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THE STATS THAT MUST BE CONCERNING COLLINGWOOD

Collingwood is missing a handful of its best players and coach Craig McRae is confident his team’s recent form dip can be overcome, but there are some concerning signs.

And it isn’t solely about personnel.

A team that was the best defensive side in the competition at stages of this season is now being scored against too easily.

It’s almost been almost one month in a leaky boat, and they need to start plugging the holes as soon as possible.

That won’t be easy, with Darcy Moore out until the qualifying final, with Nathan Murphy nursing a back injury, and a clear preference to play Jeremy Howe in attack. The latter might need to be overturned out of necessity against the Bombers on Friday night.

Here are a few stats that should concern the Magpies ahead of their Round 24 clash, and the finals.

The Magpies conceded 100 points only twice in the first 20 rounds of this season; they have now done so in three weeks in a row.

That’s the first time that Collingwood has given up 100 points in three consecutive weeks since Rounds 16-18, 2008.

The last time that happened was when Nick Daicos was five, Scott Pendlebury was in his third AFL season and Mason Cox was a beanpole US high school soccer defender who had never heard of Australian football.

The reality is that Collingwood has conceded 50 goals across the past three weeks, and if you add the Carlton loss from the week before, that figure is 64 goals conceded in a month.

McRae said: “We’re not happy with the way we’re defending the ground. Opposition are certainly trying to keep the ball off us at times. We’ll get to work on this and find out exactly why. We’ve got time to work on it, we’re not finished yet.”

He’s right, of course. The Magpies have played themselves into a position of ladder strength across the season. But just as much as they need to get quality players back on the field again, they also must find a way to start defending the ground better again – and fast!
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jmac70 said:
Typically shallow article from the Herald Sun. It’s astounding that people get paid for this.
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Most of the time I'd agree with you when it comes to that newspaper, but the article was written by Glenn McFarlane. He's a decent journo, and definitely one of the good guys (grandson of Charlie Dibbs, 5-time Collingwood premiership winner)! There's nothing there we should be fussed about; it's quite reasonable criticism.
 

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jmac70 said:
Typically shallow article from the Herald Sun. It’s astounding that people get paid for this.
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You see maybe it's not the article this time around, because what was written is 100% correct.

Teams are bombarding the defensive lineup with clean entry passes the last 4 weeks.

Maybe you need to actually put the bias aside and see facts and objectively blatant evidence the Pies are playing like a 9th team the last month or so... if not outside the top 10.
 
windchimes said:
That article uses a lot of words to say ‘Collingwood need to stop opponent teams from kicking so many goals’.
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Exactly. There is no real analysis of why we have conceded 100+ points, three weeks in a row. Other than Moore being out.
 
upnsmoke said:
You see maybe it's not the article this time around, because what was written is 100% correct.

Teams are bombarding the defensive lineup with clean entry passes the last 4 weeks.

Maybe you need to actually put the bias aside and see facts and objectively blatant evidence the Pies are playing like a 9th team the last month or so... if not outside the top 10.
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I didn’t say it wasn’t correct.
 
35Daicos said:
Most of the time I'd agree with you when it comes to that newspaper, but the article was written by Glenn McFarlane. He's a decent journo, and definitely one of the good guys (grandson of Charlie Dibbs, 5-time Collingwood premiership winner)! There's nothing there we should be fussed about; it's quite reasonable criticism.
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That’s besides the point, it’s shallow analysis. “Letting opponents score more is bad” really doesn’t need saying, let alone being the subject of an article
 
jmac70 said:
Exactly. There is no real analysis of why we have conceded 100+ points, three weeks in a row. Other than Moore being out.
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To me it’s been pretty obvious a lot of scores have come from free flowing ball out of our forward line, cutting our zone apart, then allowing an uncontested kick long and deep into the middle of our forward line. Add to that, we seem to have (especially against bris) too many flying for the ball and allowing oppo players like Cameron free rein on the ground ball. We can’t seem to get the balance of zoning off to help, v being accountable for your own man. Because if the ball isn’t killed, it’s likely leading do a goal

All can be fixed, we weren’t number 1 for 90% of the season by chance
 
35Daicos said:
Most of the time I'd agree with you when it comes to that newspaper, but the article was written by Glenn McFarlane. He's a decent journo, and definitely one of the good guys (grandson of Charlie Dibbs, 5-time Collingwood premiership winner)! There's nothing there we should be fussed about; it's quite reasonable criticism.
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It's a shit article no matter who he's related to, zero depth, zero creativity. Dinosaur fossil journo.
 
Maggie5 said:
This was good from the article, should be more of it:

fans around the alleged perpetrator called out the man for his behaviour.
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ElliottsMaggies said:
Hopefully it was Collingwood supporters who called out this behaviour. And the media reports it as such.
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danielnajdek said:
And pigs fly.
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When you wear your supporter colors you’re an ambassador for the supporter base.

The people who typically get themselves into trouble either don’t get that, or don’t give a toss about that.
 

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stormskye said:
To me it’s been pretty obvious a lot of scores have come from free flowing ball out of our forward line, cutting our zone apart, then allowing an uncontested kick long and deep into the middle of our forward line. Add to that, we seem to have (especially against bris) too many flying for the ball and allowing oppo players like Cameron free rein on the ground ball. We can’t seem to get the balance of zoning off to help, v being accountable for your own man. Because if the ball isn’t killed, it’s likely leading do a goal

All can be fixed, we weren’t number 1 for 90% of the season by chance
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I don’t think we allowed much free flowing ball into their forward line, well no more than they allowed us.

They killed us off the deck in their forward half - our small defenders had really poor games.
 
Kirby said:
I don’t think we allowed much free flowing ball into their forward line, well no more than they allowed us.

They killed us off the deck in their forward half - our small defenders had really poor games.
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Quaynor had a bad one he’d learn from. Just can’t contest aerially when you are sitting on Cameron when he’s waiting out the back.
 
I think you need to play Cameron from behind him. Because we press up we tend to be in front of our opponents - but I think we need to make an exception with him.
 
pz5151 said:
It's at least partially caused by how quickly and easily the ball is coming in to the back 50. The midfield is getting smashed every week at the moment.
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Yes and until we get Naicos and De Gouy back in there it,s likely to keep happening,I think the time for changing things is over we should have bit the bullet 6 weeks back when it was starting to turn bad.
 
The headline for that Cameron article should have been “fans call out racist behaviour directed at Brisbane’s Charlie Cameron”. Actually celebrate the anti-racist behaviour rather than leave it as a footnote. Yes, the racist comments are lamentable, but this is the way forward.
 

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