to see who finishes higher in 2023.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Pies also added mighty Dan McStay.

 

[Rich01]

Pies also added mighty Dan McStay.

A minor upgrade on Mason Cox.
I wonder if Bobby Hill and Billy Frampton come straight into the 22 or they are more depth players. Not sure who they replace in their current side.

Fly will be hoping Mitchell buys into their game plan. More two way running and defending when he doesn’t have the ball. Less possessions for Tom next year as they will want him only used as first possession out of a contest. But could be just as effective if he’s used this way.

 

[VinnieB]

A minor upgrade on Mason Cox.
I wonder if Bobby Hill and Billy Frampton come straight into the 22 or they are more depth players. Not sure who they replace in their current side.

Fly will be hoping Mitchell buys into their game plan. More two way running and defending when he doesn’t have the ball. Less possessions for Tom next year as they will want him only used as first possession out of a contest. But could be just as effective if he’s used this way.

I don't think Bobby Hill will play forward.
I wouldn't be surprised if he is further up the field. Maybe wing.

McStay while not a champion, contests hard not dissimilar to Mihocek. About time he got some assistance up forward.
Charlie Dean (unfortunately injured this season when about to make his debut), will probably get the first crack as that 'other' tall backman we lacked, but Frampton's height will be just what we need.

I think the Pies will be a fascinating watch. New coaching team in Yr2 continuing to build their team and fixing holes.

 

[Falcon3518]

Richmond finish 3rd, Pies 6-7th.

I just don’t see Pies getting that close game win streak again and teams will have figured them out already. I love Fly, but he is a one trick pony that literally just copied our style.

Recruits will improve them a bit but not enough imo. Pretty much everybody in the top 8 has improved their list better or at least on par with them.


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[Tristan34]

I have pies up there with Geelong, Melbourne and Sydney.. They will be the top 4 next season IMO.

 

[Rich01]

I don't think Bobby Hill will play forward.
I wouldn't be surprised if he is further up the field. Maybe wing.

McStay while not a champion, contests hard not dissimilar to Mihocek. About time he got some assistance up forward.
Charlie Dean (unfortunately injured this season when about to make his debut), will probably get the first crack as that 'other' tall backman we lacked, but Frampton's height will be just what we need.

I think the Pies will be a fascinating watch. New coaching team in Yr2 continuing to build their team and fixing holes.

So Mitchell, Hill, Dean, McStay in for?

 

[Gone Critical]

Hard to call . Suspect both will be in a fight for a top 8 spot. My biased guess will be Pies just inside the 8 and Tigers just outside

 

[Meteoric Rise]

If Collingwood finishes higher then neither team will have won the Grand Final that is for sure.

 

[Arr0w]

Think Tigers finish top 4, Pies in the mix for a 5th to 8th finish

 

[Fadge]

So Mitchell, Hill, Dean, McStay in for?

The thing is, how often does a team ever have their absolute best 22 to choose from.

Let's see how the season evolves - it's exciting to have the versatility and depth Collingwood currently has.

 

[Warwick]

Pies also added mighty Dan McStay.

But don't forget the Tigers' super new recruit, Dusty Martin..

 

[Danw0w]

Only Collingwood fans will pick Collingwood lol

 

[Fadge]

Only Collingwood fans will pick Collingwood lol

Delusion is real.

Hopefully they address the issues with ARC in 2023...

 

[Rich01]

The thing is, how often does a team ever have their absolute best 22 to choose from.

Let's see how the season evolves - it's exciting to have the versatility and depth Collingwood currently has.

I didn’t think all of those four were best 22 either.

 

[Fadge]

I didn’t think all of those four were best 22 either.

That's not what I said.

 

[Robertio]

The thing is, how often does a team ever have their absolute best 22 to choose from.

Let's see how the season evolves - it's exciting to have the versatility and depth Collingwood currently has.

What depth ?

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

If Collingwood finishes higher then neither team will have won the Grand Final that is for sure.

When you consider the facts, 2 in 64 years, sounds about right MR.

 

[Rich01]

That's not what I said.

So answer the question.
Who do they replace in your best 22

 

[Fadge]

So answer the question.
Who do they replace in your best 22

WTF is a best 22?

When does any team have access to their best 22? Ever?

 

[Rich01]

WTF is a best 22?

When does any team have access to their best 22? Ever?

You are unfamiliar with the concept of a teams best 22?

 

[Fadge]

You are unfamiliar with the concept of a teams best 22?

I am familiar with the concept, but it's a useless concept.

Were Marlion Pickett or Liam Baker in Richmond's best 22 at the start of 2019? Nathan Broad or Jack Graham at the start of 2017?

I don't subscribe to the concept and therefore don't waste my time thinking about it or discussing it.

 

[VinnieB]

When you consider the facts, 2 in 64 years, sounds about right MR.

Fact is Carton asked, and received, a handout from the AFL.

Don’t think you’ll find the big clubs grovelling like that.

 

[Fadge]

I have pies up there with Geelong, Melbourne and Sydney.. They will be the top 4 next season IMO.

Throw in Brisbane and those 5 teams will be a class above the rest.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Collingwood. Were a kick away from a grand final.. Richmond way off the mark