Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.

[OneGreatClub]

For those playing along at home, I went for my swab and it looks like I may have pneumonia as there is no air entry in my lower right lung. I have been started on Antibiotics and am going to have a chest X-ray after I have been cleared from Covid

Oh gee. Hope you improve soon

 

[MrMeaner]

For those playing along at home, I went for my swab and it looks like I may have pneumonia as there is no air entry in my lower right lung. I have been started on Antibiotics and am going to have a chest X-ray after I have been cleared from Covid

Good luck. My partner had pneumonia just before Christmas. It was a bit shit.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[Schulzenfest]

Add if we going to hold them up to the gold standard for you lot which is Obama/Biden they are gonna need a shitload of more infections to get to 62 million infected in the USA for Swine Flu.

Yes, all us bleeding heart left leaning Australians famously love Joe 'slightly to the right of Peter Dutton' Biden.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

As bad as what the outbreak is in Victoria, the last 3 weeks they have not recorded 1% of tests producing positive case.

It has doubled the last week or so from around 0.35% to 0.70%-0.75% partly because there have been 2 or 3 record testing days but when the tests have dropped to around 20k like the previous 2 weeks there have been 0.70% days.

What the bloody hell would would Dan Andrews be saying if it produced 45% positives like in New York 10 weeks ago and like the 30% like some Euro cities had and other places in the world that are reporting about 15%+ positives at the moment.

 

[pastmyprimus]

This is an article (behind a paywall) about research conducted by the King's College in London (not peer reviewed yet) which found that immunity to covid-19 among those who have recovered from the infection may only last for a few months. These findings have been backed-up by researchers in Munich.

Scientists from King's College London analysed 90 patients and healthcare workers at Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Trust and found the level of antibodies in the immune system of those who had contracted the virus peaked just three weeks after they showed symptoms.

In the first longitudinal study of its kind, 60 per cent of participants were found to have a "potent" antibody response while in the throes of the virus, but this fell to just 17 per cent after three months. Levels of antibodies depleted by as much as 23-fold in the three-month period after infection and in some people became undetectable.

Researchers in Munich similarly found that those who have recovered could be vulnerable to a second infection. Tests conducted at the Schwabing Clinic on recovered patients demonstrated that the level of antibodies produced by the immune system dropped significantly in a majority of cases.

New research casts doubt on coronavirus immunity

Experts also warn on heart damage, while a top health official says the virus can linger in the air for an hour.

www.theage.com.au

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This is an article (behind a paywall) about research conducted by the King's College in London (not peer reviewed yet) which found that immunity to covid-19 among those who have recovered from the infection may only last for a few months. These findings have been backed-up by researchers in Munich.

Scientists from King's College London analysed 90 patients and healthcare workers at Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Trust and found the level of antibodies in the immune system of those who had contracted the virus peaked just three weeks after they showed symptoms.

In the first longitudinal study of its kind, 60 per cent of participants were found to have a "potent" antibody response while in the throes of the virus, but this fell to just 17 per cent after three months. Levels of antibodies depleted by as much as 23-fold in the three-month period after infection and in some people became undetectable.

Researchers in Munich similarly found that those who have recovered could be vulnerable to a second infection. Tests conducted at the Schwabing Clinic on recovered patients demonstrated that the level of antibodies produced by the immune system dropped significantly in a majority of cases.

New research casts doubt on coronavirus immunity

Experts also warn on heart damage, while a top health official says the virus can linger in the air for an hour.

www.theage.com.au

Do they know what antibodies they are testing?

About 8-10 weeks ago I saw a PBS Newshour story that said a dozen anti-body tests that were assessed at UC Berkeley and all all failed, and an article shortly after that, think a science journal, Wired maybe, said they don't know what antibodies the body is actually producing to fight covid and that the medical authorities were guessing a bit.

Those Berkley studies I reckon is why the health departments in Oz have stopped talking publicly about doing large number of Serology or Serologic tests to look for and find antibodies in your blood fighting covid. Spurrier talked a lot about them in early and mid May when SA had hit 14 days without a new case. But the talk has all stopped it seems.

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

As bad as what the outbreak is in Victoria, the last 3 weeks they have not recorded 1% of tests producing positive case.

It has doubled the last week or so from around 0.35% to 0.70%-0.75% partly because there have been 2 or 3 record testing days but when the tests have dropped to around 20k like the previous 2 weeks there have been 0.70% days.

What the bloody hell would would Dan Andrews be saying if it produced 45% positives like in New York 10 weeks ago and like the 30% like some Euro cities had and other places in the world that are reporting about 15%+ positives at the moment.

Today's result of 177 is actually a promising outcome for the Vics.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I guess it is harder than it looks. At least he didn't hang it off his chin or leave it over his eyes.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

For those playing along at home, I went for my swab and it looks like I may have pneumonia as there is no air entry in my lower right lung. I have been started on Antibiotics and am going to have a chest X-ray after I have been cleared from Covid

All the best gbear. I had a pneumonia a few years back and it was awful.

Mind you, I wasn't diagnosed til after at least a week despite 2 visits to the GP, which wouldn't have helped.

 

[Alberton Proud]

I guess it is harder than it looks. At least he didn't hang it off his chin or leave it over his eyes.

 

[Interstater]

So how long before the AFL players must leave NSW?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

So how long before the AFL players must leave NSW?

???

11th June, day of restart, Vic had 1,699 cases and 5th July they had 2,536 and 7th day in a row of 60+ cases a day.

11th June NSW had 3,306 cases and 5th July had 3,419 cases and haven't had a 20 case day since 19th of April and most of double digit days since then ( there have been 7) have been because of international travellers.

One outbreak at a pub doesn't make them Victoria.

 

[Interstater]

???

11th June, day of restart, Vic had 1,699 cases and 5th July they had 2,536 and 7th day in a row of 60+ cases a day.

11th June NSW had 3,306 cases and 5th July had 3,419 cases and haven't had a 20 case day since 19th of April and most of double digit days since then ( there have been 7) have been because of international travellers.

One outbreak at a pub doesn't make them Victoria.

(Italics are quotes from the ABC)

As of 12.00pm on Monday, a total of 21 COVID-19 cases have been linked to the Casula pub — 10 people who went there, another 10 "close contacts" of that group, and one person who contracted the virus third-hand.

I think by Friday Sydney will be in the same situation as Melbourne, hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.

The below venues are places where a person visited before subsequently being diagnosed with coronavirus.

• Zone Bowling at Villawood (June 27 between 11am-3pm)
• The Picton Hotel gaming room (July 4, 5, 9 and 10)
• Star City Casino Sydney (July 4 between 8-10.30pm)
• Canterbury Leagues Club (July 4 between 11pm-1am)
• Murray Downs Golf Club (July 4 and 5)
• Highfield Caringbah, in southern Sydney (July 5, between 6-9pm)
• COOK at Kurnell (July 5 between 11.30am-12.30pm)
• Merimbula RSL (July 6 between 6-9pm)
• Narellan Town Centre shopping centre (July 6 including Kmart, Target, Best & Less, H&M, and the food court area)
• Planet Fitness, Casula (July 6-10)
• The Waterfront Cafe, Merimbula (July 7 between 8.30-9.30am)

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

As of 12.00pm on Monday, a total of 21 COVID-19 cases have been linked to the Casula pub — 10 people who went there, another 10 "close contacts" of that group, and one person who contracted the virus third-hand.

I think by Friday Sydney will be in the same situation as Melbourne, hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.

So you are saying 200 cases will be a result of the pub and another 300 around the rest of Sydney.

Can't see it.

 

[Interstater]

So you are saying 200 cases will be a result of the pub and another 300 around the rest of Sydney.

Can't see it.

I really hope you are right.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Do they know what antibodies they are testing?

The article in the Age doesn't say. It may be specified in the paper the researchers intend to publish.

 

[pastmyprimus]

As bad as what the outbreak is in Victoria, the last 3 weeks they have not recorded 1% of tests producing positive case.

It has doubled the last week or so from around 0.35% to 0.70%-0.75% partly because there have been 2 or 3 record testing days but when the tests have dropped to around 20k like the previous 2 weeks there have been 0.70% days.

What the bloody hell would would Dan Andrews be saying if it produced 45% positives like in New York 10 weeks ago and like the 30% like some Euro cities had and other places in the world that are reporting about 15%+ positives at the moment.

Yes, the % of positive tests in Vic has the been range 0.70% to 0.75% in the last 7 days including yesterday. Today's announced figure of 177 was based on a smaller number of tests.

 

[davo999]

So how long before the AFL players must leave NSW?

I reckon they should plan to get them out pretty quick , they might get away with sending them to Qld , for a bit and Finnish off the season in SA and Vic .

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[Forzaport]

This is an article (behind a paywall) about research conducted by the King's College in London (not peer reviewed yet) which found that immunity to covid-19 among those who have recovered from the infection may only last for a few months. These findings have been backed-up by researchers in Munich.

Scientists from King's College London analysed 90 patients and healthcare workers at Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Trust and found the level of antibodies in the immune system of those who had contracted the virus peaked just three weeks after they showed symptoms.

In the first longitudinal study of its kind, 60 per cent of participants were found to have a "potent" antibody response while in the throes of the virus, but this fell to just 17 per cent after three months. Levels of antibodies depleted by as much as 23-fold in the three-month period after infection and in some people became undetectable.

Researchers in Munich similarly found that those who have recovered could be vulnerable to a second infection. Tests conducted at the Schwabing Clinic on recovered patients demonstrated that the level of antibodies produced by the immune system dropped significantly in a majority of cases.

New research casts doubt on coronavirus immunity

Experts also warn on heart damage, while a top health official says the virus can linger in the air for an hour.

www.theage.com.au

The human immune system's response to a specific virus, which is from a family of viruses that is responsible for common colds and flu, is similar to the human immune system's response to common colds and flu.

It would be news if the human immune system's response to COVID-19 mirrored that of chickenpox.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Tasmania must be looking into the possibility of getting a hub.

 

[pastmyprimus]

The human immune system's response to a specific virus, which is from a family of viruses that is responsible for common colds and flu, is similar to the human immune system's response to common colds and flu.

It would be news if the human immune system's response to COVID-19 mirrored that of chickenpox.

I think it shows achieving herd immunity without a vaccine isn't going to work because people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies will have only limited protection from a second infection

 

[edgie]

Honestly all these QLD and Sydney games between neutral teams in front of crowds would have to be one of the best opportunities happening for growing the game.

Finances aside I don't believe there's too much downside to the way things have turned out. Taking the game out on tour shouldn't be seen as such a chore. Of course it's easy for me to say with no membership and all that that I'm not getting anything back from.

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[OneGreatClub]

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I think it shows achieving herd immunity without a vaccine isn't going to work because people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies will have only limited protection from a second infection

It will be interesting to see the outcome of a peer review of this in relation to TCell immunity

Important new findings on T cell immunity in COVID-19

Researchers at the Karolinska University Hospital and University Hospital of Wales report that people who have recovered from asymptomatic or mild cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) may have long-term T-cell immunity against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2).

www.news-medical.net