List Mgmt. Our Trade/FA, Suburban & Country Town Thread

[TheVillageIdiot7]

Yep

Not sure how that really changes what I said

Schultz is really only the one miss of Wrights imo. He's allowed one surely?

As much as i want to stay out of this convo (again)....its super frustrating reading the argument that "we overpaid".

Take a step back and think, as of last year, what was he worth?

I'd argue he was worth a mid / late teens pick. Disagree?

Shoota will immediately give a better output than what you'd expect from a mid teens pick (he had an ok year and if that's his baseline.....i'm fine with that).
He is far more likely to play 100 games for us than a mid/late teens pick.

Now add to the equation as to what assets we had.
We didn't have a mid / late teens pick and we couldn't get our hands on one.
No "best 23" players left. So we had no real way of getting the capital we needed.

Hence, the ONLY option was to use the F1, which on all expectations would have been the mid/late teens pick.
Linking that decision to poor performance this year would basically mean no one EVER trades a future pick.
Ironically, the pick Freo will end up taking in the draft will actaualy only a be a few spots from the "mid teens" range.

That pick was absolutely reasonable for a walk up best 23 player that locks away a best 23 spot for 5+ years.

The ONLY issue you can possible take with the deal IMO was the R2 pick with nothing coming back.
We didn't care about it because we had no intention of using it.
But pushing that into something this year (via an F3/F4 coming back) would have been smarter business.

 

[manicpie]

I'm getting whiplash from people changing their minds so frequently.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Bobby's manager confirmed on Trade Radio that discussions have commenced with the club about extending/restructuring his deal.

 

[nahnah]

Bobby and Maynard are the priority re-signings this year

 

[Scodog10]

Bobby's manager confirmed on Trade Radio that discussions have commenced with the club about extending/restructuring his deal.

Blow me down with a feather! This one will be an interesting watch.

 

[Exambolor]

Bobby's manager confirmed on Trade Radio that discussions have commenced with the club about extending/restructuring his deal.

Ok so can we stop the panicking then about him going to Freo?

 

[Tadpole]

No wonder I've got such a massive headache, particularly at the back left, right now (I wish I was joking, but no).

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Blow me down with a feather! This one will be an interesting watch.

Direct quote:

"That'll play out. I don't expect that to be imminent; that might have a bit of a lifeline to it, but we're having those discussions."

 

[Scodog10]

Direct quote:

"That'll play out. I don't expect that to be imminent; that might have a bit of a lifeline to it, but we're having those discussions."

If there’s one thing I’ve learned the past week since we got serious about Perryman this one is going to shock some on here!

 

[nahnah]

I'd give Bobby billions if i could, his performance on September 30, 2023 was priceless

 

[Gabbo64]

When your a small forward

A big part of your job is to kick and handball well and efficiently and make the most of your opportunities which he doesn’t do yet

Which Joey Richards does extremely well. I can't see a reason for letting him go unless we get overs for him.

 

[Pendles!]

If there’s one thing I’ve learned the past week since we got serious about Perryman this one is going to shock some on here!

What’s your prediction?

 

[nahnah]

Which Joey Richards does extremely well. I can't see a reason for letting him go unless we get overs for him.

He is uncontracted, we can't just keep him if we choose like we can for Noble

 

[CheckerTrade666]

Bobby's manager confirmed on Trade Radio that discussions have commenced with the club about extending/restructuring his deal.

Thank gosh. If you go on the AFL website his face is right their with the headline of ‘Hill in talks’.Thought it was a possible trade rumour away. Absolutely trolled

 

[sr36]

Houston and Perryman are wildly different cost scenarios.

One’s OOC and receiving a significant pay increase while the other is having their tab picked up and might be on unders for their output. If word came out that we were re-structuring Houston’s deal in line with his output he’d be on $1.2m going forward. Do you think we’re venturing into those waters?

I agree with your take that clubs will value things differently I’ll still sit with cash being king though because of its ability to shape the minds of a recruit. I also can’t fault that assessment it just differs from your initial take. I would say though that GC’s top end is nowhere near the level of the other 5 (us included). Right now the only two on their list I’d actively chase are Flanders and Andrew. The rest fold faster than Superman on laundry day which is why they can’t put it together on the road.

I don't know with GC and they've always struggled to recruit and retain so salary cap space for them is a bit of a different scenario, at least until they're a respected team. But assume they'll bet ton what they've got and will continue to get coming through to provide the top end - and they probably can't attract it any other way.

I'm just not convinced they'll overpay for Noble. Rioli is their high priority. Is Noble a high priority too? A back up? Something they think would be nice but not willing to pay a bomb for if they have Rioli already? My view is that a high price for Rioli helps Richmond and not us as it means that they might place less value on Noble and could shift their value towards future points for matching. I hope it plays out with him getting us a big return, but it's a guess. Our best chance of getting a good return could be to get it done early, because the price may drop after Rioli is over the line. If Richmond are being ridiculous GC might be best off getting the Noble deal done and then pretending to walk away from Rioli to get Richmond to play ball.

 

[VinnieB]

It’s a long exchange you’re jumping in on here and that was never my point…

oopsy.

 

[Ugene41]

If there’s one thing I’ve learned the past week since we got serious about Perryman this one is going to shock some on here!

This has been talked about way before Perryman was chased as a FA.

It will be the standard contract extension in signed one year before the comes out of contract end of 2026.

I'm willing to hold a bet and revisit that it won't be anywhere near the $1m p.a. you've been sprouting.

 

[Gabbo64]

He is uncontracted, we can't just keep him if we choose like we can for Noble

But we can match offers

 

[Scodog10]

What’s your prediction?

My guess is it’ll start with a 1. No idea what the second number will be. Here’s to me being wrong!

This has been talked about way before Perryman was chased as a FA.

It will be the standard contract extension in signed one year before the comes out of contract end of 2026.

I'm willing to hold a bet and revisit that it won't be anywhere near the $1m p.a. you've been sprouting.

Happy to have a slab on it! Colin Young isn’t known for ****ing spiders

 

[SchuPie]

I struggle to understand how freos first pick is already better than Schultz. He could be a complete spud that we'd be waiting 3 years until he becomes a regular contributor

Doesn’t matter who they pick, it has no impact on who we may have selected - we’ll never know

 

[SchuPie]

If other clubs are interested this could throw a spanner in the works should he decide to leave

If he leaves, I hope his price shoots through the roof

 

[Scodog10]

I don't know with GC and they've always struggled to recruit and retain so salary cap space for them is a bit of a different scenario, at least until they're a respected team. But assume they'll bet ton what they've got and will continue to get coming through to provide the top end - and they probably can't attract it any other way.

I'm just not convinced they'll overpay for Noble. Rioli is their high priority. Is Noble a high priority too? A back up? Something they think would be nice but not willing to pay a bomb for if they have Rioli already? My view is that a high price for Rioli helps Richmond and not us as it means that they might place less value on Noble and could shift their value towards future points for matching. I hope it plays out with him getting us a big return, but it's a guess. Our best chance of getting a good return could be to get it done early, because the price may drop after Rioli is over the line. If Richmond are being ridiculous GC might be best off getting the Noble deal done and then pretending to walk away from Rioli to get Richmond to play ball.

Last night’s B&F shifted the dynamic on Rioli. Our B&F is Friday? If so I’d like to revisit the discussion after that. For now though I agree with your take, but I suspect our B&F will make pick 25-7 (or whatever 20 ends at) seem untenable.

 

[Ugene41]

My guess is it’ll start with a 1. No idea what the second number will be. Here’s to me being wrong!

Happy to have a slab on it! Colin Young isn’t known for ****ing spiders

Yep let's bookmark and come back when the new contract extension is signed end of 2025

 

[Obese Arachnid]

With Robbo gone, someone has to take the mantle of perpetually pissed clown

I'm pissed off I missed out.

The old I'm over qualified excuse was given again.

 

[stormskye]

This is the trade thread. Let’s leave wright discussions elsewhere