Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[No SPIN]

Essentially those who go to the World Economic Forum.

Its very China centric however in the concept of they need that slave labour badly to get where they want to be.

More misinformation - the days of China slave labour are gone - monthly wages have almost quadrupled since 2007

China Minimum Monthly Wages

Minimum Wages in China remained unchanged at 2590 CNY/Month in 2024 from 2590 CNY/Month in 2023. This page provides - China Minimum Wages- actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news.

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[M Malice]

You would have to have a unifying theory, as to how such disperate groups are motivated by some common cause towards releasing a Pandemic, given they they don't all win.

Oil industry has been decimated (https://www.worldoil.com/news/2020/...r-loss-as-covid-19-destroys-global-oil-demand ) while Big Tech has benefitted - this is in my view the biggest issue with the ONE "THEY" theory.
And without ONE "THEY" - there can't be a Conspiracy theory

Again, I have never said "they" released Covid just taking advantage of it. The fossil fuel industry is diversifying and most will be sweet, if they do get in real trouble I expect bail outs/compensation/tax breaks ah la 2008.

Compartmentalization is your friend. Do you really think the likes of Trump/Biden/Bush/Obama were/are setting agendas and running USA policy, politics is nothing more than a dog and pony show distraction, 2 sides to the same coin.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

More misinformation - the days of China slave labour are gone - monthly wages have almost quadrupled since 2007

China Minimum Monthly Wages

Minimum Wages in China remained unchanged at 2590 CNY/Month in 2024 from 2590 CNY/Month in 2023. This page provides - China Minimum Wages- actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news.

tradingeconomics.com

Another pro China person? Assuming the company you work for is heavily reliant on Chinese money so you want to protect the interests for your own job security?

Maybe we can talk about this

Xinjiang: more than half a million forced to pick cotton, report suggests

Forced labour much more widespread than initially thought in China region that supplies a fifth of the world’s cotton

www.theguardian.com

H&M got wiped off the map in China after cancelling its cotton orders with those who have ties to this child labour camp

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Again, I have never said "they" released Covid just taking advantage of it. The fossil fuel industry is diversifying and most will be sweet, if they do get in real trouble I expect bail outs/compensation/tax breaks ah la 2008.

Compartmentalization is your friend. Do you really think the likes of Trump/Biden/Bush/Obama were/are setting agendas and running USA policy, politics is nothing more than a dog and pony show distraction, 2 sides to the same coin.

They released it by hiding it moreso then creating it you will find. It most likely naturally occured but was released by China trying to hide its issue for sure

 

[No SPIN]

Another pro China person? Assuming the company you work for is heavily reliant on Chinese money so you want to protect the interests for your own job security?

Maybe we can talk about this

Cotton group’s China branch challenges Xinjiang forced labour claims

State media tries to highlight rift as Beijing seeks to challenge claims of human rights abuses in region.

www.scmp.com

H&M got wiped off the map in China after cancelling its cotton orders with those who have ties to this child labour camp

I again proved your statement was wrong with FACTS. You continue to be uninformed on all issues we have debated.
Exposing your ignorance on labor costs in China and in doing so, you then accuse me of being Pro China, is just laughable.
The Facts are the facts sport.

 

[No SPIN]

They released it by hiding it moreso then creating it you will find. It most likely naturally occured but was released by China trying to hide its issue for sure

They released it by hiding it moreso then creating it you will find. It most likely naturally occured but was released by China trying to hide its issue for sure

I’m still waiting for your big revelation of how China will benefit from releasing the Virus on the World.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I again proved your statement was wrong with FACTS. You continue to be uninformed on all issues we have debated.
Exposing your ignorance on labor costs in China and in doing so, you then accuse me of being Pro China, is just laughable.
The Facts are the facts sport.

You said Chinese dont use forced labour anymore, I send you a link to what is the biggest trade story in the world depicting it at the moment and you flat out refuse to acknowledge its content instead going on a random spiel unrelated to it.

Nice.

 

[No SPIN]

You said Chinese dont use forced labour anymore, I send you a link to what is the biggest trade story in the world depicting it at the moment and you flat out refuse to acknowledge its content instead going on a random spiel unrelated to it.

Nice.

rubbish - i was responding to your point about slave labour ( cheap labour) and Workd Economic Forums support of China accordingly, and thats why I provided the stats showing wages had quadrupled.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I’m still waiting for your big revelation of how China will benefit from releasing the Virus on the World.

2020 GDP Growth rates

Top 15 Countries by GDP in 2024 | Global PEO Services

Understanding the global economic landscape helps prepare for global expansion. Here is a list of the top 15 countries by GDP in 2024.

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Who is number 1?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

rubbish - i was responding to your point about slave labour and Workd Economic Forum in the context of cheap labour and thats why I provided the stats.

The problem with believing everything China says is you have to close your eyes, block your ears and completely avoid reality. Other then that its easily done

 

[No SPIN]

2020 GDP Growth rates

Top 15 Countries by GDP in 2024 | Global PEO Services

Understanding the global economic landscape helps prepare for global expansion. Here is a list of the top 15 countries by GDP in 2024.

globalpeoservices.com

Who is number 1?

Wow - just wow.
I think you are destined to be a powerful and formidable proponent for any cause given the sophistication with which you support a point of view.

I can only sit here and chuckle at your naïveté- China has been the fastest growing Economy for at least the last 20 years. They didn’t need a Pandemic to achieve that.

 

[No SPIN]

The problem with believing everything China says is you have to close your eyes, block your ears and completely avoid reality. Other then that its easily done

you’re struggling mate.
The Facts I keep exposing you with have got nothing to do with believing China.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Wow - just wow.
I think you are destined to be a powerful and formidable proponent for any cause given the sophistication with which you support a point of view.

I can only sit here and chuckle at your naïveté- China has been the fastest growing Economy for at least the last 20 years. They didn’t need a Pandemic to achieve that.

Its the biggest differential in 20 years?

 

[No SPIN]

Its the biggest differential in 20 years?

Ok - mate

There’s an old saying that is quite appropriate for you.
“ Better to be silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt”

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Ok - mate

There’s an old saying that is quite appropriate for you.
“ Better to be silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt”

Its better to ignore the evidence and live in a state of ignorance then it is to accept reality and realise the worlds not filled with sunshine

 

[No SPIN]

Its better to ignore the evidence and live in a state of ignorance then it is to accept reality and realise the worlds not filled with sunshine

you haven’t offered evidence - you offered opinions that have been eviscerated by facts.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Jesus bloody Christ, I'm having a read around the traps and there are people out there who believe that once they get the vaccine they will never ever get sick again. They are convinced it's the magic potion and all illness will just vanish. These are the people who will have mental breakdowns when they do get sick as to how it could possibly happen.

This is going to be the real popcorn eating action to view.

 

[twotooto]

Whether you think the virus was engineered and deliberately released(and by who) with nefarious intent is one thing - and a fair question IMO - but what ever your thoughts on the virus's origins etc, it's a certainty that we are never going back to how things were pre-COVID.

'The Great Reset' is a thing but to be fair, there was a reset, or a revolution - as in The Fourth Industrial Revolution - taking place long before COVID came along. It's just that COVID has and will significantly accelerate this so-called revolution.

I think, in some ways, a re-configuring of how we go about things did need to happen. And the question of how this 'New Normal' will manifest is a valid one. As is/are will these changes be for better or for worse? Will they improve society or will they be to our detriment?

History says a resounding no. I also think you can have questions and concerns about how things are unfolding without necessarily being a conspiracist.

At the very least this whole saga has been full of genuinely bewildering moments that seem to make zero sense. I honestly do not know how anyone could not have questions about what the actual **** is going on and about how it has all been handled.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Jesus bloody Christ, I'm having a read around the traps and there are people out there who believe that once they get the vaccine they will never ever get sick again. They are convinced it's the magic potion and all illness will just vanish. These are the people who will have mental breakdowns when they do get sick as to how it could possibly happen.

This is going to be the real popcorn eating action to view.

Vaccines are supposed to be very effective at stopping major illness and massively reducing hospitalisation

 

[No SPIN]

Whether you think the virus was engineered and deliberately released(and by who) with nefarious intent is one thing - and a fair question IMO - but what ever your thoughts on the virus's origins etc, it's a certainty that we are never going back to how things were pre-COVID.

'The Great Reset' is a thing but to be fair, there was a reset, or a revolution - as in The Fourth Industrial Revolution - taking place long before COVID came along. It's just that COVID has and will significantly accelerated this so-called revolution.

I think, in some ways, a re-configuring of how we go about things did need to happen. And the question of how this 'New Normal' will manifest is a valid one. As is/are will these changes be for better or for worse? Will they improve society or will they be to our detriment?

History says a resounding no. I also think you can have questions and concerns about how things are unfolding without necessarily being a conspiracist.

At the very least this whole saga has been full of genuinely bewildering moments that seem to make zero sense. I honestly do not know how anyone could not have questions about what the actual fu** is going on and about how it has all been handled.

Agree - how it’s being handled is the real concern.
We’ve dropped the lockdown hurdle rate so low it’s hard to see how long lockdowns can be avoided as we move into the cooler months.
We spent $1.5 bill on 4000 ICU beds in Vic and never used more that 200, so far far less cases than were predicted.
And yet we locked down on Valentine’s Day with 1 active cases - just flagrant stupidity.
The paranoia around the UK strain which still hasn’t caused a death here is just bewildering.

 

[Bender20]

Jesus bloody Christ, I'm having a read around the traps and there are people out there who believe that once they get the vaccine they will never ever get sick again. They are convinced it's the magic potion and all illness will just vanish. These are the people who will have mental breakdowns when they do get sick as to how it could possibly happen.

This is going to be the real popcorn eating action to view.

It all comes down to understanding.

To get a better grasp on the pcr tests i read the peer reviewed analysis last night (what an eye opener). Gain knowledge and understand, create your own opinion.

Someone mentioned to me a few weeks ago that everything will be back to normal by September once we're vaccinated, my barber said the same. I nearly fell over. I seriously looked at him and said are you kidding.

 

[Bender20]

Vaccines are supposed to be very effective at stopping major illness and massively reducing hospitalisation

Can I just ask.
Do you know how they came to that conclusion?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Can I just ask.
Do you know how they came to that conclusion?

Mainly stats from vaxed people in Israel and UK

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

It all comes down to understanding.

To get a better grasp on the pcr tests i read the peer reviewed analysis last night (what an eye opener). Gain knowledge and understand, create your own opinion.

Someone mentioned to me a few weeks ago that everything will be back to normal by September once we're vaccinated, my barber said the same. I nearly fell over. I seriously looked at him and said are you kidding.

These people aren't factoring in the reality that a significant number of people are not going to be vaccinated because they are going to choose not to. I know many people who are not interested in taking a rushed vaccine for something with a 99% recovery rate. This includes people that were happy to wear a mask and went along with a lock down but the vaccination is a step too far. I can then see the clowns in govt and health depts saying, "Well we have to lock down again because only X% have had the vaccine" and on it goes. Not to mention they can move the goal posts again, "Oh the vaccine wasn't as good as we expected, wear your mask etc.".

The only way to end this is do not comply.

 

[Bender20]

Mainly stats from vaxed people in Israel and UK

Based on the initial tests or real life tests?