Opinion Commentary & Media VIII

[Dan]

 

[shinboner magic]

Stick to trying to win games of football NMFC. It’s by far the most important thing the club needs to do. Focus 1000% on that.

Another bottom 2 finish won’t sit well with a lot of fans, despite being “inclusive” and promoting “equality” and making Arden St a “safe place”.

Win games of footy. That’s all most fans care about.

Yeah if that happens your can come back to the Australia Day posts

 

[WesternRoo]

No ... I'm saying the failure to get those aircraft leased in the light of the advice given and conditions on the East Coast at the time was an abysmal failure and worse than anything Albanese has done.

Especially because it was done on the basis of trying to virtue signal that climate change wasn't real. He ignored the advice of experts because he wanted to appeal to people who were wrong (ie factually incorrect) about something else and was scared that listening to those experts might send "the wrong" (ie factually correct) message to the rest of the population about that something else. As a result he made the worst natural disaster in Australian history worse than it needed to be.

That set of stupid decision making on its own is enough to make Scummo the worst PM we've had since Howard.

Out of curiosity, why did you go back to Howard when we have had some absolute stinkers on both sides in between?

Anyway, I’ve probably gone too far into the politics than what I intended anyway.

 

[DuckYeah]

No body’s forcing you to do anything other than be a normal compassionate human being.

Why do we have to be compassionate?

 

[DuckYeah]

Not that Isaac campaigner. He is the least funny campaigner in Australia. Anyone who listens or laughs at that campaigner needs a swift kick up the arse

 

[Groucho]

Not that Isaac campaigner. He is the least funny campaigner in Australia. Anyone who listens or laughs at that campaigner needs a swift kick up the arse

He’s a fwit

 

[muttley45]

What are these rumblings that suddenly the new roofed stadium in Tassie isn't such a shoo in any more ?

 

[DuckYeah]

What are these rumblings that suddenly the new roofed stadium in Tassie isn't such a shoo in any more ?

Gonna be a hell hole to play in. You’ll need a team of thick skinned tough bastards to play every second week in frosty windy tassie conditions and there arent that many playing AFL.. the stadium needs a roof

 

[Samsquanch]

What are these rumblings that suddenly the new roofed stadium in Tassie isn't such a shoo in any more ?

Insurance estimate has tripled since Owens signed the extension of his contract with the Hobart Hurricanes.

 

[Only Forwards]

What are these rumblings that suddenly the new roofed stadium in Tassie isn't such a shoo in any more ?

I don't know any of the recent things but I have always thought it would face levels of opposition because:

the current population of Tasmania is 571200.

The current population of Hobart is 218000

The cost of the stadium (at it's cheapest) $775 Million (in reality it is probably going to be this + 50%)

If you work the cost out over all Tasmania it equals $1356 per person.

If you work it out just on Hobart it equals $3555 Per person.

There are only 5 federal seats in the whole of Tasmania.

long story short, It is an exceptional amount of investment for very few enduring jobs (post construction) for a small population that is not politically significant.

It may get built, it'll face hurdles all the way until it is.

It is an incredibly high barrier for entry that the AFL have set.

 

[danj]

I don't know any of the recent things but I have always thought it would face levels of opposition because:

the current population of Tasmania is 571200.

The current population of Hobart is 218000

The cost of the stadium (at it's cheapest) $775 Million (in reality it is probably going to be this + 50%)

If you work the cost out over all Tasmania it equals $1356 per person.

If you work it out just on Hobart it equals $3555 Per person.

There are only 5 federal seats in the whole of Tasmania.

long story short, It is an exceptional amount of investment for very few enduring jobs (post construction) for a small population that is not politically significant.

It may get built, it'll face hurdles all the way until it is.

It is an incredibly high barrier for entry that the AFL have set.

Spot on; and then there’s the appalling state of Tasmania’s health care system and a high proportion of the population being in the low socioeconomic bracket who need better welfare and housing support. This stadium could yet turn out to be the AFLs Eldorado

 

[Ether]

I don't know any of the recent things but I have always thought it would face levels of opposition because:

the current population of Tasmania is 571200.

The current population of Hobart is 218000

The cost of the stadium (at it's cheapest) $775 Million (in reality it is probably going to be this + 50%)

If you work the cost out over all Tasmania it equals $1356 per person.

If you work it out just on Hobart it equals $3555 Per person.

There are only 5 federal seats in the whole of Tasmania.

long story short, It is an exceptional amount of investment for very few enduring jobs (post construction) for a small population that is not politically significant.

It may get built, it'll face hurdles all the way until it is.

It is an incredibly high barrier for entry that the AFL have set.

Each state has 12 senate seats, so they're disproportionately significant.

 

[perplexed]

Each state has 12 senate seats, so they're disproportionately significant.

Yep. Tassie senators regularly hold the keys to power in the upper house and this is a classic bread and circuses project.

 

[DuckYeah]

strip bonuses from AFL big wigs to assist the funding. They dont need those ridiculous sums of money

 

[DuckYeah]

Why cant the Tas team play between blundstone and UTaS?

 

[Makeshift Park]

If it does get done, I imagine the costs will be split between state and federal governments as well as private equity.

 

[hilly]

The 'comedian' who is entirely reliant on OTT lefties.

 

[Frank Thring]

Out of curiosity, why did you go back to Howard when we have had some absolute stinkers on both sides in between?

Anyway, I’ve probably gone too far into the politics than what I intended anyway.

We only need to go back to Albo, an absolute joke of a PM

 

[Only Forwards]

Each state has 12 senate seats, so they're disproportionately significant.

OK.

Still a pretty big price tag for senate votes.

will be interesting to see whether either party stumps up more cash through their election promises.

I honestly think that the barrier to entry was set so high because they don't want 19 teams, they want 18 teams and not being able to get a stadium up would create an impetus for Tasmania to take a relocated team.

Might be a bit tinfoil hat but I can see that as a play here.

 

[Only Forwards]

strip bonuses from AFL big wigs to assist the funding. They dont need those ridiculous sums of money

drop in the ocean compared to the volume of money required to build a stadium.

Why cant the Tas team play between blundstone and UTaS?

Who knows.

I don't see why pumping $100m into each ground to upgrade them both wasn't the go to plan, it is significantly more affordable and feasible.

The reason I come back to is the AFL wanting a barrier to entry so high that they can use the failure to meet it as leverage.

 

[DuckYeah]

drop in the ocean compared to the volume of money required to build a stadium.

Not really. Im not talking one year. Im talking until its paid off and permanent moving forward. No CEO deserves a bonus.

 

[DuckYeah]

The 'comedian' who is entirely reliant on OTT lefties.

Until one lefty owns him. He was rather upset after Tanuki takedowns.

 

[ferball]

Out of curiosity, why did you go back to Howard when we have had some absolute stinkers on both sides in between?

Anyway, I’ve probably gone too far into the politics than what I intended anyway.

Because he had the opportunity to set the country up for decades and failed miserably. I don't have time for any politicians really. The only good thing about Little Johnny was that we won flags when he was in power.

 

[The Dingrel]

How about December 3rd? Eureka Stockade?

Hear me out, when miners of all backgrounds European, Asian, Indigenous, and all other cultures made a stand against the tyranny of the police at the time as mates back in 1854.

Given that Australia is such a multicultural country and our matesmanship. January 26th also wasn't the birth of a nation either.

I like it Hatchy, ultimately hugely influential on creating democratic rights, celebrates the southern cross, and sticking it to the "man".....ultimately a celebration of our egalitarian society, and multi culturalism.

 

[DuckYeah]

Because he had the opportunity to set the country up for decades and failed miserably. I don't have time for any politicians really. The only good thing about Little Johnny was that we won flags when he was in power.

Strict gun Laws are a win, the rest of it was pox