Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.

[OneGreatClub]

 

[afl2004]

 

[PowerBaz]

I note the thread has earned a Pt2. Hopefully the thread runs it's course over the next few weeks as Australia beats the virus and the footy resumes.

This thread started in early March as a response to Port's China game being under threat from the novel corona virus. As we now know the game did not eventuate and given recent developments I doubt that it will be back on the agenda until a vaccine is developed. Under the current conditions anyone travelling to China will do so at their own risk and be forced into 14 days quarantine when they return. That includes players and officials so if we went to China next year we would probably need consecutive byes to squeeze the quarantine in.

There is also the attitude of the Chinese Government to all things Australian atm. I do not think the souring of relations will help get the China deal back on track. I think it will be at least 2022 before we can resume playing in China and only then if a vaccine is found.

The question is if we are forced to defer the China deal what will it do to our financial situation?

We damn well get a better Oval deal and make more money from game day - that’s the obvious elephant in the room. I don’t know how but Marshall, the AFL all need to realise without a strong Port and Crows there is no SANFL.

I’m not sure why this isn’t being talked about in the media.

 

[PortWTF]

Back in Oz it is good to see the NSW Government cracking down on overcrowding at public venues. Berejiklian has suddenly got serious with Victoria albeit belatedly. NSW should have closed the Victorian border a month ago and if it had they would not have people floating into NSW and the ACT and spreading the virus. Of course Berejiklian put $$$$ before public safety and NSW is in danger of paying for it big time.

Blind Freddy could see the border should have been closed 2 weeks before it did, but because Berejiklian had made such a big issue about Queensland closing their border to NSW over and over she couldn't be seen to be hypocritical. What's worse though, a little bit of hypocrisy or another shutdown? I would have far more respect for her if she had shown that she cares more about doing the right thing than fearing looking bad.
That being said, it is likely the Crossroads hotel outbreak might be due to an interstate truckie, since it is used frequently by that crowd, so it may not have stopped it anyway.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Human trials begin on coronavirus vaccine developed by University of Queensland

The University of Queensland has begaun its first human trials of a COVID-19 vaccine. 120 volunteers received their first dose yesterday. Preliminary results of the trial are expected by the end of September. If all goes according to plan the vaccine could be ready in a years time. I think the trial is part funded by CSL, which has the capability to mass produce the vaccine. That's a big advantage. Australia could be down the list of recipients of vaccines developed overseas.

'It's a very big step': Human trials begin on coronavirus vaccine in Brisbane

Human trials are underway on 120 volunteers in the search to find a vaccine for coronavirus with preliminary results expected to be released at the end of September.

www.abc.net.au

 

[pastmyprimus]

Victoria's Chief Health Officer has said it is conceivable that all the active COVID-19 cases in Victoria stemmed from failures in Melbourne’s quarantine hotel program. Already breaches by guards at two city hotels have been identified as the source of outbreaks in Melbourne's north and west.

A former judge will lead an inquiry into Victoria's quarantine program. Andrews and his government are going to cop it, and cop it hard.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Human trials begin on coronavirus vaccine developed by University of Queensland

The University of Queensland has begaun its first human trials of a COVID-19 vaccine. 120 volunteers received their first dose yesterday. Preliminary results of the trial are expected by the end of September. If all goes according to plan the vaccine could be ready in a years time. I think the trial is part funded by CSL, which has the capability to mass produce the vaccine. That's a big advantage. Australia could be down the list of recipients of vaccines developed overseas.

'It's a very big step': Human trials begin on coronavirus vaccine in Brisbane

Human trials are underway on 120 volunteers in the search to find a vaccine for coronavirus with preliminary results expected to be released at the end of September.

www.abc.net.au

I wonder though, if immunity from contracting the virus is in question, whether vaccines would confer any protection beyond a few weeks or months after injection?
Admit I know nothing about vaccines and that they are developing different types.

 

[pastmyprimus]

I wonder though, if immunity from contracting the virus is in question, whether vaccines would confer any protection beyond a few weeks or months after injection?
Admit I know nothing about vaccines and that they are developing different types.

That's the million dollar question. The reseacher that's heading the Queensland trial was on The Project last night and was asked that question. He said even if protection lasts a few months only, one option is booster shots.

 

[OneGreatClub]

That's the million dollar question. The reseacher that's heading the Queensland trial was on The Project last night and was asked that question. He said even if protection lasts a few months only, one option is booster shots.

Thanks

 

[Interstater]

ABC

Some NSW visitors forced into hotel quarantine in Queensland
We've just got an update on Queensland declaring new city areas in New South Wales as hot spots.

It's pretty much what you'd expect — the new rules mean anyone who has visited, or visits the Campbelltown and Liverpool city areas will be forced into hotel quarantine if they enter Queensland from midday today.

We haven't heard from the Queensland premier today, but we'll probably get some more details on the logistics when she speaks.

 

[bomberclifford]

An interesting Quora response has been circulating over night regarding the "1% mortality rate".

Talks about the law of large numbers in relation to how to understand a mortality rate and the impact of the virus on those who have recovered. It's in a US context but it still applies here.

How can a disease with 1% mortality shut down the United States?

For every one person who dies:

19 more require hospitalization.
18 of those will have permanent heart damage for the rest of their lives.
10 will have permanent lung damage.
3 will have strokes.
2 will have neurological damage that leads to chronic weakness and loss of coordination.
2 will have neurological damage that leads to loss of cognitive function.

 

[snozulu]

It looks like a second wave is going to hit this country. It's already in NSW from VIC. QLD will be next.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[pastmyprimus]

The NRL may move the entire competition to Queensland. Worried about the spread in NSW. They can't afford a second halt to the season.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Vic's recorded 270 new cases today, 28 are linked to known outbreaks and 242 are under investigation.

Edit : 85 in hospital and 27 in ICU. A big jump in ICU cases in particular. Victoria has approximately 475 ICU beds. 75% of ICU beds are normally occupied leaving around 115 spare. I don't know what the current occupancy rate is but you can see that spare capacity is being gobbled up. And recent reported cases will add to the demand for beds in about 2 weeks.

 

[Sleezy]

Vic's recorded 270 new cases today, 28 are linked to known outbreaks and 242 are under investigation.

From 21k tests. A bit over 1% positive rate.

 

[PowerBaz]

An interesting Quora response has been circulating over night regarding the "1% mortality rate".

Talks about the law of large numbers in relation to how to understand a mortality rate and the impact of the virus on those who have recovered. It's in a US context but it still applies here.

How can a disease with 1% mortality shut down the United States?

Was that scientific fact?

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

We damn well get a better Oval deal and make more money from game day - that’s the obvious elephant in the room. I don’t know how but Marshall, the AFL all need to realise without a strong Port and Crows there is no SANFL.

I’m not sure why this isn’t being talked about in the media.

Lol - we ain’t getting nuthin.

 

[Forzaport]

NSW/ACT collateral damage to SA border reopening


SA Government backflips on borders, pushing back opening date for NSW and ACT

SA delays border reopening date for NSW and ACT amid Sydney coronavirus cluster

SA Premier Steven Marshall says the growing cluster of coronavirus cases linked to a Sydney hotel is partly behind a decision to delay the state's border reopening with NSW and the ACT.

www.abc.net.au

 

[manureid]

NSW/ACT collateral damage to SA border reopening


SA Government backflips on borders, pushing back opening date for NSW and ACT

SA delays border reopening date for NSW and ACT amid Sydney coronavirus cluster

SA Premier Steven Marshall says the growing cluster of coronavirus cases linked to a Sydney hotel is partly behind a decision to delay the state's border reopening with NSW and the ACT.

www.abc.net.au

Next week.... close em today ffs! Or are they not open at all yet?

Edit: Still restrictions. I doubt they get lifted now looking at outbreaks in NSW

 

[tangolikelama]

Vic's recorded 270 new cases today, 28 are linked to known outbreaks and 242 are under investigation.

Edit : 85 in hospital and 27 in ICU. A big jump in ICU cases in particular. Victoria has approximately 475 ICU beds. 75% of ICU beds are normally occupied leaving around 115 spare. I don't know what the current occupancy rate is but you can see that spare capacity is being gobbled up. And recent reported cases will add to the demand for beds in about 2 weeks.

They spent $1.9 billion on surge capacity for 4000 ICU beds in Vic. The issue will be staff.

 

[pastmyprimus]

They spent $1.9 billion on surge capacity for 4000 ICU beds in Vic. The issue will be staff.

We're all hoping it doesn't get to that. With staff they'll need to rely on non ICU specialist trained doctors and nurses which adds to the risk of treatment

 

[philreich]

I was speaking to a guy from one of our suppliers yesterday, and he says he heard about a car load of 6 irresponsible Victorians, who decided it'd be a great idea to drive to Queensland earlier this month. The authorities intercepted the car, and issued on the spot fines of $4000 to each occupant (nice for the government coffers I guess). One of them said later, "Yeah we knew we were doing the wrong thing, but we decided to do it anyway."

A classic case of the moronic minority stuffing things up for the rest of us, who are trying to do the right thing.

 

[PowerBaz]

I was speaking to a guy from one of our suppliers yesterday, and he says he heard about a car load of 6 irresponsible Victorians, who decided it'd be a great idea to drive to Queensland earlier this month. The authorities intercepted the car, and issued on the spot fines of $4000 to each occupant (nice for the government coffers I guess). One of them said later, "Yeah we knew we were doing the wrong thing, but we decided to do it anyway."

A classic case of the moronic minority stuffing things up for the rest of us, who are trying to do the right thing.

'the Aussie Larakin'.....

 

[Interstater]

I was speaking to a guy from one of our suppliers yesterday, and he says he heard about a car load of 6 irresponsible Victorians, who decided it'd be a great idea to drive to Queensland earlier this month. The authorities intercepted the car, and issued on the spot fines of $4000 to each occupant (nice for the government coffers I guess). One of them said later, "Yeah we knew we were doing the wrong thing, but we decided to do it anyway."

A classic case of the moronic minority stuffing things up for the rest of us, who are trying to do the right thing.

Ridiculous attempt to cross border costs six Victorians $24,000

A busload of Victorians have been blasted as “selfish” after they copped a $24,000 fine over an audacious attempt to cross the Queensland border illegally.

www.news.com.au

It only affects boomers and sick people...