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You're not getting COVID from a COVID jab, just as you aren't getting the flu from a flu jab. It's generating an immune response that makes your body feel unwell, but that's not COVID.
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I think the conversation about the 3rd dose will start after the race to get to the first
But it will happen
We've already ordered them for the next 2 years
A lot of the UK has already had the ronna nearly none of us have
I think we will look at Israel France US Germany etc
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Maybe. But the simplest explanation is usually the closest to the truth. The North/West is not unique in having large populations of 'diverse' communities, but multicultural communities in the South/East have managed (bar a few suburbs that funnily enough have a significant number of Muslim residents) to have a lot less covid cases. At some point you just have to stop making politically correct excuses and call bad behaviour out regardless of the fear of being labeled 'racist'.
Ironic that this is being directed at me since over the past 1 and a half years I've repeatedly stated that Disaster is only delaying the inevitable. I wouldn't have an issue for it spreading in the North/West of Melbourne if it wasn't for the little fact that the Victorian government is sending large swathes of small to mid-sized business to the wall in the South and East via draconian lockdown measures that people that reside in these areas are not to blame for, as well as inflicting other health related issues that lockdowns cause.
Disaster can to his heart's content lockdown the North/West for as long as he damn likes, just don't punish other parts Melbourne for the stupidity of the morons that live there. That's the gist of what I'm trying to get at.
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They are also looking at an even bigger death toll this coming winter than they had previously, so we need to see how firm they stand on not locking down. Once they go through another winter and Christmas season hugging it out they might all have been exposed and have that 6 to 13x better immunity than the vaccine.
Hopefully it doesn't get any worse and you end up as the ghost who walks.
at what cost?
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Oh great data coming out of Israel, I'll just take your word for it shall I?
What's the truth about masks?
You make a lot of broad claims that suit your agenda, throw in the odd insult or attack against anyone that doesn't agree with you and act like you're just being honest.
Of course I want people to get vaccinated, it's better than the alternative, for them and for me, why wouldn't I want that unless I was anti vaxx?
If I was happy to let people believe whatever they wanted you'd never see me posting asking where the information came from.
Where do you get this idea that there is a great public campaign to make people think the vaccine makes you immune to the virus?
They talk about efficacy against the disease and I've never seen any claims that its 100%, that you can't get covid if you're vaccinated or that you can't die.
I've seen multiple times it pointed out the best thing the vaccines do is seriously reduce your risk when it comes to severe covid, that's the primary driver, it reduces your chances of ending up in hospital with covid.
This idea you have been spouting that talking about breakthrough infections is someone akin to brainwashing people into getting the vaccine makes me question whether you actually think vaccination is a good idea.
So do you?
Hundreds of thousands of people suffering from long Covid in England may be struggling to access NHS clinics dedicated to treating the condition, figures suggest, with patients waiting up to six months for an appointment following a GP referral.
www.independent.co.uk
‘Only a fraction’ of long Covid sufferers able to access NHS support clinics
Exclusive: Patients denied care by some support centres, while others have reported never receiving a physical assessment under the overwhelmed service
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Hundreds of thousands of people suffering from long Covid in England may be struggling to access NHS clinics dedicated to treating the condition, figures suggest, with patients waiting up to six months for an appointment following a GP referral.
‘Only a fraction’ of long Covid sufferers able to access NHS support clinics
Exclusive: Patients denied care by some support centres, while others have reported never receiving a physical assessment under the overwhelmed service
They're only just starting to realise the impact of long covid over there I think. That so many have antibodies looks great but it took a lot of dead and very ill people to get there. What happens over the next winter will be real interesting.
At 1st September.
Antibodies against coronavirus (COVID-19)
The presence of antibodies to COVID-19 suggests that a person previously had the infection or has been vaccinated. In the week beginning 9 August 2021, the percentage of adults that would have tested positive for antibodies is estimated to be:
- 94.1% in England
- 92.0% in Wales
- 90.4% in Northern Ireland
- 93.6% in Scotland
Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics
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I'm already fully vaccinated. I have my little government issued certificate for it and everything. I needed to in order to visit my mother in law.
The truth about masks is that if you are sick you should wear one as it will reduce transmission to other people if you have to leave your isolation. These masks need to be changed regularly and if they are reusable need to be washed using special protocols.
If you're not sick then the mask will be far, far less effective at transmitting the virus because once the droplets are on your mask it's easier to breathe them in from it than it is to pass them out through it if you were infected.
Masks as a general protective measure are useful when you aren't sure if you're infected. They would be useful at stopping spread of infection if someone has been in a position to potentially have encountered the virus.
The story with masks thus far has been:
We should have a mask culture like Asian nations do, they seem to be handling the spread of covid well for some reason and we suspect it's the masks.
NO! Masks have no benefit and you don't need them.
(Actually we were lying to you so the medical field could retain PPE for it's use)
Masks for everyone!
Double masks are silly, there's no benefit to two.
Double masks are clearly better (Fauci "it just makes common sense")
Actually all of that was parroted by Fauci.
New digital border pass to tick off on overseas travel for vaccinated Australians
A new digital border pass that will collect travel and health information including people’s vaccination status will be introduced within months after an international IT firm was awarded the tender to automate the process of entering the country.
The Digital Passenger Declaration (DPD) will replace the physical Incoming Passenger Card and the digital COVID-19 Australian Travel Declaration form.
It will collect personal information including passengers’ vaccination status up to 72 hours before boarding and provide the digital authority for vaccinated Australians to travel.
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A new digital border pass that will collect travel and health information including people’s vaccination status will be introduced within months after an international IT firm was awarded the tender to automate the process of entering the country.
The Digital Passenger Declaration (DPD) will replace the physical Incoming Passenger Card and the digital COVID-19 Australian Travel Declaration form.
It will collect personal information including passengers’ vaccination status up to 72 hours before boarding and provide the digital authority for vaccinated Australians to travel.
SMH
Alabama guy needs an ICU bed for his heart and cant get into 43 hospitals because they are full of Ronna patients
www.theage.com.au
Alabama man dies after being turned away from 43 hospitals as COVID packs ICUs
Now the family of Ray DeMonia is urging those who remain unvaccinated to get immunised to help hospitals that have been pushed to their limits.
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Science | AAAS
Small sample size large %sScience | AAAS
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“The differences are huge,” says Thålin, although she cautions that the numbers for infections and other events analyzed for the comparisons were “small.”
For instance, the higher hospitalization rate in the 32,000-person analysis was based on just eight hospitalizations in a vaccinated group and one in a previously infected group.
And the 13-fold increased risk of infection in the same analysis was based on just 238 infections in the vaccinated population, less than 1.5% of the more than 16,000 people, versus 19 reinfections among a similar number of people who once had SARS-CoV-2.
The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.
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This further plays into my theory that we need to get as many people vaccinated and infected with covid as possible. Then we get actual resilient and persistent protection community wide.
If it needs to be sold as a not all heroes wear capes thing then offer to pay medically screened adults and children for two weeks staying at home while they recover from covid-19.
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