Complaints about the Royal Rumble and the way WWE is going

[Stafford678]

# 1. The use of Booker T. He is the US champion that is the 2nd best belt on smackdown , Booker has been injured lately so im assuming thats why he only lasted about 10 seconds in the rumble but that brings the point to me , why put him in the rumble if he isnt fit. What does it say about the United States title that its champion comes into the rumble and gets thrown out seconds later while people like Matt Hardy, Masters etc last a lot longer? If he wasnt fit why put him in there, the least they could have done was put him in at number 30, have Ortan come out where Booker did then have Ortan get eliminated then ask for that favour off Booker and take his spot.

#2- Same Story kind of but this time IC champion Ric Flair, the guy is old why bother with him as IC champion he was one of the first people eliminated in the rumble aswell so what does that say about the championship aswell, surely they could get some brains and give the title to Shelton, hell give it to Masters or Carlito even, they are young and have an upside, or the WWE could actually use Kane and the Big Show properly since they basicly are jobbers to the main eventers get them into the IC title mix.

#3. Rey winning the rumble. I don't have a lot against Rey but that was the worst rumble i have seen, why is he dedicating all this to eddie, if anyone was to do that Chavito is the man in my eyes, Rey's win doesnt have much credibility as a lot of people think he has gotten it by riding the eddie wave. Much rather see Rey win it off his own back without having to use Eddie's name etc and also Winning from number 2 come on we have seen this too many times now with hbk, vince, beniot come to mind which raises my next complaint.

#4. The undertaker, how lazy is this guy, he was at the rumble now why wasnt he in a match, Booker t wasnt fit so they should have just chucked Goldust in Bookers Spot have Ortan come in at 29 and The undertaker at 30, The undertaker comes in cleans house throws ortan, hhh, rey, rvd, carlito over the ropes and wins, From all the rumble's ive seen i don't think ive seen the 30th entrant actually come in and dominate and win the match, they 30 is the best spot so why not make it believble instead of allways having the starting 2 last a long time. This could have saved us from having to see Mark Henry main event a match which should never ever take place ever again

#5 Kane and Big Show - 2 of the biggest blokes in the company and they just get thrown out at the start, they are supposedly industructable and are called "monsters" yet they get treated like babys

#6. Cena winning the belt , why why why why do we havta suffer such pain, worst champion EVER, and Edge has been on a roll and has actually made Raw worth watching , everybody is sick of this wanna be gangster/rapper come out and spin a few rhymes about the champ is here, Not interested in seeing Cena vs anyone at wrestlemania. Another gripe i can add here too is Mark Henry , he just walks right back in to a title shot when he comes back, no one wants to see henry main event, the match could so easily have been beniot vs angle, ortan vs angle, Rey vs Angle etc and just put henry into one of their spots for the rumble, the rumble was allready week no matter what .

And my final gripe, J.B.L. he was built up to me this cheating/lucky champion who somhow beat the undertaker, booker t, eddie and cena throughout his title reign and now just drops back off the face of the earth and is jobbing to the new comer, smackdown need all the top line people it can get and while you wouldn't call him a top line superstar his gimmick made him the top heel at smackdown and IMO he should be 2nd heel behind Ortan which now looks like Henry has.

 

[synista]

Top post. Agree with pretty much everything you said there.

 

[Cleavy]

Agree with pretty much all of that. But regarding the secondary singles titles (IC & US), they mean jack******** these days...

The undertaker, how lazy is this guy, he was at the rumble now why wasnt he in a match

The Undertaker is smarter than the rest of us. Bypasses not only the battle royal to become champion, and also the Royal Rumble, does his "little special effects" and angles (pardon the pun) himself into prime position for a title shot.

 

[Hotel 6]

Nice post Stafford.

It is interesting how the WWE is booking at the moment. I feel so bad for JBL in that he held Smackdown together as a great heel for 10 months and then has been shafted for the last month or so. I reckon they would have had him job to Lashley as well but instead the Boogeyman interferes in the match and Lashley wins. To get beaten by a pump handle slam from the BM when you have won matches after receiving beatings from all the main guys on Smackdown is just crap. I watched the Rumble with 5 10 year old boys (last day of school holidays in Victoria) and they loved it all. So I suppose who is the WWE catering for, a 35 year old bloke (like me) or my 10 year old son and his mates???

I agree with you in that Booker T should not have been in the match unless it was to promote a feud with either Randy Orton or the next challenger for the belt.

The use of Flair is interesting in that he is yet to feud with anyone since he won the belt except for HHH and that wasn't for the belt. I fail to see why HHH would eliminate Flair when the Rumble could have been used to start a new feud with Flair (you know, a promo on Raw that says "I eliminated Ric Flair and I deserve a title shot etc etc).

It would be interesting to see what number the winner of the rumble has drawn over the years. It would seem that a pick from 4 - 25 is as good as a kiss of death (Did Flair win it from 3 when he won it??)

Cena was always going to get the title back from Edge but at least he got the title for the money in the bank match he won at 'Mania.

It was interseting to see Kane and BigShow be responsible for their demise, I think this sets up a match for the two of them at WM22

 

[Sheeds]

Agree with pretty much all of that. But regarding the secondary singles titles (IC & US), they mean jack******** these days...

Which is sad.

Both belts have such great pedigree, they should certainly mean more when you look at their respective histories.

 

[Hitman]

*Yawn*

Stop your ********ing bitching, ********ing hell.

There was nothing wrong with Rey winning and there was nothing wrong with the RUmble itself. I dont see what people are ********ing bitching about

Cena is the best person to hold the belt on Raw, I mean god, who else is there?

HBK- Wants a break
HHH- ******** OFF
Edge- Dump the ho and get some damn credibility
Big Show- What a joke he is

Come on who else?

 

[HurricaneHazza]

*Yawn*

Stop your ********ing bitching, ********ing hell.

There was nothing wrong with Rey winning and there was nothing wrong with the RUmble itself. I dont see what people are ********ing bitching about

Cena is the best person to hold the belt on Raw, I mean god, who else is there?

HBK- Wants a break
HHH- ******** OFF
Edge- Dump the ho and get some damn credibility
Big Show- What a joke he is

Come on who else?

lol.. you dun watch much wrestling.. or you either dun have a wrestling brain.

 

[- PC -]

# 1. The use of Booker T. He is the US champion that is the 2nd best belt on smackdown , Booker has been injured lately so im assuming thats why he only lasted about 10 seconds in the rumble but that brings the point to me , why put him in the rumble if he isnt fit.

Because they keep sacking people and dont have enough numbers

What does it say about the United States title that its champion comes into the rumble and gets thrown out seconds later while people like Matt Hardy,
Masters etc last a lot longer? If he wasnt fit why put him in there, the least they could have done was put him in at number 30, have Ortan come out where Booker did then have Ortan get eliminated then ask for that favour off Booker and take his spot.

Yeh would have worked except..... MYSTERIO WAS BOOKED TO WIN

#2- Same Story kind of but this time IC champion Ric Flair, the guy is old why bother with him as IC champion he was one of the first people eliminated in the rumble aswell so what does that say about the championship aswell, surely they could get some brains and give the title to Shelton,

Who cares when he gets eliminated. I believe the Shelton/Flair angle will be the WM22 title change

#3. Rey winning the rumble. I don't have a lot against Rey but that was the worst rumble i have seen, why is he dedicating all this to eddie, if anyone was to do that Chavito is the man in my eyes, Rey's win doesnt have much credibility as a lot of people think he has gotten it by riding the eddie wave. Much rather see Rey win it off his own back without having to use Eddie's name etc and also Winning from number 2 come on we have seen this too many times now with hbk, vince, beniot come to mind which raises my next complaint.

Rey was spoken of as a HWC before Eddie died. They teased it with matches against JBL early last year. Yes it seems they are pushing Rey in Eddies place but believe me as closely related as Chavo is to eddie he doesnt have half the ring skill that Eddie OR Rey has

#4. The undertaker, how lazy is this guy, he was at the rumble now why wasnt he in a match, Booker t wasnt fit so they should have just chucked Goldust in Bookers Spot have Ortan come in at 29 and The undertaker at 30, The undertaker comes in cleans house throws ortan, hhh, rey, rvd, carlito over the ropes and wins,

Make your mind up. Did you want Booker Orton or UT to win? Up there you laid out a good scenario , now you want it changed? Make up your mind

From all the rumble's ive seen i don't think ive seen the 30th entrant actually come in and dominate and win the match, they 30 is the best spot so why not make it believble instead of allways having the starting 2 last a long time. This could have saved us from having to see Mark Henry main event a match which should never ever take place ever again

The 30th entrant is meant to be the person you hate to see at number 30. And seeing him go down is justice for him actually getting the number 30

#5 Kane and Big Show - 2 of the biggest blokes in the company and they just get thrown out at the start, they are supposedly industructable and are called "monsters" yet they get treated like babys

Yep could have lasted a lot longer and cleaned the ring a bit, dont know why they did it this way

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6. Cena winning the belt , why why why why do we havta suffer such pain, worst champion EVER, and Edge has been on a roll and has actually made Raw worth watching , everybody is sick of this wanna be gangster/rapper come out and spin a few rhymes about the champ is here, Not interested in seeing Cena vs anyone at wrestlemania.

Yep I thought it would be better to have Cena chase a bit longer... go figure. Maybe Edge is the new Jericho

Another gripe i can add here too is Mark Henry , he just walks right back in to a title shot when he comes back, no one wants to see henry main event, the match could so easily have been beniot vs angle, ortan vs angle, Rey vs Angle etc and just put henry into one of their spots for the rumble, the rumble was allready week no matter what .

Oh so Lesnar V Holly wasnt as ghey?Jobbers get put into matches to build wrestlers. This was meant to be a Batista Henry match remember? This was meant to give Batista the monster push that declared ''I am the animal'' his injury meant Angle took over his feud. Henry will not be seen again. Promise

And my final gripe, J.B.L. he was built up to me this cheating/lucky champion who somhow beat the undertaker, booker t, eddie and cena throughout his title reign and now just drops back off the face of the earth and is jobbing to the new comer, smackdown need all the top line people it can get and while you wouldn't call him a top line superstar his gimmick made him the top heel at smackdown and IMO he should be 2nd heel behind Ortan which now looks like Henry has.

JBL is also a snivelling coward (character) and he is meant to be grossed out and plain scared to fight the freaks. It also gives the Boogeyman a huge notch on his belt and doesnt hurt JBL one bit

 

[HurricaneHazza]

JBL didn't deserved to get SQUASHED by an untalented worm eater.

 

[- PC -]

It would be interesting to see what number the winner of the rumble has drawn over the years. It would seem that a pick from 4 - 25 is as good as a kiss of death (Did Flair win it from 3 when he won it??)

try this page hotel, gives all the rumble results up to last year and click on for eliminations etc

 

[Hitman]

lol.. you dun watch much wrestling.. or you either dun have a wrestling brain.

Oh really, why do you think that?

 

[Hotel 6]

try this page hotel, gives all the rumble results up to last year and click on for eliminations etc

Thanks PC. A great link with all the info on the rumble that anyone could want. BTW Flair did win it from 3.

 

[Rusty Brookes]

I didn't even order the Rumble - first one I've missed in years and I couldn't care less. Great post Stafford. Don't even get me started on stuff like the Spirit Squad. The only thing keeping me interested as a wrestling fan at the moment is the WWE DVDs. Although the ring work has come a long way (well in the case of guys like Angle, Michaels, Mysterio) the overall product pales into significance compared to the 80s. It seems that every wrestler had a place and purpose in the 80s WWF: these days it just seems to be a mess. The titles change hands more times than I change underpants, horrible comedy angles seem to be the norm, the acting in the skits is beyond terrible, very few workers can cut a good promo, the tag team division stinks. Great workers like Shelton Benjamin are buried while stiffs like Chris Masters are in main events. If TNA was shown here, I'd stop watching WWE altogether bar the odd Kurt Angle match.

 

[Mr Magoo]

# 1. The use of Booker T. He is the US champion that is the 2nd best belt on smackdown , Booker has been injured lately so im assuming thats why he only lasted about 10 seconds in the rumble but that brings the point to me , why put him in the rumble if he isnt fit. What does it say about the United States title that its champion comes into the rumble and gets thrown out seconds later while people like Matt Hardy, Masters etc last a lot longer? If he wasnt fit why put him in there, the least they could have done was put him in at number 30, have Ortan come out where Booker did then have Ortan get eliminated then ask for that favour off Booker and take his spot.

#2- Same Story kind of but this time IC champion Ric Flair, the guy is old why bother with him as IC champion he was one of the first people eliminated in the rumble aswell so what does that say about the championship aswell, surely they could get some brains and give the title to Shelton, hell give it to Masters or Carlito even, they are young and have an upside, or the WWE could actually use Kane and the Big Show properly since they basicly are jobbers to the main eventers get them into the IC title mix.

#3. Rey winning the rumble. I don't have a lot against Rey but that was the worst rumble i have seen, why is he dedicating all this to eddie, if anyone was to do that Chavito is the man in my eyes, Rey's win doesnt have much credibility as a lot of people think he has gotten it by riding the eddie wave. Much rather see Rey win it off his own back without having to use Eddie's name etc and also Winning from number 2 come on we have seen this too many times now with hbk, vince, beniot come to mind which raises my next complaint.

#4. The undertaker, how lazy is this guy, he was at the rumble now why wasnt he in a match, Booker t wasnt fit so they should have just chucked Goldust in Bookers Spot have Ortan come in at 29 and The undertaker at 30, The undertaker comes in cleans house throws ortan, hhh, rey, rvd, carlito over the ropes and wins, From all the rumble's ive seen i don't think ive seen the 30th entrant actually come in and dominate and win the match, they 30 is the best spot so why not make it believble instead of allways having the starting 2 last a long time. This could have saved us from having to see Mark Henry main event a match which should never ever take place ever again

#5 Kane and Big Show - 2 of the biggest blokes in the company and they just get thrown out at the start, they are supposedly industructable and are called "monsters" yet they get treated like babys

#6. Cena winning the belt , why why why why do we havta suffer such pain, worst champion EVER, and Edge has been on a roll and has actually made Raw worth watching , everybody is sick of this wanna be gangster/rapper come out and spin a few rhymes about the champ is here, Not interested in seeing Cena vs anyone at wrestlemania. Another gripe i can add here too is Mark Henry , he just walks right back in to a title shot when he comes back, no one wants to see henry main event, the match could so easily have been beniot vs angle, ortan vs angle, Rey vs Angle etc and just put henry into one of their spots for the rumble, the rumble was allready week no matter what .

And my final gripe, J.B.L. he was built up to me this cheating/lucky champion who somhow beat the undertaker, booker t, eddie and cena throughout his title reign and now just drops back off the face of the earth and is jobbing to the new comer, smackdown need all the top line people it can get and while you wouldn't call him a top line superstar his gimmick made him the top heel at smackdown and IMO he should be 2nd heel behind Ortan which now looks like Henry has.

There is conflict internally regarding the decision to take the title off Edge and back on to Cena. Basically it's Hunter & Steph vs the rest of creative. The numbers speak for themselves with RAW ratings increasing the past month, culminating in the Edge vs Flair TLC match on RAW two weeks ago being the most watched match on Raw in over a year.

The creative team sees this as a positive and went to bat for Edge to remain champion. HHH & Steph nixed that, claiming that Cena was getting poor reactions as champion due to Kurt Angle not playing his role as a heel to full effect. HHH is now entering a program with Cena, with HHH vs Cena for the WWE title scheduled internally for John Cena.
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Credit Wrestling observer

That takes care of why Cena's the champ not because Stone Cold said so but because HHH said so. With regards to Cena it's not his fault that he only has about 6 wrestling moves is it & that he doesn't sell other wrestlers moves very well if at all. Now i can really see why Billy Gunn spoke about Hunter the way he did on that shoot video.

Kurt Angle is wrestling injured at the moment but at least he has gotten back together with his wife now if he just would take a little time off as their is no doubt he needs it to rest his injured back & neck. And it's a good move putting Angle in a match with taker as his work load will drop off until the ppv as imo most of the build up to no way out will be promo's between the two.

With regards to Rey Mysterio storyline i wish it was a joke & it's only going to get worse unless Rey or Chavo put their foot down & say 'NO MORE' to Vince or the writers. If Rey goes on to Mania and wins the belt people will look back at this push and say, "it was just cause Eddie died" instead of saying that he was a talented worker who was super over and earned it.

 

[Ray Nolan]

There is conflict internally regarding the decision to take the title off Edge and back on to Cena. Basically it's Hunter & Steph vs the rest of creative. The numbers speak for themselves with RAW ratings increasing the past month, culminating in the Edge vs Flair TLC match on RAW two weeks ago being the most watched match on Raw in over a year.

The creative team sees this as a positive and went to bat for Edge to remain champion. HHH & Steph nixed that, claiming that Cena was getting poor reactions as champion due to Kurt Angle not playing his role as a heel to full effect. HHH is now entering a program with Cena, with HHH vs Cena for the WWE title scheduled internally for John Cena.
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Credit Wrestling observer

Well this comes as no surprise. We all know that Cena is Steph's blue-eyed little boy given that she picked him out to be a future star and used SmackDown! to push him. The Game has never rated Edge & it's no surprise he sided with Steph.

I think Edge could've really done well as Champion up to WM22 - The "Rated R Superstar" gimmick was getting traction, the viewers were coming back to Raw and I think a fued between Edge v Triple H would've been a much more attractive proposition going to WM22.

Now by fueding with The Game they can get the cheers happening again for Cena from the little kiddies. However, I think they'll find that older fans will back The Game and keep booing Cena to make the point that they don't buy the Chump as the Champ. I'm no fan of The Game but I'd happily cheer for him and boo Cena because I want something that is believable.

As for the "Angle not playing the heel" properly - that's bull. Kurt did everything he could from teaming up with Eric Bischoff, to slagging US Troops and none of it worked because he is so over with the older fans. That and the fact that he was wrestling someone like Cena also was a major factor.

So, it looks like Cena v Triple H at WM22. Fingers crossed that Angle v Mysterio goes ahead because it will need a Main Event of that calibre to save us from that dross.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Well said Ray Nolan! Cena is just a rubbish wrestler and Angle did everything he could to get Cena over, but normal wrestling fans can see that Cena sucks!

 

[Hitman]

********ing hell, will fans ever be happy?

The Rock couldnt wrestle, but he was over and everyone loved him
Austin couldnt wrestle either

Yet you all hate Cena

Edge was a ******** champion, you cant take him seriously especially with the Ho by his side

HHH v Cena will be a great match, but you ********ing morons will bag the crap out of it anyway and I am sure should Cena win then you will call WM the ********test PPV of all time like you seem to do every time Cena retains

 

[Sheeds]

********ing hell, will fans ever be happy?

The Rock couldnt wrestle, but he was over and everyone loved him
Austin couldnt wrestle either

Yet you all hate Cena

Edge was a ******** champion, you cant take him seriously especially with the Ho by his side

HHH v Cena will be a great match, but you ********ing morons will bag the crap out of it anyway and I am sure should Cena win then you will call WM the ********test PPV of all time like you seem to do every time Cena retains

Im afraid you have no idea.

 

[Hitman]

Im afraid you have no idea.

No, the morons bagging Cena and the Rumble have no idea

 

[Hitman]

Im afraid you have no idea.

No, the morons bagging Cena and the Rumble have no idea

 

[Kahuna]

Cena is not a ******** wrestler he is quite sound it is just his gimmick which keeps him from showing his talent.

 

[Kapow!!!]

*Yawn*

Stop your ********ing bitching, ********ing hell.

There was nothing wrong with Rey winning and there was nothing wrong with the RUmble itself. I dont see what people are ********ing bitching about

Cena is the best person to hold the belt on Raw, I mean god, who else is there?

HBK- Wants a break
HHH- ******** OFF
Edge- Dump the ho and get some damn credibility
Big Show- What a joke he is

Come on who else?

All of the rest except for the bold isn't credbile. Your point with Edge though is true. He does need to get rid of Lita before he can be full Main Event material.

 

[Doggies422]

Austin couldnt wrestle either

You sir, are an idiot. Austin rocked, plain and simple. He wasn't just a brawler, he was a sound technical wrestler.

 

[Hitman]

You sir, are an idiot. Austin rocked, plain and simple. He wasn't just a brawler, he was a sound technical wrestler.

Punch, punch, punch, finger, kick, stunner

The normal Austin moveset, and people complain Cena only has 6 moves

 

[Cleavy]

Punch, punch, punch, finger, kick, stunner

The normal Austin moveset,

lou thesz press, spinebuster (every WWE wrestler seems to use it these days), million $ dream (not that he used that often).

and people complain Cena only has 6 moves

it's still about 3 more than Kevin Nash