Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[Bumpswithagrin]

"Were peacefully walking home"

Yeah right. Were "peacefully" walking home but when confronted by police they all of a sudden decided to charge at them....
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I've seen the entire video, yes they were peacefully walking home. Police attacked when they thought the filming had stopped and the group had broken up.

 

[Bender20]

I think it's most likely they were infected by a source external to their workplace though they are still to test everyone else at the home and are still yet to complete the genomic testing which might show where it came from if nothing comes up in her interviews beforehand. I haven't heard anything about covid vaccines or any vaccine for that matter, weakening immune systems...

Incorrect, all vaccines have an initial impact on the immune system, its one of the discussions I use to have with the Fatherinlaw( immunologist).
There is a definite drop in the immune system returning to almost normal in 4 to 6 weeks.

 

[No SPIN]

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https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10....mJEXL2m790EUv5SbA0JeqFye4IBx2e214D87Y6Ykm_aZ8

More misinformation- you conveniently ignore that the paper says these components are NOT the same as in the Vaccine.
Do you ever read the stuff you post?

 

[zill]

Incorrect, all vaccines have an initial impact on the immune system, its one of the discussions I use to have with the Fatherinlaw( immunologist).
There is a definite drop in the immune system returning to almost normal in 4 to 6 weeks.

Im sure if the govt recommended self isolating from the time you get the first jab till 6 weeks after your second it would do wonders for uptake of the vax.

 

[Bender20]

Im sure if the govt recommended self isolating from the time you get the first jab till 6 weeks after your second it would do wonders for uptake of the vax.

While the virus is in the community definitely, its one of the reasons I believe there has been a significant rise in cases after the jab in countries like Israel the UK etc. Yet immunologists forget the basics and they are using peoples phone data to see if they increase movement after being jabbed, which is bonkers, basic immunology my friend.

 

[Kurve]

While the virus is in the community definitely, its one of the reasons I believe there has been a significant rise in cases after the jab in countries like Israel the UK etc. Yet immunologists forget the basics and they are using peoples phone data to see if they increase movement after being jabbed, which is bonkers, basic immunology my friend.

Why is that bonkers? If there's been a significant increase in some countries post jab, why wouldn't the experts attempt to gather any and all data they can to understand why?

 

[zill]

Yet immunologists forget the basics

Basics like never vaccinate during a pandemic? It could be the reason for the variations as well.

 

[Kurve]

basic immunology

* epidemiology

 

[Bender20]

Why is that bonkers? If there's been a significant increase in some countries post jab, why wouldn't the experts attempt to gather any and all data they can to understand why?

Yes there has been significant rises.

Here is the data, as it shows there is minimal behavioural change using data..

Using cell phone mobility data for 10% of the British population, linked to vaccination centres for February 2021, and difference-in-difference modelling that mimics a randomised control trial, we find that vaccinated users increase their mobility range compared to pre-vaccination mobility. It is only by a modest amount (218 metres) for the entire population, suggesting nearby contacts or visits.

There has been ignoring of the basic fundamentals of immunology, I'm not sure what they are trying to find or even hide, but they are getting paid well either way.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Yes there has been significant rises.

Here is the data, as it shows there is minimal behavioural change using data..

Using cell phone mobility data for 10% of the British population, linked to vaccination centres for February 2021, and difference-in-difference modelling that mimics a randomised control trial, we find that vaccinated users increase their mobility range compared to pre-vaccination mobility. It is only by a modest amount (218 metres) for the entire population, suggesting nearby contacts or visits.

There has been ignoring of the basic fundamentals of immunology, I'm not sure what they are trying to find or even hide, but they are getting paid well either way.

Thinking the vax makes you bullet proof is one of the threats
Just like opening up too early

 

[Kurve]

Yes there has been significant rises.

Here is the data, as it shows there is minimal behavioural change using data..

Using cell phone mobility data for 10% of the British population, linked to vaccination centres for February 2021, and difference-in-difference modelling that mimics a randomised control trial, we find that vaccinated users increase their mobility range compared to pre-vaccination mobility. It is only by a modest amount (218 metres) for the entire population, suggesting nearby contacts or visits.

There has been ignoring of the basic fundamentals of immunology, I'm not sure what they are trying to find or even hide, but they are getting paid well either way.

Do you have a link?

I think you mean epidemiology in this context.

 

[Bender20]

Do you have a link?

I think you mean epidemiology in this context.

Yes its a document uk government, once the games over ta

 

[Kurve]

Yes its a document uk government, once the games over ta

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It looks like this data may have been useful though even if I'm thinking atm that the surge of cases in the UK was largely contained to one area and was this new super duper strain?

 

[Bender20]

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It looks like this data may have been useful though even if I'm thinking atm that the surge of cases in the UK was largely contained to one area and was this new super duper strain?

 

[Bender20]

Do you have a link?

I think you mean epidemiology in this context.

No I was talking individual so its immunology, all good.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Incorrect, all vaccines have an initial impact on the immune system, its one of the discussions I use to have with the Fatherinlaw( immunologist).
There is a definite drop in the immune system returning to almost normal in 4 to 6 weeks.

I said i hadn't heard of that. Not that it didn't!!!!! So no, i wasn't incorrect. Sorry to rob you of your "gotcha" moment.

If what you say is true, then that's interesting to know. Thanks.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

This is a post on Facebook, but it won't let me post it on here so here is the text.

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"EXPOSING OUR MEDIA'S RECENT VENTILATOR LIE: One Day, One Victorian On a Ventilator, the Next Day, None!
Victoria's '7-day snap-lockdown' only exists because there was a need to coerce v8ccination.
General jab hesitancy and public disinterest created an urgent government need to counter-market; and thus, this lockdown serves primarily as a marketing drive for an otherwise undesirable Pharma product.
There is no "outbreak," no actual new cases, and certainly no "Indian double mutant strain." It was all meticulously preplanned - with every component strategically devised to ensure a successful psychological operation for public manipulation.
The unusual media fixation on an "infected case" that was traced to the 3 Monkeys bar on Chapel Street, was the scheming strategists giving an ironic and knowing nod to the film 12 Monkeys (about a killer virus) - and they are laughing at us.
People are not concerned about sore throats, sniffles, coughs and headaches, and most are accustomed and comfortable with the reality of seasonal flu-like symptoms for various viruses - but footage of humans inhumanely ventilated absolutely terrifies on a primal level.
It is the hellishly incapacitating ventilator (and all that is associated with the process) that has been cunningly used throughout the pandemic to give a mild virus a false sense of lethality and visceral terror. It should never have been used - and its very use is the true killer. Wherever it has been used - it has invariably slaughtered.
Covidlive. com.au provides a regularly updated statistical overview of all aspects relating to the pandemic in each Australian State (test numbers, case numbers, hospitalisation numbers, ICU numbers, ventilated numbers, etc)
The other day, the media delighted in revisiting the idea of the true medieval horror of hooking a human up to a ventilator - intubated, and comatose, as they battle 'a flu-like virus' while being fleeced a small fortune for the privilege of being slowly tortured to death... well, it so happens that there are now ZERO people in Melbourne's ICUs and not a single person on a ventilator, and not a single death since last year.
This obviously does not add up - and it reveals a tremendous media lie. A pre-scripted lie designed to purely terrorise. A lie authored to psychologically manipulate and to corral the susceptible herd toward the mass v8ccination pens.
No one wants to be on a ventilator!
It is almost a foregone conclusion that once the extensive ventilation process has commenced - the patient has a bleak 12-25% chance of survival.
You are not simply induced in a coma, intubated and force-oxygenated by a barbaric mechanical process that mortally stresses and scars the bronchi - only to wake up a day later, breathe easier, and laugh giddily at the whole ordeal.
You do not wake up - that is why so many died in New York City after they were devilishly tricked by the hospitals for a lucrative $39,000-per-ventilation!
Ventilation is ghoulish 'blood money' wherever in the world it has been deceptively sought, and earned.
So, this particular unnamed Victorian, who, a day earlier was assumedly walking around unaware that they even had C.OVID (and choking on a partially-chewed papadum is not a lungful of Indian double-mutant!); who then, after a positive test and a mere 24 hours later happens to find themselves dramatically on ventilator; and then, 24 hours after that - rises miraculously from the machine as if lovingly lifted on the delicate fingertips of angels?
Not a chance!
Clearly our 'mockingbird' media has been caught brazenly lying about 'one Victorian on a ventilator.'
They did this to amplify paranoia and fear.
Indeed, they lied about the ventilators during each lockdown - and they have again lied at the behest of our Pharma-entangled Government.
This is no minor lie. It is major and destructive criminal falsehood. It truly underpins and reveals the magnitude of the vast Pandemic Lie that must be desperately promoted against all assaults by truth and objective reality.
Acting Premier Merlino said, "they are not in a good way" when commenting on the one person in hospital in intensive care on a ventilator that helped spark the lockdown.
Despicable fiction.
Now that we know that there is no such person -- it should be easy to extrapolate that there is no such virus, no such outbreak; and that there was no such need to lockdown Victoria - other than the inexorable need that our government has to fulfil its Big Pharma contract.
V8ccination by medical experimentation and coercion is an established Crime Against Humanity punishable by death (according to the precedent set by the Nuremberg Trials written into the Nuremberg Code as a result of the Nazis scientists who pursued and conducted medical experiments by coercion).
This lockdown is a criminal act, perpetrated by a criminal government, pursuing a criminally coercive v8ccine agenda.
It is a lie, founded on lies - and it shall all ultimately collapse by the sheer weight of endlessly being propped-up against the opposing gravity of truth.
Let us continue to contribute to that weight.
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Various news articles on the 'one Victorian on a ventilator' are posted in the comments.
A link to covidlive has also been posted in the comments."

 

[Tiger Toffee]

LOL, some little 20 something pansy bloke thought he would mutter his opinion about me not wearing a mask, lets just say i didn't mutter back.

 

[Bender20]

Thinking the vax makes you bullet proof is one of the threats
Just like opening up too early

I'm glad you find interest.
You personally brought up the increase in contraction of covid 19 after vaccination in Israel, you sited the possibility of behavioural changes after vaccination and moving more freely through the community.

I'm just bringing a different perspective to your thinking.

We can both be wrong, either be right or both be right.

 

[Kurve]

Thinking the vax makes you bullet proof is one of the threats
Just like opening up too early

The document Bender posted is very interesting.

 

[BlueE]

That's only a theoretical possibility though? Post vaccine, RNA has been found to shed in the toilet for example but that RNA is of the weakened / attentuated virus that doesn't cause illness .. yes?

Theoretical, but I'm not sure if the "shedding" from a COVID injection is the same as dead nucleotides found in an asymptomatic COIVD positive.

Personal experience that it does cause illness. After close contact with the Pfizer recipient, with one of the worst colds ever, major sore throat, sneezes and runny nose for me and others down to a one year old. 22 year old begged to see Dr as something he's never experienced before. Was not tested for COVID and found positive for Rhinovirus.

Just more of the strange things that have been happening in Perth.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Look at this dunderhead and the language it uses?



"Younger ones move around more and unwittingly spread the virus"

No cautious or neutral wording and spoken as actual fact.

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

 

[zill]

This is a post on Facebook, but it won't let me post it on here so here is the text.

Ventilator is the absolute last resort, as in you are dying anyway may as well give it a shot. Interesting there are no follow up articles about the person in ICU, would like to know how they are doing given the slim chance of survival once on a ventilator.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Look at this dunderhead and the language it uses?



"Younger ones move around more and unwittingly spread the virus"

No cautious or neutral wording and spoken as actual fact.

No-one who is not sick is spreading anything. Who is writing her scripts?