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[Samsquanch]

No

No?

Hmmmm......

 

[The acurate one]

Is there anything new in this article? I can't read it due to the pay wall. If someone can post a summary or the article it will be appreciated.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/greg-miller-sacked-podcast-former-north-melbourne-chief-lifts-lid-on-nathan-buckley-trade-drama/news-story/eef43b6179850b1c7838644377b509a5

Certainly Sir I can do that for you.

• States North are not the biggest club going around
• Why should the rest of the AFL world suffer when there is better placed clubs to handle the occasion
• Then goes onto mention why do we raise money for sick kids when there's a lot more healthy children around who could do with some new toys.

Pretty much it.

 

[The acurate one]

To be honest I don't really give a fugg if we play Good Friday or not. Really, what does it matter? However, if they do take the game off us for under performing I assume they will apply the same principle if any other team with a marquee game underperforms a couple of times.

Yes we're underperforming but not enough to a get a PP though of course.

 

[Val Keating]

Yep:

That’s the bloke that always does the Bret Kirk meme I think. Funny bugger.

 

[Roosurgence]

Its really cheap, ham acting imo, not academy award worthy.

It should be a fine. The AFL really need to stamp out the staging, it’s an ugly look. Especially if they are going to clamp down on umpire respect, they need to understand that these acts need to be punished otherwise how do they expect players to react?

Weightman should have copped a fine as well for his backflip when slightly touched.

I wouldn’t even have an issue with suspension for acts like the Hawkins one. It would stamp it out pretty quickly if the player knew they were risking a games suspension to try and simulate for a free kick.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Psicosis]

Goldy still up there even though he is playing less game time in the ruck

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I wonder what the correlation is with our clearances declining in 2022 and Goldy spending less time in the ruck

 

[giantroo]

 

[archereleven]

The spin doctor has spoken

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[ferball]

The spin doctor has spoken

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I wish someone asked him if LT got a fair go from the umpires.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Kanga Glory]

If a players goes to pick his nose , then his in trouble.
This is going to scrutinised for any player hand movements when on the mark.

 

[ferball]

Nobody likes dissent these days do they....

 

[The acurate one]

Just sayin'

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Seriously, he’s got (new) career politician written all over him.

 

[Samsquanch]

Nobody likes dissent these days do they....

Oh come on mate! How can you say that???? It's a free world FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO I HAVE TO SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS?

 

[archereleven]

I wish someone asked him if LT got a fair go from the umpires.

Cough, ahem...

Lindsay was an aberration.

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[Kanga Glory]

Nobody likes dissent these days do they....

Players like Toby Greene, if you they get a bad decision they will find it hard to just stand there.
As brad Scott said ‘except the decision and move on’ - easy to say very hard to do

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Players like Toby Greene, if you they get a bad decision they will find it hard to just stand there.
As brad Scott said ‘except the decision and move on’ - easy to say very hard to do

I’d love to compile every dissenting reaction he ever made and play it back to him the smug campaigner.

 

[Lomas]

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Just sayin'

Yep, hands correctly kept in pockets.

 

[ferball]

Players like Toby Greene, if you hey get a bad decision they will find it hard to just stand there.
As brad Scott said ‘except the decision and move on’ - easy to say very hard to do

Looking at the ump and moving your arms is dissent! That's seriously ****ed up. Basically they're saying that expressing any emotion is no longer acceptable.

You know what - if they hold Selwood and co to that standard it might actually be okay. But as if....

 

[Intothewind]

If the rule is strictly no dissent, then nothing wrong with asking what the decision was for. Or expressing frustration. As long as you don't express a different opinion it's not dissent.
Should be able to train players how to question, query, berate themselves but not dissent.
But.. umps need to own up and be accountable when they make a clear mistake.

 

[teethmeetsflesh]

you don't just get given respect in life, you have to earn it. You don't deserve respect if you've shown to have made a mistake (perfectly fine, it happens) to only penalise the person bring it to your attention.

If they're going to be giving penalties for someone questioning a dubious free kick when a replay shows it is questionable then people (myself included) are going to switch off. The game has become a joke.

 

[Kanga Glory]

Looking at the ump and moving your arms is dissent! That's seriously f’ed up. Basically they're saying that expressing any emotion is no longer acceptable.

You know what - if they hold Selwood and co to that standard it might actually be okay. But as if....

I reckon you just laugh at them

 

[Samsquanch]

Players like Toby Greene, if you hey get a bad decision they will find it hard to just stand there.
As brad Scott said ‘except the decision and move on’ - easy to say very hard to do

I'm sure that scotts himself was a fine example.




I think that umpiring would be fairly difficult as they are at ground level, chasing a moving game and can easily be blindsided even though there are three of them on the ground at AFL level. The trouble is that they will "find" certain frees which are not there, miss others that clearly are there and there is so much inconsistency that anybody could be forgiven for being confused and ultimaely frustrated by the performances. On the weekend in the Geelong / Hawthorn game one kick went a distance that was less than the distance the kicker stood from the man on the mark and it was paid by the ump as a mark. If the kick travelled two body lengths I'd be surprised. That is just a joke. The free to porkins for his dive was deplorable. The umpire may not have seen that the geelong sonk launched himself, but equally, he could not have seen an infringement - he had to have assumed porkins was pushed. But on other occasions we hear the ump mention that they can't pay something they didn't see.

At the top level it would be well and truly worth having a video observer that can "assist" the on-field umps to minimise the errors and by doing so, there could be an improvement in respect in place of the carry on that happens today (by people like me I admit).

I'm not saying a full review with requisite stoppages, but the umps presently already have 2-way communication - advice that the kick did not travel 15m or that the footscray player threw the ball would allow for the on-field ump to make correct calls more often than they do today.


Here is my alternative plan for umpires...

Every free kick they pay should be automatically reversed. By doing this there will still be errors but I'd argue there would be fewer than there are today.