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Probably need to start winning for that to happen.
Or, some sort of equitable solution is introduced that sees you play each team exactly the same amount of times over a period of years….
 

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Probably need to start winning for that to happen.

We're the only club who have to jump through hoops to get what any other club gets.

It'd be like telling someone they can have the First Home Owners grant.

But only if they get down to 5% bodyfat and learn juggle 4 bowling pins set on fire first.
 
We're the only club who have to jump through hoops to get what any other club gets.

It'd be like telling someone they can have the First Home Owners grant.

But only if they get down to 5% bodyfat and learn juggle 4 bowling pins set on fire first.

We now have GF and * twice at Marvel, Pies Marvel, actually a fairly good draw this year.
Only the eagles and Swans at Marvel. Swans crowd shoukld be ok as well.

Nothing to complain about, we've much bigger fish to fry currently.
 
We now have GF and * twice at Marvel, Pies Marvel, actually a fairly good draw this year.
Only the eagles and Swans at Marvel. Swans crowd shoukld be ok as well.

Nothing to complain about, we've much bigger fish to fry currently.

Mate, we have the media attacking our GF fixture annually. A conveyor belt of 4 different opponents with no chance for both parties to settle in and build something.

Don't see any other "marquee" fixtures routinely attacked in this way.
 
Mate, we have the media attacking our GF fixture annually. A conveyor belt of 4 different opponents with no chance for both parties to settle in and build something.

Don't see any other "marquee" fixtures routinely attacked in this way.
F*cking infuriates me. Every other match like Blues v Tigers opening round, ANZAC Day, King's (Queen's) Birthday, Dreamtime etc. is so steeped in history and tradition it would be abhorrent to even consider giving another team a try but Good Friday, oh that's different, why should the Kangaroos have sole exclusivity every other team deserves a turn at Good Friday in fact why not give it to a marquee team like Collingwood or Richmond they'll show North how it's done.
 
You mean to say that a Saturday 1:45pm match against the 17th placed side (who are also from
Interstate mind you) from last season isn’t a great thing for the club?

Surely you jest..

Just thinking about this, does that mean a Saturday 10.45am start Perth time?

kids sport on, so TV numbers will be dismal as well.
 
Every other match like Blues v Tigers opening round, ANZAC Day, King's (Queen's) Birthday, Dreamtime etc. is so steeped in history and tradition it would be abhorrent to even consider giving another team a try but Good Friday, oh that's different
You are right, and the AFL and their conga-line of suck hole affiliated "reporters" toe the line but of course, none of those matches are traditional in any way. They have all just been claimed, mostly in just the last few years. Sheedy rabbited on about the ANZAC day tradition of Colliwood vs * but it was not traditional - just a made up piece of sheedy bullshyte. Those two teams were no more pioneers of ANZAC day footy than half the other clubs in the league.

If tradition counted then North owns Friday nights - it was North that took the risk and and paved the way for eventual Saturday night and other varied timeslots. The prosperity of the AFL off the back of massive media and sponsorship deals is in part due to the foresight of the team in royal blue and white from across the strip in Arden Street.

And don't get me started on the fixture - it is called that because it is purely and simply a FIX.
 
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F*cking infuriates me. Every other match like Blues v Tigers opening round, ANZAC Day, King's (Queen's) Birthday, Dreamtime etc. is so steeped in history and tradition it would be abhorrent to even consider giving another team a try but Good Friday, oh that's different, why should the Kangaroos have sole exclusivity every other team deserves a turn at Good Friday in fact why not give it to a marquee team like Collingwood or Richmond they'll show North how it's done.
It also took the AFL 20 years to let us play on Good Friday, but less than 20 months to add a second game on the day.
 

FL 2023: David Noble opens up on his suitability for coaching, painful exit from North Melbourne​

David Noble spent eight of the past 10 years in administration yet he was made senior coach of North Melbourne. So was he ever suitable for the head coaching role?

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Former North Melbourne coach David Noble has opened up on his “energising” switch from football into motorsport after the “very taxing” end to his coaching tenure at the Kangaroos.
Two months into his new role as the chief executive officer of Supercars team Dick Johnson Racing, Noble said he was relishing his new challenge as he conceded his skill set was better suited to sports administration than coaching.
Describing himself as a lifelong motorsport fan, Noble was appointed CEO of the top Ford V8 squad late last year, taking over the role from co-owner Ryan Story, who is stepping back from day-to-day operations.
Noble was a long-time football administrator at the Adelaide Crows and the Brisbane Lions before he took on the senior coaching role at the Kangaroos where he spent less than two seasons in charge in 2021 and 2022.
David Noble’s tenure as North Melbourne senior coach didn’t last long and he’s back in sports administration with Dick Johnson Racing. Picture: supplied.

David Noble’s tenure as North Melbourne senior coach didn’t last long and he’s back in sports administration with Dick Johnson Racing. Picture: supplied.
His short tenure at Arden St ended in July last year after just 38 games in charge.
Before his appointment at DJR, Noble was also part of the working committee charged with conducting the St Kilda football department review.
While he did hold discussions with AFL chief Gillon McLachlan and Andrew Dillon about the general manager of football role at league headquarters, Noble said he had been excited to pursue a new “direction” in his career.
“I have been a motorsport fan all my life,” Noble said.
“I was really open to sitting back and seeing what unfolded. I had a really terrific stint and owe footy a lot, it provided me and my family across the board.

“But I was very open minded to assess where my next direction was and an opportunity presented in another sport, which I felt really fitted the direction that I wanted to go - back into that senior executive role.
“I had one chat with Andrew Dillon and Gil in regards to the (AFL) GM role but I was already a fair way down the path with speaking to (DJR co-owners) Ryan and Brett (Ralph) by that time.
David Noble says he was more suited to administration roles than coaching. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images

David Noble says he was more suited to administration roles than coaching. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
“I have been extremely energised and happy and grateful to be given an opportunity at such an iconic brand.
“It has been really stimulating. It’s obviously a new sport, so it’s a new challenge.”
After his departure from football, Noble has jumped straight into the coalface at DJR just as the Supercars series launches into its new Gen3 era as teams race the clock to get cars ready for the start of the season in Newcastle.
Despite the detour from the coaches box to the pit lane garage, Noble felt there were plenty of similarities which had made his transition easier.
But he admitted he was better suited to a role as a sports administrator.
“I do, there is no doubt. It was a great opportunity (to coach in the AFL) and I will be grateful to North for giving me that opportunity,” Noble said.
“But I guess eight of my last 10 years was in that admin (area) from Adelaide to Brissy with a bit of study in between, so that is the direction where I think could help an organisation on a broader scale.
“So, it was nice to be able to move back into that stream of probably where I was heading to a couple of years ago.
“As it has turned out, there are many similarities with structure, departments and how things unfold in respect to a motorsport team and in regards to an AFL structure.”
Reflecting on the end of his coaching stint, Noble acknowledged it had not been a “pleasant” finish in football but he was now fully invested in a second life “passion”.
“It wasn’t pleasant, it’s not an enjoyable period to go through,” Noble said.
“It’s very taxing, but you take on those roles with an understanding that it unfortunately can get to that point.
“But I am now going to give this (DJR job) a good shake for a while.
“I think to be able to work in two passions in your life is really unusual. I have been able to spend a long period of time in one.
David Noble is looking forward to the prospect of watching his son John play for Collingwood as a dad rather than as an opposition coach. Picture: Michael Klein

David Noble is looking forward to the prospect of watching his son John play for Collingwood as a dad rather than as an opposition coach. Picture: Michael Klein
“Those that know me [know] I’ve got a couple of cars myself and I have a long interest and love of motorsport so to be able to work in a second one, I can see myself giving this a crack for a long while.”
Noble was also looking forward to now being able to watch his son, Magpie John, play without the concern of being on an opposition team.
“It’s funny I was saying to someone, ‘I will be able to get along to a game and watch as a dad without worrying what are they doing - is this the strategy I am looking at? Is it stoppages? What are they doing as a forward line?’,” Noble said.
“That will be nice to just go and be a parent, so I am looking forward to that.”
Noble wished his successor, Alastair Clarkson, success in his new role at North Melbourne.
“He is an experienced campaigner, I wish them all the best,” Noble said.

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“They were able to make steps forward and knowing some of those guys and the work they would be prepared to do, I’m sure they will make some steps forward.
“I wish them all the best for the coming season and beyond.”
 
Mate, we have the media attacking our GF fixture annually. A conveyor belt of 4 different opponents with no chance for both parties to settle in and build something.

Don't see any other "marquee" fixtures routinely attacked in this way.
Quite.

And yet our other annual fixture, Mother’s Day @ 1pm, flies completely under the radar.
 

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Bingo. The articles on this should be a lot clearer but they won't be.

Place us front and centre on all AFL affiliated advertising (via NAB, McDonalds etc). Give us prime viewing timeslots and less interstate travel.

Voila, more supporters and money.

I always mention it but remember the pig squealing from Collingwood when they copped a Sunday twilight and failed to pull a crowd so complained about it?
A Sunday night fixture against Carlton iirc. Eddie went full woe is Collingwood. If Collingwood had one of our fixtures of 21st century they'd be rioting.
 
Would like to see more nuance around our changed figures. Assume it's related to the redevelopment.
This was very much a Ben Amarfio project. He was furious about what we had been getting in comparison to that basketcase St.kilda in particular. Made it a mission to make sure we got properly compensated given our built in disadvantages from scumbag city hall
 

FL 2023: David Noble opens up on his suitability for coaching, painful exit from North Melbourne​

David Noble spent eight of the past 10 years in administration yet he was made senior coach of North Melbourne. So was he ever suitable for the head coaching role?

Rebecca WilliamsRebecca Williams
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4 min read
February 3, 2023 - 12:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom




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Thomas taking time away from Kangaroos

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Former North Melbourne coach David Noble has opened up on his “energising” switch from football into motorsport after the “very taxing” end to his coaching tenure at the Kangaroos.
Two months into his new role as the chief executive officer of Supercars team Dick Johnson Racing, Noble said he was relishing his new challenge as he conceded his skill set was better suited to sports administration than coaching.
Describing himself as a lifelong motorsport fan, Noble was appointed CEO of the top Ford V8 squad late last year, taking over the role from co-owner Ryan Story, who is stepping back from day-to-day operations.
Noble was a long-time football administrator at the Adelaide Crows and the Brisbane Lions before he took on the senior coaching role at the Kangaroos where he spent less than two seasons in charge in 2021 and 2022.
David Noble’s tenure as North Melbourne senior coach didn’t last long and he’s back in sports administration with Dick Johnson Racing. Picture: supplied.

David Noble’s tenure as North Melbourne senior coach didn’t last long and he’s back in sports administration with Dick Johnson Racing. Picture: supplied.
His short tenure at Arden St ended in July last year after just 38 games in charge.
Before his appointment at DJR, Noble was also part of the working committee charged with conducting the St Kilda football department review.
While he did hold discussions with AFL chief Gillon McLachlan and Andrew Dillon about the general manager of football role at league headquarters, Noble said he had been excited to pursue a new “direction” in his career.
“I have been a motorsport fan all my life,” Noble said.
“I was really open to sitting back and seeing what unfolded. I had a really terrific stint and owe footy a lot, it provided me and my family across the board.

“But I was very open minded to assess where my next direction was and an opportunity presented in another sport, which I felt really fitted the direction that I wanted to go - back into that senior executive role.
“I had one chat with Andrew Dillon and Gil in regards to the (AFL) GM role but I was already a fair way down the path with speaking to (DJR co-owners) Ryan and Brett (Ralph) by that time.
David Noble says he was more suited to administration roles than coaching. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images

David Noble says he was more suited to administration roles than coaching. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
“I have been extremely energised and happy and grateful to be given an opportunity at such an iconic brand.
“It has been really stimulating. It’s obviously a new sport, so it’s a new challenge.”
After his departure from football, Noble has jumped straight into the coalface at DJR just as the Supercars series launches into its new Gen3 era as teams race the clock to get cars ready for the start of the season in Newcastle.
Despite the detour from the coaches box to the pit lane garage, Noble felt there were plenty of similarities which had made his transition easier.
But he admitted he was better suited to a role as a sports administrator.
“I do, there is no doubt. It was a great opportunity (to coach in the AFL) and I will be grateful to North for giving me that opportunity,” Noble said.
“But I guess eight of my last 10 years was in that admin (area) from Adelaide to Brissy with a bit of study in between, so that is the direction where I think could help an organisation on a broader scale.
“So, it was nice to be able to move back into that stream of probably where I was heading to a couple of years ago.
“As it has turned out, there are many similarities with structure, departments and how things unfold in respect to a motorsport team and in regards to an AFL structure.”
Reflecting on the end of his coaching stint, Noble acknowledged it had not been a “pleasant” finish in football but he was now fully invested in a second life “passion”.
“It wasn’t pleasant, it’s not an enjoyable period to go through,” Noble said.
“It’s very taxing, but you take on those roles with an understanding that it unfortunately can get to that point.
“But I am now going to give this (DJR job) a good shake for a while.
“I think to be able to work in two passions in your life is really unusual. I have been able to spend a long period of time in one.
David Noble is looking forward to the prospect of watching his son John play for Collingwood as a dad rather than as an opposition coach. Picture: Michael Klein

David Noble is looking forward to the prospect of watching his son John play for Collingwood as a dad rather than as an opposition coach. Picture: Michael Klein
“Those that know me [know] I’ve got a couple of cars myself and I have a long interest and love of motorsport so to be able to work in a second one, I can see myself giving this a crack for a long while.”
Noble was also looking forward to now being able to watch his son, Magpie John, play without the concern of being on an opposition team.
“It’s funny I was saying to someone, ‘I will be able to get along to a game and watch as a dad without worrying what are they doing - is this the strategy I am looking at? Is it stoppages? What are they doing as a forward line?’,” Noble said.
“That will be nice to just go and be a parent, so I am looking forward to that.”
Noble wished his successor, Alastair Clarkson, success in his new role at North Melbourne.
“He is an experienced campaigner, I wish them all the best,” Noble said.

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“They were able to make steps forward and knowing some of those guys and the work they would be prepared to do, I’m sure they will make some steps forward.
“I wish them all the best for the coming season and beyond.”

Class by Noble. So hard to marry up his external image with the inner scrote goings on
 
Or, some sort of equitable solution is introduced that sees you play each team exactly the same amount of times over a period of years….
Have been saying this for years, it’s the only way to ‘equalise’ the fixture. I would also even up Friday night games, ‘blockbuster’ matches, Sunday twilight matches and playing at Geelong 😉
 
Mate, we have the media attacking our GF fixture annually. A conveyor belt of 4 different opponents with no chance for both parties to settle in and build something.

Don't see any other "marquee" fixtures routinely attacked in this way.

Yeah so what mate, may sound blunt but **** me, since when has a man of your intelligence ever listed or cared about the opinions of people that don't matter.

The only thing that is important is we still have the fixture. It is unfortunate that it is a new fixture and not yet cemented and came about during some really dark days on the field.


Josh Bruce 10.2 .62 def North Melb 5.9. 39

Did much better the following year only losing by 68 points.

Think * also belted us. As did the Saints, but could be wrong.


It will settle soon enough, I'm also of the opinion it should be either the Saints or Bullies. Not Carl or *. Fairly weak putting Carlton in there.
A BS easy fix

oh well
 
Yeah so what mate, may sound blunt but * me, since when has a man of your intelligence ever listed or cared about the opinions of people that don't matter.

The only thing that is important is we still have the fixture. It is unfortunate that it is a new fixture and not yet cemented and came about during some really dark days on the field.


Josh Bruce 10.2 .62 def North Melb 5.9. 39

Did much better the following year only losing by 68 points.

Think * also belted us. As did the Saints, but could be wrong.


It will settle soon enough, I'm also of the opinion it should be either the Saints or Bullies. Not Carl or *. Fairly weak putting Carlton in there.
A BS easy fix

oh well
I though Carlton make sense from a geographical proximity to the RCH sense. Also our home game and kinda guarantees a good crowd/gate takings.
 
Yeah so what mate, may sound blunt but * me, since when has a man of your intelligence ever listed or cared about the opinions of people that don't matter.

The only thing that is important is we still have the fixture. It is unfortunate that it is a new fixture and not yet cemented and came about during some really dark days on the field.


Josh Bruce 10.2 .62 def North Melb 5.9. 39

Did much better the following year only losing by 68 points.

Think * also belted us. As did the Saints, but could be wrong.


It will settle soon enough, I'm also of the opinion it should be either the Saints or Bullies. Not Carl or *. Fairly weak putting Carlton in there.
A BS easy fix

oh well

Lol turn it up, AFL tables..
 
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