Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.

[pastmyprimus]

I am not sure I understand this re police patrolling borders.
If they are wearing 3 ply surgical masks in an outdoor setting and maintaining social distancing there should be no problem.
Forget the rambling waffle about wearing or not wearing masks, proferred by our politicians. When applied correctly 3 ply surgical masks are quite effective.

It must be that they are contacting with their hands - inspecting drivers licences for example. In which case they need to tighten up that procedure.

They are being given 3 ply masks, I hope?

I also hope these people are being trained to apply these surgical masks correctly. Not just being given them and told, "Off you go now"

Something's not working. I hope VIC police are trying to get to the bottom of this.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Shit, 317 new cases in Vic (a record) of which 289 are under investigation.

109 in hosp, 29 in ICU and 2 deaths

 

[TeeKray]

Seriously regardless of whether anyone was infected at the BLM protests or not going ahead with it in the middle of a pandemic is Homer Simpson levels of dumbass.

Yeah, literally no different from giving the green light to playing the grand final at the 'G with a full crowd.

 

[raptalia]

Victoria has recorded 317 new cases of coronavirus in 24 hours.
This is the highest daily total since 10 July, when Victoria recorded 288 cases in one day, and sets a new record for the highest daily total recorded by Victoria territory since the pandemic began.
The Victorian premier, Daniel Andrews, says two men in their 80s died of the coronavirus overnight. It brings the total number of deaths in the state to 29.
Currently, there are 109 patients in hospital, 29 in intensive care.

This isn't getting any better despite what the experts say.

On Wednesday, Victorian Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton said while there was no guarantee of a drop-off in cases, "we should see it by the end of this week".

The end of the week is now only three days away, not far off Brett.

Victoria's case numbers are causing alarm. Here's some context from experts

The number of active coronavirus cases in Victoria has jumped fivefold in the last fortnight but, after a few days of stabilisation, some experts say stricter lockdown measures could be beginning to pay off.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Andre]

This isn't getting any better despite what the experts say.

On Wednesday, Victorian Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton said while there was no guarantee of a drop-off in cases, "we should see it by the end of this week".

The end of the week is now only three days away, not far off Brett.

Victoria's case numbers are causing alarm. Here's some context from experts

The number of active coronavirus cases in Victoria has jumped fivefold in the last fortnight but, after a few days of stabilisation, some experts say stricter lockdown measures could be beginning to pay off.

www.abc.net.au

It needs 4 weeks of people complying (2 cycles) to see a significant drop in numbers. People complying is the issue. At least security guards aren't bonking quarantined travelers anymore (hopefully!), but looking at all these idiots caught fleeing Victoria or having parties I don't hold out hope Stage 3 lock downs will do it. Stage 4 with the ADF providing more support, with possibly also police from other states sent across to help enforce compliance, is the only way I see them getting it under control. Too many Vics can't be trusted to do the right thing and are still ****ing it up for the rest of their state (and country).

 

[edgie]

Facts: people were at the protests who caught the virus
Opinions: we don't think that has anything to do with it
People: IT'S IRREFUTABLE THAT THE PROTESTS HAD NO ILL EFFECTS ON ANYONE

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[Duck Farmer]

But Trump would like this graph, "if we don't test we won't get positive cases".

Don't confuse empathy with progressive liberal democracies with any love of Trump. In fact, Trump has joined the throng sinking the boots into Sweden as he tries to deflect attention from the chaos ensuing in the US due to a lack of any coherent strategy. Whether people agree with it or not, Sweden has a deliberate strategy based around hard lockdowns being unsustainable in the long term and instead trusting people to act responsibly and take sensible precautions while the public health system is not being overwhelmed. I also reckon our government is preparing people for this approach as they change the narrative from elimination to suppression and appear to have little appetite for enforcing another hard lockdown.

 

[Jonts]

Facts: people were at the protests who caught the virus
Opinions: we don't think that has anything to do with it
People: IT'S IRREFUTABLE THAT THE PROTESTS HAD NO ILL EFFECTS ON ANYONE

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Opinions of doctors and professional tracers

:no one caught it at the protests


If you're going to argue that the protests where a bad idea, argue that it sent the wrong visual to society (what i agree with, give the average punter a inch he takes a mile).

 

[DaTBird187]

I'm really annoyed at George Floyd. He chose such an inconvenient time to be murdered.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Seriously regardless of whether anyone was infected at the BLM protests or not going ahead with it in the middle of a pandemic is Homer Simpson levels of dumbass.

One thing this pandemic has done is to bring every person of low IQ out of the woodwork

 

[OneGreatClub]

sh*t, 317 new cases in Vic (a record) of which 289 are under investigation.

109 in hosp, 29 in ICU and 2 deaths

Expecting escalation of deaths in week or two I would guess

 

[raptalia]

So we have another Madam X, this woman was in quarantine in Victoria and tested negative twice. She comes to SA is tested and is positive. What the **** is going on in Victoria? At least she is not contagious.

Pretty disappointing really.

SA announces fines for refusing coronavirus tests as new case confirmed

The SA Government says fines of $1,000 will apply to travellers from Victoria who refuse a coronavirus test on arrival in SA, as the state confirms its first COVID-19 case in more than two weeks.

www.abc.net.au

 

[pastmyprimus]

Expecting escalation of deaths in week or two I would guess

Sadly yes. For one reason the virus has got into a number of nursing homes.

You can put almost all of the blame on the hotel quarantine stuff-up. Using private security guards instead of the police/ADF. The Chief Health Officer in Vic has said the guards are the primary source of the outbreaks. NSW has double the number of overseas returned travellers by plane than Vic but no outbreaks in NSW have been traced back to hotels acting as quarantine centres.

 

[rocket18]

Sadly yes. For one reason the virus has got into a number of nursing homes.

You can put almost all of the blame on the hotel quarantine stuff-up. Using private security guards instead of the police/ADF. The Chief Health Officer in Vic has said the guards are the primary source of the outbreaks. NSW has double the number of overseas returned travellers by plane than Vic but no outbreaks in NSW have been traced back to hotels acting as quarantine centres.

Surely Civid-Dan has to resign, he knocked back the offer of the ADF from the feds preferring Dodgy Brothers Incorporated to look after the quarantine, now the whole country is at risk.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Surely Civid-Dan has to resign, he knocked back the offer of the ADF from the feds preferring Dodgy Brothers Incorporated to look after the quarantine, now the whole country is at risk.

Right now Dan is using as cover an inquiry he's called in the hotel quarantine program. It'll be headed by a former judge. The inquiry is due to start soon with a report due in late September. The story going around in Vic is that the unions pressured him to use private security firms instead of the ADF.

Labor won the last election by a big margin. On top of that the opposition is pretty ineffective at the moment. Even with this stuff-up and the branch stacking scandal, my guess is that he'll survive but his reputation will take a big hit. I think the scape-goat will be the Health Minister.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Labor won the last election by a big margin. On top of that the opposition is pretty ineffective at the moment. Even with this stuff-up and the branch stacking scandal, my guess is that he'll survive but his reputation will take a big hit. I think the scape-goat will be the Health Minister.

Is the branch stacking scandal even likely to have much impact against Labor? People still voted for the Labor representatives in those branches, the alternative is that the Labor candidate might've been someone who the public wouldn't vote for?

Its not like the public got a representative that they didn't vote for.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Is the branch stacking scandal even likely to have much impact against Labor? People still voted for the Labor representatives in those branches, the alternative is that the Labor candidate might've been someone who the public wouldn't vote for?

Its not like the public got a representative that they didn't vote for.

It might be enough to turn a marginal seat that Labor holds. But Labor hold a big majority, holding 55 of the 88 lower house seats.

 

[Andre]

Is the branch stacking scandal even likely to have much impact against Labor? People still voted for the Labor representatives in those branches, the alternative is that the Labor candidate might've been someone who the public wouldn't vote for?

Its not like the public got a representative that they didn't vote for.

Branch stacking is such a common occurrence for Labor only the newest voter wouldn't be aware it's rife and likely will always be. State governments exist largely to spend money the feds give them on the warm and fuzzies of Hospitals and schools. They can be as financially / politically incompetent as they like and given the Feds are the money source largely get away with it at State level.

Without the power to take too much out of people's pockets, state governments can get away with nepotism and corruption the Fed's could only dream up (of either party, Labor just tend to have their fights and subsequent exposure of corruption more publicly). It usually takes a few terms of corruption scandals to kick out a state government, unless they commit the political risky strategy of trying to run their state with a balanced budget. More often than not it's Liberals too stupid to realise doing this and touching the sacred cows is political suicide.

 

[raptalia]

Right now Dan is using as cover an inquiry he's called in the hotel quarantine program. It'll be headed by a former judge. The inquiry is due to start soon with a report due in late September. The story going around in Vic is that the unions pressured him to use private security firms instead of the ADF.

Labor won the last election by a big margin. On top of that the opposition is pretty ineffective at the moment. Even with this stuff-up and the branch stacking scandal, my guess is that he'll survive but his reputation will take a big hit. I think the scape-goat will be the Health Minister.

Unlike a Royal Commission the inquiry is limited in it's scope. Two major drawbacks are,

• Witnesses can refuse to answer questions for fear of self-incrimination.
• The inquiry will not have the power to issue search warrants or seize documents.

I have doubts that Ministers or representatives from private security companies are going to fess up to gross negligence and incompetence.

 

[StrappingTape]

So the CDC's been massively ****ing up the stats in America, the question is it on purpose or deliberate. Going by the past 3 1/2 years hard to argue it was more than likely deliberate.

I have to ask, we lost nearly twice as many people from Swine flu but I'm pretty sure you guys didn't freak out like this. We're talking about not being able to play football in Victoria because there's what .04% of the population with it. We aren't capable of keeping the teams in Vic isolated like they are in a hub interstate? like **** me, what would be like in a serious pandemic, everyone's lost sight that the only reason we shutdown was because of the fear that the hospital system would get over run and are now confused about the outcome.

On top of that the same people (seemingly running the AFL as well) have loaded this thread full of rabid TDS where the virus infects everyone world wide but magically in America Trumps personally breathing it into peoples lungs, anyone who disagrees with BLM is the worst and don't you know the virus is sentient so doesn't infect people who protest for a cause you agree with whilst at the same time trying to tell everyone what they can and can't do.

Yes it's a shit virus but **** we do the right thing, we all managed to do the right thing during Swine Flu and everything else before this but on this occasion there seems no end to the hysteria. I can guarantee the suicides already dwarf the Covid deaths here, let alone the years of peoples lives we are wiping out economically and physically (due to the economic set backs) which you can't fix with stimulus and temporary hand outs.

 

[FPPF]

More racist twaddle from the Australian and sky news



Victorian health officials have refuted claims there is a link between the Black Lives Matter protest and a coronavirus outbreak in Melbourne’s public housing towers.

The Australian reported on Tuesday authorities that two people who attended the protests more than a month ago were part of the cluster.

However, in a statement to 7NEWS.com.au, the Department of Health and Human Services said there was no evidence linking the two.

“We are aware of six confirmed cases who attended the Black Lives Matter protest. Currently there is no evidence to suggest they acquired the virus from the protest,” a spokesperson said.

“None of these cases are known to reside at a major public housing complex.

“Currently, no known nor suspected episodes of transmission occurred at the protest itself.”

But sure, it's all "Joseph Stalin" Andrews fault, when he didn't want the protests going ahead to begin with.

Your posts are all highly inflammatory, so onto the ignore list with you.

Awww, cant handle facts so puts people in ignore.

Inflammatory? How? Because you disgaree? Welcome to the real world child, where people have different opinions and views.

Christ these millenials are soft *****.

Everything offends them, nobody should have an opinion different ro theirs, and if you dare have the audacity to speak they cry and put you on ignore, or refuse to talk in front of a camera. Lmfao

And these are the people voting and helping decide our nations future. God help us.

This kid is the sort of punk you see protesting blocking roads and then crying at high pitch how they haven't done anything wrong despite refusing directions by police to move on or resisting arrest, of course they never show you why they're being forcefully arrested, just the bit where the cops look heavy handed while the cry baby millenial screams at high pitch how they haven't done anything wrong lmfao.

Jog on whiner, you were never able to actually add any insightful or meaningful commentary to my posts, just you're lame attempts at trying to be a comedian.

 

[FPPF]

So what, two people who might live in the towers attended a rally with 9,998 other people. As the tower population includes many refugees from African nations it is hardly surprising. So what is Rachel Blaxendale trying to assert, that two people from the towers might have attended the BLM Rally where they may have contracted COVID-19? This article has all the hallmarks of a beat up intended to get members of the extreme right to buy a paper. The article's content doesn't match the headline and the entire article is a jumble of supposition from a journo with no comment and denial from the health authorities. Despite the 'failure to confirms' and expressions of doubt by Victorian health authorities the journo believes there is a link.

Amid all the headlines and beat up is this bit, 'DHHS says it has still not established the source of any of the interlinked clusters, with Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton on the record expressing scepticism that the protesters caught the virus at the rally.'

Then there is this bit, 'But the Department of Health and Human Services has refused to say whether members of the cluster, which includes the protest attendees, live in the public housing towers.'

When Sutton confirms that the tower residents contracted COVID at the rally I will believe it.

And what does this bit mean, While the confirmation stops short of establishing the protest as a cause of the public housing megacluster, it demonstrates clear links between the mass gathering, attendees who tested positive, and the state’s largest COVID-19 cluster to date.
What clear links are these? The Victorian health authority hasn't confirmed any thing Blaxendale put to them.

Finally there is this bit, “I don‘t think the Black Lives Matter protesters contributed. We’re not seeing people who’ve clearly acquired it there,” he [Prof. Sutton] said.

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

Maybe you should read and analyse an article and not just look at the headline before you start telling the rest of us how right you think you are?

Nice cherry picking.

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

[FPPF]

So the CDC's been massively ******* up the stats in America, the question is it on purpose or deliberate. Going by the past 3 1/2 years hard to argue it was more than likely deliberate.

I have to ask, we lost nearly twice as many people from Swine flu but I'm pretty sure you guys didn't freak out like this. We're talking about not being able to play football in Victoria because there's what .04% of the population with it. We aren't capable of keeping the teams in Vic isolated like they are in a hub interstate? like fu** me, what would be like in a serious pandemic, everyone's lost sight that the only reason we shutdown was because of the fear that the hospital system would get over run and are now confused about the outcome.

On top of that the same people (seemingly running the AFL as well) have loaded this thread full of rabid TDS where the virus infects everyone world wide but magically in America Trumps personally breathing it into peoples lungs, anyone who disagrees with BLM is the worst and don't you know the virus is sentient so doesn't infect people who protest for a cause you agree with whilst at the same time trying to tell everyone what they can and can't do.

Yes it's a sh*t virus but fu** we do the right thing, we all managed to do the right thing during Swine Flu and everything else before this but on this occasion there seems no end to the hysteria. I can guarantee the suicides already dwarf the Covid deaths here, let alone the years of peoples lives we are wiping out economically and physically (due to the economic set backs) which you can't fix with stimulus and temporary hand outs.

Careful you'll be called a right wing conspiracy theorist by the leftists in here, there's many.

They're in hysterics shitting them selves living in fear because thats the narrative the media has out out.

A lot in here think they're intellecually gifted, but this media pandemic has exposed them as the ordinary run of the mill sheeple they all are.

They'll read an article, cherry pick it apart, amd give their interpretation as if their interpretation is the only one.

Now be quiet and sit back down be quiet you right wing conspiracy theorist Pauline Hanson lover you. Lol

 

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

So anyone coming into Sth Australia who refuses testing is slapped with $1000, are they still being tested ? I’m confused


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[Capital Power]

So anyone coming into Sth Australia who refuses testing is slapped with $1000, are they still being tested ? I’m confused


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Sounds like the Pirhana Brothers' Other Other Operation