Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

Sounds like the Pirhana Brothers' Other Other Operation

Thanks for clarifying things: thumbs up


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[OneGreatClub]

So I was reading that the regular flu kills between 12,000 and 60,000 per year in the US.
Will be interesting to see how the covid19 stats look at the end of this 12 month period.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Careful you'll be called a right wing conspiracy theorist by the leftists in here, there's many.

They're in hysterics shitting them selves living in fear because thats the narrative the media has out out.

A lot in here think they're intellecually gifted, but this media pandemic has exposed them as the ordinary run of the mill sheeple they all are.

They'll read an article, cherry pick it apart, amd give their interpretation as if their interpretation is the only one.

Now be quiet and sit back down be quiet you right wing conspiracy theorist Pauline Hanson lover you. Lol

Bolsonaro showed absolutely no fear, in fact he laughed it off as a flu and hysteria.
His country is doing brilliantly I guess.

 

[PortWTF]

So the CDC's been massively ******* up the stats in America, the question is it on purpose or deliberate. Going by the past 3 1/2 years hard to argue it was more than likely deliberate.

I have to ask, we lost nearly twice as many people from Swine flu but I'm pretty sure you guys didn't freak out like this. We're talking about not being able to play football in Victoria because there's what .04% of the population with it. We aren't capable of keeping the teams in Vic isolated like they are in a hub interstate? like fu** me, what would be like in a serious pandemic, everyone's lost sight that the only reason we shutdown was because of the fear that the hospital system would get over run and are now confused about the outcome.

On top of that the same people (seemingly running the AFL as well) have loaded this thread full of rabid TDS where the virus infects everyone world wide but magically in America Trumps personally breathing it into peoples lungs, anyone who disagrees with BLM is the worst and don't you know the virus is sentient so doesn't infect people who protest for a cause you agree with whilst at the same time trying to tell everyone what they can and can't do.

Yes it's a sh*t virus but fu** we do the right thing, we all managed to do the right thing during Swine Flu and everything else before this but on this occasion there seems no end to the hysteria. I can guarantee the suicides already dwarf the Covid deaths here, let alone the years of peoples lives we are wiping out economically and physically (due to the economic set backs) which you can't fix with stimulus and temporary hand outs.

I don't know what you're referring to about the CDC, but I think you might be downplaying the seriousness of this virus somewhat.

Best estimates suggest that about 12,000 people died of Swine flu in the US, and between 150,000 and 550,000 worldwide. That was with life continuing as normal.
Covid-19 has killed at least 130,000 in the US, and over 550,000 worldwide. Despite massive worldwide economy devastating lockdowns, travel bans, quarantines, ongoing social restrictions. If you don't think that is a serious pandemic, I would like to know your definition of one.

 

[FPPF]

I don't know what you're referring to about the CDC, but I think you might be downplaying the seriousness of this virus somewhat.

Best estimates suggest that about 12,000 people died of Swine flu in the US, and between 150,000 and 550,000 worldwide. That was with life continuing as normal.
Covid-19 has killed at least 130,000 in the US, and over 550,000 worldwide. Despite massive worldwide economy devastating lockdowns, travel bans, quarantines, ongoing social restrictions. If you don't think that is a serious pandemic, I would like to know your definition of one.

You do know the numbers are padded for political purpose? For both infections and deaths.

Oh wait, we're supposed to be living in fear.
Stay out of the sunlight too lol

 

[OneGreatClub]

Unbelievable

 

[StrappingTape]

I don't know what you're referring to about the CDC, but I think you might be downplaying the seriousness of this virus somewhat.

Best estimates suggest that about 12,000 people died of Swine flu in the US, and between 150,000 and 550,000 worldwide. That was with life continuing as normal.
Covid-19 has killed at least 130,000 in the US, and over 550,000 worldwide. Despite massive worldwide economy devastating lockdowns, travel bans, quarantines, ongoing social restrictions. If you don't think that is a serious pandemic, I would like to know your definition of one.

Those numbers are going to be greatly reconciled in the future but I am talking AU specifically as we are talking AFL here.

I'm saying surely the AFL and Australia in general can manage to keep the players isolated in Victoria with an infection rate of 0.04% of the population. Any other pandemic etc we've never had such a melt but like come on did we collectively lose our ability to function and we have hardly been hit in Australia.

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

You do know the numbers are padded for political purpose? For both infections and deaths.

Oh wait, we're supposed to be living in fear.
Stay out of the sunlight too lol

I believe you Karen, please continue...

 

[Andre]

You do know the numbers are padded for political purpose? For both infections and deaths.

Oh wait, we're supposed to be living in fear.
Stay out of the sunlight too lol

Yes, because Trump was presiding over an economy doing well prior to COVID-19, where US Presidents never lose getting a second term if the economy is strong. He's wanting the US trashed just so he has a contest I'm sure ScoMo was secretly a closet socialist all along and couldn't wait for an excuse to implement policies the Libs would in normal circumstances wouldn't go within 1000 km's of. That balanced budget talk was just a distraction whilst he finalised his plans to wrack up 100's of billions of debt. They even roped in that hardened Facist across the ditch, Jacinda Ardern to lock down NZ, to distract everyone from finding out her teeth were actually illegally implanted in a hospital in Parguay.

 

[Portology]

Right now Dan is using as cover an inquiry he's called in the hotel quarantine program. It'll be headed by a former judge. The inquiry is due to start soon with a report due in late September. The story going around in Vic is that the unions pressured him to use private security firms instead of the ADF.

Labor won the last election by a big margin. On top of that the opposition is pretty ineffective at the moment. Even with this stuff-up and the branch stacking scandal, my guess is that he'll survive but his reputation will take a big hit. I think the scape-goat will be the Health Minister.

Not the same circumstances but I'm expecting the health minister in NSW to be the scape goat for the Ruby Princess fiasco. There's no way Gladys is going to try to throw that one up to Border Force/Dutton.

Lines of responsibility weren't exactly clear of the waterline but Border Force's statement that their role was only to enforce the medical opinion NSW Heath gave them ... on face value and "no lawyer but" that seems more reasonable than the confused finger pointing that NSW Health folks have described over that 24 hour period.

The Vic situation, it'll be very interesting to see where the actual decision to use said private security came from. If the minister didn't want it and formally asked Andrews for a decision that's surely going to come out and it's a much clearer GTFO moment for either the minister or the premier.

 

[PowerBaz]

These two women in their 30s have both had coronavirus symptoms for months

When Georgia Mooney was diagnosed with COVID-19 in March she was not too concerned. But four months later she is still experiencing symptoms and she is not alone.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Macca19]

Capacity for the St Kilda game will be 21k. Approx 15k season ticket holders will be able to attend.

 

[FPPF]

Yes, because Trump was presiding over an economy doing well prior to COVID-19, where US Presidents never lose getting a second term if the economy is strong. He's wanting the US trashed just so he has a contest I'm sure ScoMo was secretly a closet socialist all along and couldn't wait for an excuse to implement policies the Libs would in normal circumstances wouldn't go within 1000 km's of. That balanced budget talk was just a distraction whilst he finalised his plans to wrack up 100's of billions of debt. They even roped in that hardened Facist across the ditch, Jacinda Ardern to lock down NZ, to distract everyone from finding out her teeth were actually illegally implanted in a hospital in Parguay.

Predictable random leftie gibberish response. Lol I quite enjoy this.
How long till one of you cant handle it and report me to your mate whose a mod to give you some relief again.

 

[NEGAN]

Holy shit....

I see it but I don't believe it....

Someone's finally getting it....and a news.com.au article to boot

Reasons why authorities don’t believe COVID-19 can be eliminated

As the coronavirus continues to spread across NSW, authorities are resisting calls for a second lockdown and say it’s impossible to eliminate COVID-19.

www.news.com.au

"One of the biggest problems with going into lockdown is the cost to businesses and the economy.

As Ms Berejiklian noted in her comments, business confidence takes a hit if they are constantly being forced to close.

“Every time we have an outbreak, we can’t afford to lockdown, reopen, lockdown, reopen,” she said. “That’s no way to live or to be able to instil confidence to businesses to keep employing people"

6/7 months in and finally a leader actually gets it.

It's not only businesses it's the absolute madness and fear your instilling in society especially our children/ grandkids...and their futures.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

6/7 months in and finally a leader actually gets it.

So you're relying on Gladys as your leader that gets it... well I guess its not as bad as relying on Trump as your person that "gets it".

 

[OneGreatClub]

Holy sh*t....

I see it but I don't believe it....

Someone's finally getting it....and a news.com.au article to boot

Reasons why authorities don’t believe COVID-19 can be eliminated

As the coronavirus continues to spread across NSW, authorities are resisting calls for a second lockdown and say it’s impossible to eliminate COVID-19.

www.news.com.au

"One of the biggest problems with going into lockdown is the cost to businesses and the economy.

As Ms Berejiklian noted in her comments, business confidence takes a hit if they are constantly being forced to close.

“Every time we have an outbreak, we can’t afford to lockdown, reopen, lockdown, reopen,” she said. “That’s no way to live or to be able to instil confidence to businesses to keep employing people"

6/7 months in and finally a leader actually gets it.

It's not only businesses it's the absolute madness and fear your instilling in society especially our children/ grandkids...and their futures.

I agree that lockdown, reopen, lockdown will destroy many many more businesses

There is actually no right answer but I wish we could go for elimination this time.

In all seriousness, one of the biggest problems is that whilst the majority do th right thing by social distancing, avoiding big parties, etc it is the lowest common denominator, the few that are the issue
If only as a society we could rely on the magority to do the right thing then maybe shutting down wouldn’t have been necessary.
It really is a massive problem.
If there is a blase attitude and not even a healthy sense fear at all then we are stuffed.
I don’t want lockdown, it has decimated lives and livelihoods but sadly the few will destroy it for the majority.
And those who are saying it is purely a conspiracy or fake news are dangerous to all of us in my opinion.
Brazil did nothing and look at what is happening.
Sweden left it up to their population to do the right thing and look what happened.


We obviously need more contact tracers and faster test turnaround for a start.

There have to be some constraints and why should the health workers be the ones to bear the brunt of the suffering when it reaches them at the end of the line?

 

[pastmyprimus]

The Vic situation, it'll be very interesting to see where the actual decision to use said private security came from. If the minister didn't want it and formally asked Andrews for a decision that's surely going to come out and it's a much clearer GTFO moment for either the minister or the premier.

I reckon the decision to use private security came from Andrews after pressure from the unions. No doubt responsibility for who made the decision will be examined in the inquiry. The ducking and weaving will be interesting to watch.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Yes but what about the stock market?

I think the fall in the stock market wasn't necessarily a bad thing as it was overheated and due for a correction at some point.

I see too many people arguing about health and the economy as an "either or" zero sum game rather than as a "both and" situation. In fact, I'd go as far to say that a thriving economy is the primary cause of good health outcomes. It's no coincidence that people in advanced first world economies have longer life expectancies than those in developing countries. The more wealth generated, the greater the investment in healthcare; the more taxes raised, the more the government can spend on healthcare etc.

If the economy collapsed, the impacts on society would be orders of magnitude greater than what we're experiencing due to COVID. If toilet paper is flying off the shelves again in virus-free SA because of flare ups in Victoria, what would happen if supply chains were really disrupted? It would make Lord of the Flies look like a utopian parable on the generosity of human spirit.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[EskimoPAFC]

You do know the numbers are padded for political purpose? For both infections and deaths.

Oh wait, we're supposed to be living in fear.
Stay out of the sunlight too lol

It depends on what you mean by this.

Both actual infections and actual deaths far surpass the numbers reported, and this has been shown anywhere they've done totally random testing. So if a country say has 50,000 known cases, depending on how thorough their testing is, they likely have at an absolute minimum 200,000+ actual cases.

However the % mortality rates are clearly 'padded' due to the bias in who actually gets tested, the real mortality rates as a % probably sit far below the rates that are actually discussed due to the amount of asymptomatic/mild carriers that are never tested.

And yes, as per most things in the world these statistics are being twisted by various media outlets/political groups.

 

[snozulu]

Russian intelligence ‘hacked virus vaccine’

The UK, Canada and US have accused a Russian hacking group “almost certainly” backed by intelligence services of targeting research into coronavirus vaccines.

www.news.com.au

Hackers “almost certainly” from a Russian intelligence agency have been targeting coronavirus vaccine development, the UK, US and Canada warned.

The group, APT29, is also known as The Dukes or Cozy Bear and has been collecting information on vaccine development and research into the COVID-19 virus, UK authorities said on Thursday.

It said throughout 2020, the group has targeted organisations involved in vaccine development in the UK, Canada and the US with malware and phishing emails “highly likely with the intention of stealing information and intellectual property relating to the development and testing of COVID-19 vaccines.”

Mr Raab said the attempt at meddling was “completely unacceptable”. Labour also condemned any attempt by Russia to “interfere in our country’s democratic processes”.


“We can only say this: Russia has nothing to do with these attempts. We do not accept such accusations nor the latest groundless allegations of interference in 2019 elections.”

A wider report on Russian interference in the UK election is due next week.

 

[snozulu]

Mystery secret Victoria report by virus detectives

A secret report by virus detectives into the source of the COVID-19 outbreak that has forced Melbourne into lockdown is being kept under wraps by the Victorian Government.

www.news.com.au

A secret report by virus detectives into the source of the COVID-19 outbreak is being kept under wraps by the Victorian Government.

The renowned Doherty Institute, the medical research facility that convinced Prime Minister Scott Morrison to shut down the economy earlier this year to avoid a European-style outbreak, has revealed it cannot release new genomic sequencing because of a public inquiry into the bungled hotel quarantine mess.

But the decision has sparked fury in Victoria, because the taxpayer-funded research explaining how the outbreak escaped hotel quarantine and forced its way into multiple public housing blocks in Victoria is critical to understanding why millions of Melburnians are now under lockdown.


In a press release announcing the inquiry this month, the Victorian Government noted: “The Chief Health Officer has advised the Government that a number of cases of coronavirus in the community have been linked through genomic sequencing to an infection control breach in the hotel quarantine program.”

Victorian Opposition leader Michael O’Brien urged the Andrews Government to be “honest with Victorians and stop covering up the problems and mismanagement around hotel quarantine.”

 

[Greasyrhys]

Not sure if posted elsewhere, but the $MA have surprisingly dropped prices for popular items at AO until the end of the 2021 season

 

[raptalia]

Russian intelligence ‘hacked virus vaccine’

The UK, Canada and US have accused a Russian hacking group “almost certainly” backed by intelligence services of targeting research into coronavirus vaccines.

www.news.com.au

Hackers “almost certainly” from a Russian intelligence agency have been targeting coronavirus vaccine development, the UK, US and Canada warned.

The group, APT29, is also known as The Dukes or Cozy Bear and has been collecting information on vaccine development and research into the COVID-19 virus, UK authorities said on Thursday.

It said throughout 2020, the group has targeted organisations involved in vaccine development in the UK, Canada and the US with malware and phishing emails “highly likely with the intention of stealing information and intellectual property relating to the development and testing of COVID-19 vaccines.”

Mr Raab said the attempt at meddling was “completely unacceptable”. Labour also condemned any attempt by Russia to “interfere in our country’s democratic processes”.


“We can only say this: Russia has nothing to do with these attempts. We do not accept such accusations nor the latest groundless allegations of interference in 2019 elections.”

A wider report on Russian interference in the UK election is due next week.

The Russian response is entirely predictable. It is all a Western plot to discredit Russia blah blah. Putin has no credibility in my eyes and his continual denials in the face of hard evidence is tiresome. If it isn't the Russians trying to hack Western cyber networks it is the Chinese or the Iranians. When these nations, run by autocrats are bereft of ideas they try to steal someone else's property and pass it off as their own. What is worse is they try to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries.

On the subject of trust I have reached a point where I am not sure I want the PAFC to be involved in China anymore. I acknowledge that China is Australia's biggest trading partner and ending the China experiment will cost us financially but I no longer trust the bastards and we may have to look at alternatives. Some time ago the AFL tried India and maybe it is time for another crack at it?

 

[bomberclifford]

Not sure if posted elsewhere, but the $MA have surprisingly dropped prices for popular items at AO until the end of the 2021 season View attachment 913648

Can't wait to spend that 10¢ I save on a coffee.