Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 4.

[OneGreatClub]

How low will they go over there?

 

[raptalia]

WA has become the first State to introduce a vaccine passport of sorts for people from NSW entering WA. Arrivals from NSW will have to show evidence of at least one COVID vaccination jab. Mark McGowan hopes the new regime will be a blueprint for other States.

If the other States follow it will put real pressure on Berejiklian to lift her game. NSW will be seen as a leper colony.

I think Nicola Spurrier for one will be watching this very closely.

NINE news carrying a story that Victoria, Tasmania and Queensland are each developing COVID passports.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Morrison today - On Thursday, there were more than 270,000 vaccinations in Australia, the “equivalent in per capita terms to the fourth best day they had in the UK ever,” the prime minister said.

Our politicians just cant help but go for the simple UK or USA comparison.

We should be benchmarking ourselves against Canada.

Canada has 1.5 times the population we have and 1.5 times the land mass. The majority of their population is on a line close to the US border, ours is a line down the eastern seaboard along our Pacific Ocean coast. They have vulnerable indigenous communities spread out in the vast wilderness as do we. They have large empty tracts of lands of farms, lakes and frozen wilderness and national parks, we have large empty tracts of lands of farms, deserts and national parks. They have a lot of FIFO mining sites, we have a lot of FIFO mining sites.

They have a strong universal public health system similar to Oz, based on a federation system where their provinces have a high degree of control, like what happens across our state health systems re health delivery services as per Sect 51 of our constitution sets out.

270k in Oz is the same as 400k in Canada which is a good result. They hit 400k in early May after cranking things up in early April hitting 200k per day the equivalent of about 130k in Oz for the first time. Canada hit 600k in late June and peaked at 700k on 29th June - that is about 470k with Oz's population. I reckon that should be the aim in Oz, to hit a daily peak of about 470k in 6 weeks time.

As of Thursday night Canadian time;
* 71.6% of the population has received 1 dose or 82.3% of the population aged 12+ has received 1 dose.
* 62.4% of the population has received 2 doses or 71.7% of the population aged 12+ has received 2 doses.

So if we can match Canada's vaccination rate adjusted for population difference to what they daily achieved post early May, then we reach the Doherty Institute's targets of 70% and 80% of the eligible population by early to mid November.

Don't worry about what the pommie rates are, benchmark us to what the seal clubbers have rolled out. These are the two sites I have been looking at a couple of times a week at the last 8 weeks or so.

Daily info

COVID-19 Tracker Canada - Vaccination Tracker

Real-time COVID-19 vaccination updates for every region in Canada, tracking doses of Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine delivered and administered to Canadians.

covid19tracker.ca

Weekly national reconciliation government reports released every Saturday to be 1 week behind real time.

COVID-19 vaccination coverage in Canada - Canada.ca

COVID-19 vaccination coverage across Canada by demographics and key populations. Updated every Friday at 12:00 PM Eastern Time.

health-infobase.canada.ca

 

[davesnothere]

WA has become the first State to introduce a vaccine passport of sorts for people from NSW entering WA. Arrivals from NSW will have to show evidence of at least one COVID vaccination jab. Mark McGowan hopes the new regime will be a blueprint for other States.

If the other States follow it will put real pressure on Berejiklian to lift her game. NSW will be seen as a leper colony.

I think Nicola Spurrier for one will be watching this very closely.

I think that and effective control of cases in your state of origin. NSW currently has 2000 cases that haven't been investigated yet. That's how far behind the eight ball contract tracers are. It could be you are only a 30% chance of spreading the virus once vaxxed but if the virus is out of control as it is in NSW you are an unacceptable risk. Brisbane would probably be ok?

 

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

Talk is gladys will let those fully vaccinated into pubs and clubs within weeks while there are still active cases. Doesn't she realise some people fully vaccinated will still be able to spread the virus.
I can see cases into the 1000's daily in nsw leading into xmas

The world has got to get to grips that we will be living with Covid for a very long time. We need to start learning to live with it somehow.


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[dirty2]

The world has got to get to grips that we will be living with Covid for a very long time. We need to start learning to live with it somehow.


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We have got lucky in Australia so far... But at some stage the flood gates are going to open... (If they haven't yet NSW) and we all by the end of this will be touched by covid in one way or another.

 

[PAFC66]

Iceland is locking down with 70% Vax rates.
NSW won't Vax their way out of this outbreak for a long time.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

WA has become the first State to introduce a vaccine passport of sorts for people from NSW entering WA. Arrivals from NSW will have to show evidence of at least one COVID vaccination jab. Mark McGowan hopes the new regime will be a blueprint for other States.

If the other States follow it will put real pressure on Berejiklian to lift her game. NSW will be seen as a leper colony.

I think Nicola Spurrier for one will be watching this very closely.

It doesn't put pressure on Gladys to lift her game. It actually reduces the pressure, as WA moves from blocking everyone to allowing partially/fully vaxxed people in.
They no longer need to get control of their spreading infections for citizens to be able to access WA (and other states if they follow suit).

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Expected numbers NSW if the current trend continues:
day cases 68% range

Sat: 405 346—469
Sun: 425 356—503
Mon: 448 367—538
Tue: 468 377—575
Wed: 491 387—612
Thu: 511 399—652
Fri: 535 408—694

 

[Power Raid]

We have a long way to go to get the public ready for "living with Covid"

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[Power Raid]

ACT and Tassie leading the way



well done guys

meanwhile anyone can walk up and get vaxxed in WA as there is more supply than demand......and has been for months

 

[OneGreatClub]

So Scott Morrison says that businesses that don’t mandate vaccinations for their staff will have legal protections.
I personally will frequent and support businesses with a vaccine mandate.

 

[raptalia]

The world has got to get to grips that we will be living with Covid for a very long time. We need to start learning to live with it somehow.


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Learning to live with it yes, but there is some science attached to it. The Doherty Institute says 80% vaccination is the target while Gladys says 50% is OK. Who do you think is likely to be correct?

 

[Capital Power]

So Scott Morrison says that businesses that don’t mandate vaccinations for their staff will have legal protections.
I personally will frequent and support businesses with a vaccine mandate.

As will I, unless they're Harvey Norman.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I guess this logic falls down when it's simultaneously socially acceptable to religiously vilify a Christian but socially unacceptable to religiously vilify a Muslim.

Yeah those poor Christians really have it tough.

How many Muslim Prime Ministers have we had, out of interest?

 

[glitch01]

Given that you seemingly can now just walk out of secure quarantine I’ve revisited my estimate of when I’m likely to get home from 2023 to 2024.
Is there any chance ScoMo and crew could maybe get their shit together?


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[OneGreatClub]

Purposeful misrepresentation of facts does seem to suck quite a few in.

This Woman Secretly Runs One of the World's Biggest Anti-Vax Websites From Her House

By presenting unverified data as fact, OpenVAERS has become one of the most powerful tools in the anti-vaxxer community.

www.vice.com

 

[Marat]

So Paul Kelly, Chief Medical Officer, has come out and said that Gladys is doing everything right and comparable with what was done in Victoria last year. So those dissing Gladys, do what you say we all should do, take note of the views of the medical experts, and pull your heads in!

 

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

We have got lucky in Australia so far... But at some stage the flood gates are going to open... (If they haven't yet NSW) and we all by the end of this will be touched by covid in one way or another.

Unfortunately


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[Power Girl]

I guess this logic falls down when it's simultaneously socially acceptable to religiously vilify a Christian but socially unacceptable to religiously vilify a Muslim.

You know who is usually vilifying the Muslims? The Christians! and vice versa

 

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

Learning to live with it yes, but there is some science attached to it. The Doherty Institute says 80% vaccination is the target while Gladys says 50% is OK. Who do you think is likely to be correct?

80+, but we won’t really know until a few years of research.


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[FishingRick04]

80+, but we won’t really know until a few years of research.


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careful using that timeline in here. Data is already solid apparently