Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

Thoughts on COVID-19? (Choose 2 options)

  • It's a naturally occurring virus

    Votes: 15 20.3%
  • It came from a Chinese laboratory

    Votes: 31 41.9%
  • It came from a US/other laboratory

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • It's dangerous and harsh restrictions are necessary

    Votes: 19 25.7%
  • It's not dangerous enough to warrant harsh restrictions

    Votes: 22 29.7%
  • It's basically another flu, so restrictions are silly

    Votes: 14 18.9%

  • Total voters
    74

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Year after year deaths are seasonal always increasing in the winter time, and up to when the vaccines started all deaths where normal to any other year, where is the pandemic he said.
Then the vaccination roll out started and the numbers of death that occured have never been seen before, ever.
Straight away he knew it must be the vaccines.

 
The latest update on the age website has the list of exposure sites at over 70. Decent chance a lockdown will happen.

Rumours that I think might be credible are that Doncaster Shopping Town is to be listed an exposure site and that we'll be going in to lockdown Friday.

It's regional as well, Ballarat, Bendigo and Cohuna. Basically, we've been surrounded in about four days.
 
Rumours that I think might be credible are that Doncaster Shopping Town is to be listed an exposure site and that we'll be going in to lockdown Friday.

It's regional as well, Ballarat, Bendigo and Cohuna. Basically, we've been surrounded in about four days.
If that's the case then it's inevitable. It'll be very interesting to see how this is handled without the luxury of job keeper payments.
 
If that's the case then it's inevitable. It'll be very interesting to see how this is handled without the luxury of job keeper payments.

I'm seeing a five day lockdown but that might just be the start. The contact tracers are going to need longer than that imo, it's scattered all over Victoria and one person went on a pub/club crawl lol didn't leave the last one until 4.30am.
 
I'm seeing a five day lockdown but that might just be the start. The contact tracers are going to need longer than that imo, it's scattered all over Victoria and one person went on a pub/club crawl lol didn't leave the last one until 4.30am.
What I don't understand is what a short lockdown achieves if the incubation period can be 14 days and beyond. Aside from given contact tracers time, I can't see the merit in it.
 
I'm cynical and resentful.

If we were a bit more efficient rolling the vaccine out to whoever was willing, we could relax a bit. There isn't even much point right now arguing with anybody who qualifies for the preferred shot Pfizer but doesn't want that either because faik it isn't even available yet. By the time it is, the numbers who have had the AZ jab will have climbed a lot higher and it won't be as urgent.

As it is now, less then 2% have been fully immunised and under 12% have had the first. We're way behind.
 

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There's three main tests they can use faik, PCR is one of them and in laymans terms it counts how many times the virus has replicated. How many particles of the virus genetic material is present.

There's a lot of studies been done on the role viral load plays in diganosis and the management of treatment, not as much on covid yet because it's so new.

After an individual is first infected with COVID-19, the virus starts replicating inside cells and then infects more cells. Viral load is a measure of the total number of viral particles inside the individual. The more replications that have occurred, the higher the viral load.

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PCR replicates DNA and according to the interview with it's inventor, (posted Sunday) Mullis quoted "PCR is designed to find almost anything in anybody, never designed to tell you if you were sick, or anything like that." Even Fauci admits that If replications of the PCR test are performed above 35 or more, all you are finding is dead nucleotides.

The summary of research I linked from the BMJ "The only test for live virus is viral culture."

"PCR and lateral flow tests do not distinguish live virus. No test of infection or infectiousness is currently available for routine use."

"As things stand, a person who tests positive with any kind of test may or may not have an active infection with live virus, and may or may not be infectious."

"In a recent systematic review, no study was able to culture live virus from symptomatic participants after the ninth day of illness, despite persistently high viral loads in quantitative PCR diagnostic tests. However, cycle threshold (Ct) values from PCR tests are not direct measures of viral load and are subject to error."

"While viral load seems to be similar in people with and without symptoms, the presence of RNA does not necessarily represent transmissible live virus."
 
The latest update on the age website has the list of exposure sites at over 70. Decent chance a lockdown will happen.
No way 15 so called sick people went to that many places, i don't care what anyone says. They are just listing anything and everything close contacts went too as well IMO regardless of result. Out of control madness to put it bluntly.
 
No way 15 so called sick people went to that many places, i don't care what anyone says. They are just listing anything and everything close contacts went too as well IMO regardless of result. Out of control madness to put it bluntly.
That's because they're not sick. They may be called "asymptomatic", which meta analysis of nearly 78,000 subjects show, statistically won't transmit virus.

In reality they've used PCR with too higher replication cycles.

COVID injections the missing link?

Just dial down the cycles to 28 and just like that ....
 
That’s only 5 places each. Doesn’t seem unreasonable.
If you're not sick, it seems reasonable.

But the Rona is nasty and will knock you out for at least three or four days. The younger you are the less effect it should have, but it would be very difficult even for an 18 year old not to know they have something serious.
 
If you're not sick, it seems reasonable.

But the Rona is nasty and will knock you out for at least three or four days. The younger you are the less effect it should have, but it would be very difficult even for an 18 year old not to know they have something serious.

Yeah, I guess. From what I’ve seen the symptoms vary quite a bit.

Still, to me the panic over 15 cases is almost laughable. But that’s the situation people have been put in and I feel for them.
 
I don't think I contradict myself. I read all the covid threads, I like to hear all the views. Some posts make perfect sense to me, others not so much, in all the threads.
Fair play. I'm pretty sure I remember you arguing with one of the regulars of this thread over something and I must've stupidly pigeonholed you.
 
It's just till we flatten the curve
It's just so other states open
It's just till we get cases down
It's just till we control the latest variation
It's just till the vaccine role out.

How long till this is permanent? If people don't see it now they never will.
Bit like the bit on the side who waits for their husband/wife to divorce. Hint it aint happening
 
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