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Collingwood’s premiership captain Tony Shaw says the Pies must revert to the back six that earned them premiership favouritism in September as Jeremy Howe prepares to start in defence against Essendon.
Shaw believes Brownlow Medal favourite Nick Daicos must also be deployed in defence again when he returns from a knee issue, with hopes rising he could play in the qualifying final.
It is understood the Pies could consider Daicos as a sub in that first final if his knee responds to a training load when he starts running next week given he will not have played in five weeks.
It would allow him to make an impact off the bench and build his game time for the knockout encounters that would come later in September.
Collingwood has undergone a dramatic late-season slump in the past five weeks, going from the most miserly defence in football to its worst.
Champion Data’s statistic show the Pies are 14th in inside-50 differential, 16th in opposition points from turnovers and 14th in contested possession differential.
Howe has played forward in the past fortnight — and pinch-hit as a forward with three-last quarter goals against Carlton in round 20.
Coach Craig McRaeflagged him starting back against an injury-hit Essendon to shore up the Pies defence.PLAYERCARDSTARTCraig Mcrae
- Age
- 51
- Ht
- 176cm
- Wt
- 73kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 12.9
- 3star
- K
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- 3star
- HB
- 3.9
- 3star
- M
- 2.4
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- T
- 1.9
- 4star
- G
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No current season stats available
- D
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- K
- 10.6
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- M
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- 2star
- T
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- G
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PLAYERCARDEND
And Shaw, who won the Norm Smith Medal as the premiership captain in 1990, believes it is only the start of getting the band back together.
Moore (hamstring) will return in the qualifying final and Nathan Murphywill miss against Essendon with a hip flexor issue but Shaw says they must solidify their defence come September.PLAYERCARDSTART28Nathan Murphy
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 90kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 11.5
- 3star
- K
- 6.5
- 3star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 1.5
- 3star
- MG
- 176.5
- 3star
No current season stats available
- D
- 11.5
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- K
- 6.5
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- 5.0
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- T
- 1.5
- 4star
- MG
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PLAYERCARDEND
“I would like to get back to our back six when we had that run early in the season,” he said.
“We are getting beaten in the contest and Nick has played midfield but I would put Nick back with that back six of (Isaac Quaynor), John NoblePLAYERCARDSTART3Isaac Quaynor
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 180cm
- Wt
- 88kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 14.7
- 4star
- K
- 6.7
- 3star
- HB
- 8.0
- 5star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.7
- 4star
- MG
- 244.0
- 4star
- D
- 14.7
- 4star
- K
- 6.7
- 3star
- HB
- 8.0
- 4star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.7
- 4star
- MG
- 244.0
- 4star
- D
- 14.7
- 4star
- K
- 6.7
- 3star
- HB
- 8.0
- 5star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.7
- 5star
- MG
- 244.0
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND, Brayden MaynardPLAYERCARDSTART9John Noble
- Age
- 27
- Ht
- 180cm
- Wt
- 72kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 16.3
- 4star
- K
- 9.2
- 4star
- HB
- 7.1
- 4star
- M
- 3.5
- 4star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- MG
- 186.1
- 3star
- D
- 14.2
- 3star
- K
- 7.7
- 3star
- HB
- 6.5
- 4star
- M
- 3.2
- 3star
- T
- 1.8
- 3star
- MG
- 149.7
- 3star
- D
- 18.8
- 5star
- K
- 11.0
- 4star
- HB
- 7.8
- 5star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- MG
- 229.8
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND, Howe, Moore and Murphy.PLAYERCARDSTART4Brayden Maynard
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 189cm
- Wt
- 93kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 17.4
- 4star
- K
- 11.6
- 4star
- HB
- 5.9
- 4star
- M
- 3.9
- 4star
- T
- 3.6
- 5star
- MG
- 327.8
- 4star
- D
- 20.7
- 5star
- K
- 14.0
- 5star
- HB
- 6.7
- 4star
- M
- 3.9
- 4star
- T
- 3.0
- 4star
- MG
- 417.4
- 5star
- D
- 13.8
- 4star
- K
- 8.6
- 4star
- HB
- 5.2
- 4star
- M
- 2.8
- 3star
- T
- 3.6
- 5star
- MG
- 205.8
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
“It is easier to tag Nick in the midfield than coming off half back. If a team wants to tag him, his opponent has to kick a goal there, which Finn Maginness doesn’t do. In the midfield he might get 35 but in defence even if he gets 25 possessions he generates so much run from there.”
So what does Collingwood need to fix to revitalise its premiership dream?
We take a look at the key questions.
ARE COLLINGWOOD’S BACK SIX PRIORITISING DEFENCE OVER ATTACK?
Shaw believes the Pies’ defenders need to get back to defending.
Early in the year Darcy Moorewas intercepting at will but from rounds 19-23 but Moore and Brayden MaynardPLAYERCARDSTART30Darcy Moore
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 203cm
- Wt
- 100kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 11.1
- 3star
- K
- 7.0
- 3star
- HB
- 4.1
- 3star
- M
- 4.8
- 5star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- MG
- 169.1
- 3star
- D
- 13.9
- 3star
- K
- 7.3
- 3star
- HB
- 6.6
- 4star
- M
- 4.9
- 5star
- T
- 0.7
- 1star
- MG
- 182.0
- 3star
- D
- 6.8
- 2star
- K
- 4.2
- 2star
- HB
- 2.6
- 3star
- M
- 2.6
- 3star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- MG
- 87.4
- 2star
PLAYERCARDENDhave conceded 12 goals.PLAYERCARDSTART4Brayden Maynard
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 189cm
- Wt
- 93kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 17.4
- 4star
- K
- 11.6
- 4star
- HB
- 5.9
- 4star
- M
- 3.9
- 4star
- T
- 3.6
- 5star
- MG
- 327.8
- 4star
- D
- 20.7
- 5star
- K
- 14.0
- 5star
- HB
- 6.7
- 4star
- M
- 3.9
- 4star
- T
- 3.0
- 4star
- MG
- 417.4
- 5star
- D
- 13.8
- 4star
- K
- 8.6
- 4star
- HB
- 5.2
- 4star
- M
- 2.8
- 3star
- T
- 3.6
- 5star
- MG
- 205.8
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
Moore has only played three full games in that time as well as 29 minutes before damaging his hamstring against Geelong.
He conceded four goals against Port Adelaide (two to Charlie Dixon, one to Jeremy FinlaysonPLAYERCARDSTART22Charlie Dixon
- Age
- 34
- Ht
- 200cm
- Wt
- 110kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 11.7
- 3star
- K
- 6.9
- 3star
- HB
- 4.7
- 3star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
- D
- 10.5
- 3star
- K
- 7.0
- 3star
- HB
- 3.5
- 2star
- M
- 5.0
- 5star
- T
- 1.5
- 2star
- G
- 2.5
- 5star
- D
- 8.2
- 2star
- K
- 4.4
- 2star
- HB
- 3.8
- 3star
- M
- 2.0
- 3star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 0.8
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND, one to Ollie Henry), four to Charlie CurnowPLAYERCARDSTART11Jeremy Finlayson
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 197cm
- Wt
- 93kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 13.5
- 3star
- K
- 9.9
- 4star
- HB
- 3.6
- 3star
- M
- 4.5
- 4star
- T
- 1.4
- 3star
- G
- 1.3
- 5star
- D
- 7.0
- 1star
- K
- 7.0
- 3star
- HB
- 0.0
- 1star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 2.0
- 3star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
- D
- 18.4
- 5star
- K
- 12.6
- 5star
- HB
- 5.8
- 4star
- M
- 3.8
- 4star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDENDand four goals to various opponents against Hawthorn.PLAYERCARDSTART30Charlie Curnow
- Age
- 27
- Ht
- 194cm
- Wt
- 94kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 13.3
- 3star
- K
- 9.7
- 4star
- HB
- 3.6
- 3star
- M
- 5.3
- 5star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- G
- 1.3
- 5star
No current season stats available
- D
- 10.8
- 3star
- K
- 6.4
- 3star
- HB
- 4.4
- 4star
- M
- 3.2
- 4star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- G
- 0.8
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
Maynard conceded four goals to Jeremy Cameronin another sign big key forwards are monstering the Pies.PLAYERCARDSTART5Jeremy Cameron
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 196cm
- Wt
- 94kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 12.5
- 3star
- K
- 9.0
- 3star
- HB
- 3.4
- 3star
- M
- 5.4
- 5star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- G
- 2.6
- 5star
- D
- 10.0
- 3star
- K
- 7.1
- 3star
- HB
- 2.9
- 2star
- M
- 4.6
- 4star
- T
- 2.0
- 3star
- G
- 1.9
- 5star
- D
- 8.2
- 2star
- K
- 5.0
- 2star
- HB
- 3.2
- 3star
- M
- 4.6
- 5star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- G
- 2.0
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
“Moore likes to zone off and he needs to start playing shoulder-on-shoulder now. He is giving his opponent too much leeway,” Shaw said.
“We have been eaten alive with our issues. The zoning off might help with the offensive stuff but he has to stop his opponent kicking goals.”
HOW DO THE PIES GET BACK THEIR FULL GROUND DEFENCE?
As Shaw says: “I just don’t think Collingwood has been as manic defensively as they were. It’s a long year and they have qualified early and there have been injuries which have upset the structure of the team. So it’s time to straighten up their style and thinking, get back to playing their best personnel and play them in the right spot.”
Collingwood is conceding a score from 46 per cent of inside 50 entries since round 19.
So the ball is entering their forward 50 at warp speed, which means the midfield isn’t pressuring to turn the ball over or at least force dirty ball – high pressured kicks.
“We are well aware of what we need to fix. We need to defend better. Those things are fixable,” coach Craig McRaesaid.PLAYERCARDSTARTCraig Mcrae
- Age
- 51
- Ht
- 176cm
- Wt
- 73kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 12.9
- 3star
- K
- 9.0
- 3star
- HB
- 3.9
- 3star
- M
- 2.4
- 3star
- T
- 1.9
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 16.2
- 4star
- K
- 10.6
- 4star
- HB
- 5.6
- 4star
- M
- 1.8
- 2star
- T
- 1.2
- 3star
- G
- 1.4
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
“They are not-personnel based. I can show you the little details we can get right and tidy up. You look slow when you are chasing tail. We are not defending the ground well enough and there are parts of your game that might be exposed. We are not perfect. When we get our system right those things won’t show up enough if that is an issue.”
CAN COLLINGWOOD WIN A FLAG GENERATING SO FEW INSIDE 50s?
Collingwood is 17th for inside 50s since round 19 but is so efficient they are still sixth in scoring (88.6 points).
But they have generated 44 inside 50s against Port Adelaide, 53 against Carlton, 43 against Hawthorn, 45 against Geelong and 47 against Brisbane.
They are also third in the AFL since round 19 in accuracy.
In the chaos of September – when pressure soars and games can descend into low-scoring contest battles – are those numbers sustainable?
Recent history would say no.
But Collingwood has enough talent – and enough time – to address those issues and get its premiership race back on track, starting against Essendon.
To be clear are you shitting on him because he’s casting doubt over our ability to win it all? You’re then throwing his profile pic in as evidence? Numbers people don’t do that. He’s looking at the numbers and comparing what we’ve done the past 6 weeks with what every premier for 20+ years has done. To argue a data head you have to show he’s taking the wrong numbers or the wrong window.******* flog he is
History has literally no bearing on the future, the numbers are already flawed.To be clear are you shitting on him because he’s casting doubt over our ability to win it all? You’re then throwing his profile pic in as evidence? Numbers people don’t do that. He’s looking at the numbers and comparing what we’ve done the past 6 weeks with what every premier for 20+ years has done. To argue a data head you have to show he’s taking the wrong numbers or the wrong window.
What's the codeWas it just me or was there a bit of 'code' in Kane Cornes's Age article yesterday? Anybody else pick it up, or am I being paranoid?
The numbers are the numbers they’re never flawed, but that’s at least a logical argument compared to the profile pic one.History has literally no bearing on the future, the numbers are already flawed.
I don't know what profile pic you're talking about. I replied to a video/tweet originally.The numbers are the numbers they’re never flawed, but that’s at least a logical argument compared to the profile pic one.
His Twitter pic is Geelong https://twitter.com/Hoyney35
Really?I don't know what profile pic you're talking about. I replied to a video/tweet originally.