Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[Run n Spread]

These guys were peacefully walking home when cops trapped them.

What threat were they posing exactly?
But I suppose the covid cheer leaders happily sheer on the loss of legal protection as well.

Also what is the pink tag on the Police Uniforms? Never scene it before and it is not part of their day to day uniforms.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Covid: Why has Seychelles seen rising case numbers?

It's the most vaccinated country in the world, but infections have risen in the island nation.

www.bbc.com

Dont ignore it, explain it

I wouldn't bother to waste my time

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I wouldn't bother to waste my time

Weakest response I’ve seen in this thread

Domt even have the courage to defend yourself. No wonder a virus scares you senseless

 

[Catfish Alley]

Where is the line indicating when COVID injections started?

Not there. But they started in April for general population.

 

[BlueE]

The flu can be devastating! in 2017 during the big flu outbreaks I copped it 3 times severely! At one point my throat was so swallow I couldn't even talk and was that weak I couldn't even get out of bed some days. I copped it again pretty bad in late 2019 took me two weeks to get my voice back! Both years I was vaxxed with the flu shot.

No doubt everyone, even the big corporations will be feeling the pinch, there isn't an endless stream of money pits something is gonna give sooner or later. I'm not an economist but our kids today and future generations will be paying for these lockdowns its gonna get real hard for them to secure jobs buy houses and goods, inflation and taxes will go up the Government need to recoup their losses too. Our kids would be wise not to spend as much as we do today and be more proactive in saving. But then again we do get sucked in to big advertising campaigns and slogans so who the fu** knows.

2017 was our worst flu year on record and from memory had over 1200 deaths with flu injections available compared with 908 COVID in 2020.

More interestly, flu + pneumonia in 2017 had 2000 LESS deaths than COVID +flu+ pneumonia in 2020.

Ps I also had that flu and didn't have the injection but it was given at my workplace and many people did that also got sick. That flu was bad, but not as bad as the nasty colds that went around Perth last year and after March this year, both of which I got as well.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Weakest response I’ve seen in this thread

Domt even have the courage to defend yourself. No wonder a virus scares you senseless

Not scared at all. There's plenty of information out there to suggest why the vaccines haven't worked in Seychelles. Not hard for you to find it yourself but it's another step all together for you to actually believe any of it which is why i said i'm not wasting my time.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

2017 was our worst flu year on record and from memory had over 1200 deaths with flu injections available compared with 908 COVID in 2020.

More interestly, flu + pneumonia in 2017 had 2000 LESS deaths than COVID +flu+ pneumonia in 2020.

Ps I also had that flu and didn't have the injection but it was given at my workplace and many people did that also got sick. That flu was bad, but not as bad as the nasty colds that went around Perth last year and after March this year, both of which I got as well.

Poor comparison. Most of 2020 was spent in lockdowns. No lockdowns in 2017. So if you want to make a direct comparison between the severity of covid vs flu, tell us how many flu deaths there were in 2020.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Not scared at all. There's plenty of information out there to suggest why the vaccines haven't worked in Seychelles. Not hard for you to find it yourself but it's another step all together for you to actually believe any of it which is why i said i'm not wasting my time.

I asked for your opinion, not Waleed Alys

What is YOUR opinion on why it hasn’t worked

 

[Tiger Toffee]

In W.A 87% of people support the hard borders

30% of people want the hard border to exist forever and post Covid

More like..................

In W.A 87% of the people we carefully selected to take part in this survey support hard borders.

Have you ever had a phone call asking what you think of a particular political party or the issue of the month, give a favourable response and they will add you to yes group ie: 87%
give a negative response and they will never call you back.

 

[Run n Spread]

Haven’t engaged in this thread at all.

What’s the general consensus here?

A) people believe it is real

B) people believe it is real, but exaggerated by the fake media.

C) people believe that it is just a hoax.

This is a bigger scam than 9/11. That’s my position.

b and c. Real in the sense of being a mild to serious flu like illness. But blown out of proportion to clearly push an agenda.
Who is benefiting is the big question?

Think how rapidly things have changed. A lockdown of a population has never happened before and never been a policy. A perfectly good pandemic plan updated in 2019 has been junked. You now have people cheering on lockdowns, loss of movement and free speech. Literally cheering the breakdown of Democratic freedoms we've taken for granted. (Maybe that's the problem).

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I asked for your opinion, not Waleed Alys

What is YOUR opinion

I can only go by the information I have read. I am not qualified to have MY OWN opinion. Are you?

 

[BlueE]

That didn’t really make sense from what I know either. Here’s our latest. Vaccinations have certainly had an impact:

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Cases after COVID injections could be many times higher if testers complied with the recommendations that PCR replication cycles be set at 28, when most counrtires had them at 38-40 which as explained many times will find also most anything, including death nucleotides not related to active COVID cases.

British Columbia: Phase One late Dec 2020 to Feb 2021

• Residents and staff of long-term care facilities
• Individuals assessed for and awaiting long-term care
• Residents and staff of assisted living residences
• Essential visitors to long-term care facilities and assisted living residences
• Hospital health care workers who may provide care for COVID-19 patients in settings like Intensive Care Units, emergency departments, paramedics, medical units and surgical units
• Remote and isolated Indigenous communities

Phase Two: Feb to April 2021

• Seniors born in 1941 or earlier not immunized in Phase 1
• Indigenous (First Nations, Métis and Inuit) peoples born in 1956 or earlier, Elders and additional Indigenous communities not immunized in Phase 1

Priority groups

• Hospital staff, community general practitioners (GPs) and medical specialists not immunized in Phase 1
• Vulnerable populations living and working in select congregated settings
• Staff in community home support and nursing services

 

[Catfish Alley]

Cases after COVID injections could be many times higher if testers complied with the recommendations that PCR replication cycles be set at 28, when most counrtires had them at 38-40 which as explained many times will find also most anything, including death nucleotides not related to active COVID cases.

British Columbia: Phase One late Dec 2020 to Feb 2021

• Residents and staff of long-term care facilities
• Individuals assessed for and awaiting long-term care
• Residents and staff of assisted living residences
• Essential visitors to long-term care facilities and assisted living residences
• Hospital health care workers who may provide care for COVID-19 patients in settings like Intensive Care Units, emergency departments, paramedics, medical units and surgical units
• Remote and isolated Indigenous communities

Phase Two: Feb to April 2021

• Seniors born in 1941 or earlier not immunized in Phase 1
• Indigenous (First Nations, Métis and Inuit) peoples born in 1956 or earlier, Elders and additional Indigenous communities not immunized in Phase 1

Priority groups

• Hospital staff, community general practitioners (GPs) and medical specialists not immunized in Phase 1
• Vulnerable populations living and working in select congregated settings
• Staff in community home support and nursing services

So you’re saying they got it wrong and restrictions should be back?? Hope not!

 

[BlueE]

So you’re saying they got it wrong and restrictions should be back?? Hope not!

No I'm saying the injections shed and people around them can get sick with another "variant", although it's different enough not to be a variant.

Personal experience (and 4 or 5 other close contacts) as well from being close to someone that had the Pfizer early March.

 

[Kurve]

No I'm saying the injections shed and people around them can get sick with another "variant", although it's different enough not to be a variant.

Personal experience (and 4 or 5 other close contacts) as well from being close to someone that had the Pfizer early March.

That's only a theoretical possibility though? Post vaccine, RNA has been found to shed in the toilet for example but that RNA is of the weakened / attentuated virus that doesn't cause illness .. yes?

 

[No SPIN]

I've posted the peer reviewed research showing the potential pathways that you ordered me to do, and that many experts have posted worries about, which you say you've defiantly proved can't exist. But you ignore that and all graphs posted with correlations between COVID injections and increase in COVID deaths because it doesn't match your preconceived ideas you profess, without evidence.

Take it up with them and the many doctors who've called the COIVID injections genetically manipulations, I've only agreed with Gate's definition of injections containing genetically modified organisms.

My message from the start has been clear as there have been no medium or long term studies completed or reported on, with theoretical biological pathways, the medium or long term effect on humans is unknown!!

Lastly the claims that SARS CoV 2 originated in WIT have been made for over a year and follow many published papers from 2012 onward, of the same researchers from Nth Carolina to Wuhan.

MSM are starting to follow the claims that the "symptoms of the miner's virus in 2012 closely resembled those of Covid-19,' Dr Latham wrote. He suspects a 'cover-up' by the Chinese because this is the only research paper that he has been able to find that mentions the 2012 outbreak that killed the miners."

Nine viruses are reported to have been found and were sent to WIV for analysis.

One of the viruses, originating from the anus of a horseshoe bat, was given the name RaTG13 by Dr Shi. RaTG13 is a 96.2 per cent match for SARS-CoV-2 (the cause of Covid-19), which makes it ten to 15 mutations away from the Covid-19 virus, and by far its genetically closest relative.

According to Latham, the answer to the pandemic 'whodunnit' may lie in the Wuhan Institute's collaboration with the EcoHealth Alliance, a U.S. government-funded science group run by a British scientist, Dr Peter Daszak, which for several years had financially backed the WIV in its hunt for new viruses in a bid to better predict emerging diseases.

Chinese virologist Li-Meng Yan alleges that RaTG13 was genetically modified for use in what is known as 'gain of function' experiments.

This allows virus sequences to be combined, thereby adding to their virulence or enabling whole new viruses to be developed. 'The WIV and the EcoHealth Alliance have not shared what is apparently in their own freezers and databases,' says Latham.

Such work is controversial, often done in secret, and known to be used by the military.

Is this finally proof Covid DID leak from Wuhan lab?

The Wall Street Journal covered a report claiming three researchers from the the Wuhan Institute of Virology were hospitalised in November 2019 with symptoms 'consistent with Covid-19'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

please stop - you have never posted a single paper discussing the possibility of PERMANENT Genetic change with mRNA Vaccines.
You’ve posted a TEMPORARY mechanism that occurs with the WHOLE Virus but the mRNA Vaccines don’t contain the whole virus.
You are exposed as saying “ Correlation is not causation” in relation to the graphs - and now want to double down with LESS evidence that the correlation is true.
Just rubbish and bluff. Especially when I’ve also made the point increased testing and onset of Winter are far stronger reason for increase in cases.

And I’m still waiting for an explanation why with 3.6 million doses administered in Australia, we’ve had no surge in cases.
Clearly there’s no correlation and your insistence to the contrary reinforces you have no credibility.

So please move on from your naive propaganda- you’re not fooling anyone.

 

[No SPIN]

That's only a theoretical possibility though? Post vaccine, RNA has been found to shed in the toilet for example but that RNA is of the weakened / attentuated virus that doesn't cause illness .. yes?

some of the shed virus will be dead correct. The only way to check, is to take a stool sample and see if you can culture live Virus.

 

[zill]

Aged care worker who had the jab has been confirmed already

If you are referring to the aged care resident worker, they have only had the first jab. It is on record and common knowledge i would have thought, that you are only considered fully vaccinated a few weeks after your second jab.

It's called a mystery case because it isn't linked to the other dozen or so cases. They don't know where she caught it from. Given the track record of the contact tracers i expect this latest lockdown to last longer than the advertised week. The AFL is already making plans for the vic clubs to play their games interstate.

 

[zill]

"Were peacefully walking home"

Yeah right. Were "peacefully" walking home but when confronted by police they all of a sudden decided to charge at them....

Did you even watch the video? The police attacked the guy at the front of the group, the rest reacted to that.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Did you even watch the video? The police attacked the guy at the front of the group, the rest reacted to that.

They got what they deserved

 

[Better Loosen Up]

It's called a mystery case because it isn't linked to the other dozen or so cases. They don't know where she caught it from. Given the track record of the contact tracers i expect this latest lockdown to last longer than the advertised week. The AFL is already making plans for the vic clubs to play their games interstate.

This is nothing to do with the point i was making

 

[zill]

This is nothing to do with the point i was making

You missed the point i was making. A single mystery case, and it was someone who had the jab. Did the jab lower their immune system to the point that they got covid when no one around them did?

 

[Run n Spread]

Here is what is dangerous about this whole thing.

Generally when you have an extremist movement there are hand breaks. Take an outright political or religious movement. It will naturally hit a speedbump when it hits non believers or in acquiring resources runs out or can't placate its followers. It's goals get murky. It loses support and leaves behind some very pissed off people.

Now this whole thing is about protecting people, not killing granny and keeping people safe. And who doesn't want that? But if we only have one grand narrative without challenge then there is nothing stopping this. The more extreme the measure the better. How far can you go to protect people? Do you want people to die? Go outside and people will die etc etc Now once this ties in with human identity (which is politics now) over who is the more saintly. So extreme police measures, loss of movement etc are cheered as part of the greater good. We are keeping people safe vs You anti vaxer conspiracy theorists etc.

Now moving on a year this is no longer about the initial threat or sensible public measures but the identity above. It is all about safety, being a good person, doing the right thing etc. And to be better and more saintly than anyone else the measures have to be more and more extreme. **** Democracy that means the idiots will be out and about. **** human Rights at a time like this (hint you can always conjure some emergency or crisis). **** protest that is dangerous misinformation (Also means don't challenge my identity about what a good person I am. If people saw these measures as unnecessary cognitive dissonance and disillusion set in) It explains why we managed 700 cases last year but lockdown over 1 ICU case now. Or managed the flu every other year.

Watch this change to other variants/diseases/any threats. It is who can be the best. Why sensible discussion and debate is now ignored. We are so ****ed. Eventually things turn but as you see with movements that can take up to half a century. With all the technology and power now things might be irredeemable by then.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Good to see so many smiling faces outside today. The muzzled sheep must feel as ridiculous as they look.

Not out my way, just had to go out and basically everyone was muzzled. In the supermarket and those walking out in the fresh air. Yep, they look ridiculous. Quite a few with them under their nose or chin mind you, so clearly not worried about catching a virus just can't bear not to conform.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

You missed the point i was making. A single mystery case, and it was someone who had the jab. Did the jab lower their immune system to the point that they got covid when no one around them did?

I think it's most likely they were infected by a source external to their workplace though they are still to test everyone else at the home and are still yet to complete the genomic testing which might show where it came from if nothing comes up in her interviews beforehand. I haven't heard anything about covid vaccines or any vaccine for that matter, weakening immune systems...