List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2022-->

[Anzacday]

Key dates attached so we know what’s going on when.

• Friday 30 September at 9.00am

• AFL Restricted Free Agency and Unrestricted Free Agency Period commences

Monday 03 October at 9.00am

• AFL Trade Period commences – Players & Selections

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

• Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October

• AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
• AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm

• AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections

Thursday 03 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
• AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

• AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

• 2022 AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)
• Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

• AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)
• 2022 AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

• AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
• AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

• Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[No SPIN]

Would Hawks do

16, Future 1st and the Grundy pick 27 for Mitchell and Pick 6 and future 2nd.

Definitely

 

[Mongo Ming]

OMG the MEGA ZOOPER DOOPER trade just went down.

Purple is going to soil himself.

 

[stormskye]

You’ve got this completely wrong.
An athletic, mobile Ruckman, who can run all day fits the new game plan exactly. ie.Grundy

That’s why Fly said Grundy makes us better.

You don’t think McRae has any input in Grundy leaving?

 

[TradeDraft]

OMG the MEGA ZOOPER DOOPER trade just went down.

Purple is going to soil himself.

My Care Factor is 0%

 

[Mongo Ming]

OMG this has more members swapping equipment than a 70s swinger’s party. WTF:



This is definitely the most maths Ned Guy has done since high school. I’d be getting out the calculator.

 

[No SPIN]

You don’t think McRae has any input in Grundy leaving?

Let’s assume Grundy is unhappy for some reason and McCrae has unsuccessfully tried to help.
Then the decision to trade him in such circumstances, has nothing to do with Grundy’s ability, or change the fact that McCrae rates Grundy highly as a footballer.

 

[unplugged]

Just imagining AFL house trying to work out a way to tweet the latest deal in one single tweet. Might be a few abbreviations or a multi stage tweet, that.

 

[Jen2310]

Just imagining AFL house trying to work out a way to tweet the latest deal in one single tweet. Might be a few abbreviations or a multi stage tweet, that.

might need a few tweets and be like..
mega trade -- a thread, see below

 

[Mongo Ming]

Just imagining AFL house trying to work out a way to tweet the latest deal in one single tweet. Might be a few abbreviations or a multi stage tweet, that.

That trade needs an Epilogue FFS.

 

[eyeroller]

OMG this has more members swapping equipment than a 70s swinger’s party. WTF:

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This is definitely the most maths Ned Guy has done since high school. I’d be getting out the calculator.

it actually is pretty super mega

 

[Mongo Ming]

it actually is pretty super mega

It’s the “Big Gulp” of trades TBH. And that also works for my earlier swinger’s party reference.

 

[BEEG]

OMG this has more members swapping equipment than a 70s swinger’s party. WTF:

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This is definitely the most maths Ned Guy has done since high school. I’d be getting out the calculator.

My head hurts.

 

[Matt_352]

OMG this has more members swapping equipment than a 70s swinger’s party. WTF:

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This is definitely the most maths Ned Guy has done since high school. I’d be getting out the calculator.

Norf the winners here I feel.

 

[Mongo Ming]

Norf the winners here I feel.

And so they should be. Getting drafted to Norf is like being re-assigned to a Siberian gulag. But still…

 

[Apex36]

OMG this has more members swapping equipment than a 70s swinger’s party. WTF:

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This is definitely the most maths Ned Guy has done since high school. I’d be getting out the calculator.

 

[Juan Ide]

Not disagreeing with you but regarding Point 5, is this what happened? I don't watch VFL so I'm keen on your view

Absolutely. Fly in his presser the week Henry was dumped. explained that he'd been demoted to work on certain aspects of his game, and particularly his defensive pressure. The next period saw his tackles drop to about half of what they had been. Went several games without laying one. He kicked a couple of goals here and there, usually in the last quarter, which has always been his specialty. Other than that, had minimal disposals (I know it's hard for forward pocket forwards to amass touches, so I'm not knocking him). Frankly, however, he played with even more diffidence and lack of engagement than he'd shown in the firsts. I watched almost every one of his VFL games and, like everyone, marveled at his occasional flashes of brilliance; but it seemed clear to me that he'd lost interest.

 

[Mkcaptain]

North board is melting

 

[Bramax]

I was looking back on the thread I got banned from - about 70% of the posters respectfully disagreed with me which is fine. The other 30% just hurled abuse. Which I don't care about.
But it's clear the mods were in the 30% group.

That doesn't help with the mods.

 

[VinnieB]

Norf the winners here I feel.

could get the 2nd and 3rd best midfielders in the draft and set themselves up.
But I'm sure they will find a way to stuff it up some way.

 

[Mongo Ming]

Rendell pronouncing Busslinger:

 

[stormskye]

Let’s assume Grundy is unhappy for some reason and McCrae has unsuccessfully tried to help.
Then the decision to trade him in such circumstances, has nothing to do with Grundy’s ability, or change the fact that McCrae rates Grundy highly as a footballer.

Think writings pretty clear spinny. For a multitude of reasons, fly and co want him out

 

[KJpie]

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This is definitely the most maths Ned Guy has done since high school. I’d be getting out the calculator.

Port allowed to trade out this years first, their future 1st, 2nd & 3rd whilst regaining a future 2nd & 3rd back.
Scats will have a present first back in in pick 7, possibly future 2nd back for Ratagalea from Port, so Scats future first to Pies Thx AFL

 

[TradeDraft]

North board is melting

We probably do that after Henry is Traded away

I wonder IF David King still thinks he is better then Nick Daicos

 

[Jen2310]

Geelong’s final offer for Collingwood’s mid-forward Ollie Henry will be pick 25 as the Cats hope the Pies relent to hand him a new start down the Princes Highway.

The Cats and Pies have not made ground on a deal for Henry, with Geelong adamant it will not use its No.7 overall selection in a pick slide or swap that would see it securing Collingwood’s No.16 selection.

Geelong and the Suns are expected to lodge the papers for Bowes in the next 24 hours, with the Cats handing over their future third-rounder.

Geelong off-loaded picks 38, 48 and 55 in this year’s draft as well as future second and fourth-round picks to secure that No.25 selection from Brisbane.

The Cats were aware Collingwood wanted a first-round pick for the former No.17 draft selection but could not find a club prepared to off-load a pick in that range.
So they will hope Collingwood eventually relents on an extremely talented player who Geelong sees as uncontracted and not able to remain in the Pies side in the finals.

They do not have any future picks to hand over given they have traded them away and they have picks 25, 58 and 64 in this draft.

Their only option is to trade out Esava Ratugolea

27

Esava Ratugolea

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.2

4star

MG

131.6

2star

D

8.1

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

109.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

133.8

3star

for Port Adelaide’s pick 33 and use that selection in part to clinch the deal.

Geelong is steadfast in its desire to retain contracted defender Ratugolea but that could change by the trade deadline.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-follow-all-the-latest-news-on-all-the-big-deals-as-they-happen/news-story/fe70d07d2dcde91b876ca9cc6ab29385

 

[HFF]

Anyone think we may just cave and accept 25 on its own?

The fact that they dealt 18 to GWS knowing that’s what we asked for…really leaves a sour taste overall