Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #3: Vaccines

Where do you stand with COVID-19 vaccines?

  • I've already been vaccinated (at least once)

    Votes: 24 27.6%
  • I intend to get vaccinated soon (first shot)

    Votes: 12 13.8%
  • I'll wait for more studies or doctor's advice

    Votes: 7 8.0%
  • I'll wait until old age or a safer vaccine

    Votes: 5 5.7%
  • I don't intend to get any Covid vaccine

    Votes: 39 44.8%

  • Total voters
    87

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Got that the wrong way around, you are the hypocrites. People that don't believe Covid caused deaths where there were co-morbidities are only applying the logic you people used used to point out your hypocrisy when it comes to the vaccine and subsequent deaths. You can't have it both ways.

There's a slight problem with your logic... evidence
 

So about that
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How can we ban our own facts? These are deaths within 3 days of having the injections. We'll end up denying any of them were from the COVID injections ... it's just a co-incidence!

I mean we already deny any of the deaths or adverse events in Europe!

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Yes. 2020 was the one and only year in the entire history and future of humanity when we could have solved world hunger. Nailed it.



More education for women tends to result in decreased birth rates; two birds, one stone.



Still running with this?



Unlikely.

Point 1 True. But didn't

2. Also true as they as should any human have the right to self determine.

3. Yep 1 country out of 200 had excess deaths 2020 compared to 2019.

4. Yeah. Most pro lockdown are happy to accept the beneficial trade offs of WFH against their losses while not understanding that it is a luxury most can't afford.
 

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Pointing out the real-life results of conspiracy theories is not celebrating.

"Just the flu"
No, you're not pointing out facts!

Actually not as bad as the flu, even when vulnerable were protected by flu injections in 2019 and 2017.

Around 1200 less died from pneumonia in 2020 than those years and around 1000 less died from pneumonia in 2020, against average of the last 5 years.

Not a coincidence that on direction from WHO;

If a patient succumbs to pneumonia and they’ve tested positive to COVID or even just had symptoms like;

• R05 Cough

• R06.02 Shortness of breath

• R50.9 Fever, unspecified

Or they’re asymptomatic, have no symptoms but have a positive test from a high cycle PCR and die of pneumonia, acute bronchitis or Lower respiratory infection,

assign code U07.1, COVID-19 as cause of death.
 
Sweden did the best example of nothing

Except they didn’t do nothing. That’s the point. It’s like when we were allowing people to quarantine at home but Australian’s were incapable of moderating their own behaviour. The Swedish instead were self moderating based off recommendations.

Even then, their government admitted it was wrojg

Do you think 30,000 covid deaths minus the decrease from that in co morbidites and other respiratatory illnesses is far off?

Yes. Also account for excess morbidity due to health system collapse if left to run unchecked through the community.

What would be your guestimate?

A bigger number.
 
That isn't really correct that they've done zero testing. The vaccines have gone through the same testing as they all do, they were fast tracked because funding was prioritised.
No these are experimental injections never before approved for humans (except experimental ebola) that haven't gone through comprehensive animal testing, did not challenge any of the test subjects with SARS CoV 2 and only selectively reported on safety and efficacy results, with Phase 3 results not due to be reported on until January 2023.

FOI requests have disclosed some of the Pfizer mice study results.

According to the documents, pre-clinical studies show that the active part of the vaccine (mRNA-lipid nanoparticles), which produce the spike protein, spreads throughout the body and is then concentrated in various organs, including the ovaries and spleen. The FOIA-produced data sets are incomplete, so the full meaning of these data cannot be determined at this time.

The full panel of industry-standard reproductive toxicity and genotoxicity studies were apparently also not performed.

Recently, there has been speculation regarding potential safety signals associated with COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. Many different unusual, prolonged, or delayed reactions have been reported, and often these are more pronounced after the second shot. Women have reported changes in menstruation after taking mRNA vaccines. Problems with blood clotting (coagulation) – which are also common during COVID-19 disease – are also reported.

Among the most critical tests, which must be performed prior to testing any drug or vaccines in a human being, is whether it can cause mutations in the DNA (genotoxicity), or whether it could cause problems with cells or tissues of the reproductive tract – including ovaries (reproductive toxicity). In the case of the Pfizer COVID mRNA vaccine, these newly revealed documents raise additional questions about both the genotoxicity and reproductive toxicity risks of this product.

Standard studies designed to assess these risks were not performed in compliance with accepted empirical research standards. Furthermore, in key studies designed to test whether the vaccine remains near the injection site or travels throughout the body, Pfizer did not even use the commercial vaccine (BNT162b2) but instead relied on a “surrogate” mRNA producing the luciferase protein.


 
No these are experimental injections never before approved for humans (except experimental ebola) that haven't gone through comprehensive animal testing, did not challenge any of the test subjects with SARS CoV 2 and only selectively reported on safety and efficacy results, with Phase 3 results not due to be reported on until January 2023.

FOI requests have disclosed some of the Pfizer mice study results.

According to the documents, pre-clinical studies show that the active part of the vaccine (mRNA-lipid nanoparticles), which produce the spike protein, spreads throughout the body and is then concentrated in various organs, including the ovaries and spleen. The FOIA-produced data sets are incomplete, so the full meaning of these data cannot be determined at this time.

The full panel of industry-standard reproductive toxicity and genotoxicity studies were apparently also not performed.


Recently, there has been speculation regarding potential safety signals associated with COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. Many different unusual, prolonged, or delayed reactions have been reported, and often these are more pronounced after the second shot. Women have reported changes in menstruation after taking mRNA vaccines. Problems with blood clotting (coagulation) – which are also common during COVID-19 disease – are also reported.

Among the most critical tests, which must be performed prior to testing any drug or vaccines in a human being, is whether it can cause mutations in the DNA (genotoxicity), or whether it could cause problems with cells or tissues of the reproductive tract – including ovaries (reproductive toxicity). In the case of the Pfizer COVID mRNA vaccine, these newly revealed documents raise additional questions about both the genotoxicity and reproductive toxicity risks of this product.

Standard studies designed to assess these risks were not performed in compliance with accepted empirical research standards. Furthermore, in key studies designed to test whether the vaccine remains near the injection site or travels throughout the body, Pfizer did not even use the commercial vaccine (BNT162b2) but instead relied on a “surrogate” mRNA producing the luciferase protein.



Not experimental.

 

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LOL the fear bullshit is full steam ahead and the worst thing is people actually swallow it, Magnum27 hope you don't mind but stole this from your post on the dickhead dan thread.

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Was just about to post this same thing. What bullshit. Honestly.
Up there with catching it off the sweat droplets of joggers and through the air vents of cars.

It's at the point now where this is a world wide IQ Test. Anyone who believes this is dead set stupid. I don't mean ha ha idiot but literally unable to think and process. Like too stupid to function in society. Something has gone horribly horribly wrong.
 
7News here are saying SA may have restrictions come in because theyre worried about Vic cases. **** me sideways if that doesnt wake the cult up what will? (Feel like thats been said alot before also). No cases here, 1000s of tests a day to verify that but "it could be here". 1 case could be the reason to lockdown

Spurrier and Marshall are cancerous ****wits if this is even a thought bubble let alone being planned for
 
A fraction of the world's military budget too. The problem here is will.
There has been some will, because it has improved significantly over the past decades. I guess the poorly made point I was trying to make was that this is the first time in many years that the hard fought progress made has declined. And this isn't due to the pandemic, it's due to our response to the pandemic. Government will now have lest to spend on foreign aid and individuals will have less to give to charity (though billionaires will have more). And this is but one known impact of worldwide lockdowns, there are things we aren't even aware of yet. It's one of the many reasons I believe that thrusting the globe into an unprecedented social experiment was entirely reckless and dangerous, far more so than what we could have done.
 
7News here are saying SA may have restrictions come in because theyre worried about Vic cases. fu** me sideways if that doesnt wake the cult up what will? (Feel like thats been said alot before also). No cases here, 1000s of tests a day to verify that but "it could be here". 1 case could be the reason to lockdown

Spurrier and Marshall are cancerous *******s if this is even a thought bubble let alone being planned for

This isn't even funny anymore. Can't be bothered with my spiel. This is too stupid for words. Deliberately stupid or malevolent? At this point one in the same
 
Except they didn’t do nothing. That’s the point. It’s like when we were allowing people to quarantine at home but Australian’s were incapable of moderating their own behaviour. The Swedish instead were self moderating based off recommendations.

Even then, their government admitted it was wrojg



Yes. Also account for excess morbidity due to health system collapse if left to run unchecked through the community.



A bigger number.

The personal responsibility model is fine by me and all of us you will find, so Sweden is the example

Swedens govt stood on both sides of the fence with there commentary. Ultimately they are now in a better position then anyone at present

In regards to excess morbidity is there any examples of this ? I’ve actually looked hard for it myself and never found any outside of Brazil and Peru. Was looking for a EU example but none exist from what I could find
 
If people believe what we're being told now, they're insane.

US Flu Cases dropped from ~33M in 2019, to 1,500 last year; COVID rose to ~34M.

Finally, the insane theory of a lab leak is no longer insane, and it's becoming commonly accepted gain of function research and a lab leak led to this.

The Virus has HIV type characteristics ( The work, only reported in a preprint, suggests the pandemic pathogen takes a page from HIV and other retroviruses and integrates its genetic code—but, importantly, just parts of it—into people’s chromosomes - https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...tic-material-human-chromosomes-what-does-mean)

The vaccine program for a virus with a 0.02% mortality rate; which is dominated by the elderly or the already ill, does not warrant this - especially a completely new type of vaccine, which hasn't been properly tested.

Actual reports, not just bullshit on social media, of completely disproportionate deaths and illnesses resulting from the vaccinations - including severe spikes in miscarriages and fertility issues.

Vaccines now being given to children under 12 years old with no parental consent required in some places (Canada)- let that sink in for a moment; your kid could go to school and come home vaccinated without your knowledge. And why are children being vaccinated, when they are almost completely immune?

Ivermectin is PROVEN to be effective, and is being used heavily in the developing world (and we aren't hearing about India being a complete catastrophe anymore) - but is effectively outlawed in the Western world.

Excess mortality rates for nations don't match up with the purported severity of this disease.

Existing immunity is widespread; and ongoing immunity from mild infections appears to be lifelong (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41...cdpTVcUUMEvtGcWEgfSaThMNIblvevc-bM459sEhV14kY).

PCR testing has been discredited as appropriate numerous times - especially with the methodology used here - yet everything is based upon it; people with zero symptoms and zero illness are apparently sick.

There is way too much shit going on that does not make sense - if you don't look at this and wonder what the **** is actually going on, then you're living in a dream world.

What do I think? This is either a lot worse than we're being told in the HIV/AIDS type mould, and while initial infections are mild, we'll all be ****ed in a few years... Or, and this is absolutely crazy and the only reason I'd even consider it is based upon how nonsensical everything else is, the vaccine program is some kind of long term population control project.

Either way, I think we're ****ed.

EDIT - And I don't give a shit if people thing it's crazy anymore.
 
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This is a random conspiracy thought but could Australia be the place where an experiment is being run to see how far the lockdowns/restrictions and variant stories can be pushed before there is a WTF eyeroll response from the general public?
No more insane than what's happening. It really is a piss take now.
 
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