Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #5: We're in this together!

About Covid vaccines: Opinion on mandates? Your personal situation?

  • I support vaccine mandates for all jobs

    Votes: 24 26.1%

  • I support vaccine mandates for health & aged care jobs

    Votes: 9 9.8%

  • I don't care either way, it's up to each company

    Votes: 4 4.3%

  • Vaccine mandates are immoral and/or unjustifiable

    Votes: 46 50.0%

  • My employer has mandated the vaccine - I got it to keep my job

    Votes: 13 14.1%

  • My employer has mandated the vaccine - I decided to quit my job

    Votes: 8 8.7%

  • My employer has left the decision to get the vaccine optional

    Votes: 8 8.7%

  • I'm not sure where my employer stands on this issue

    Votes: 14 15.2%
  • Total voters
    92

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iBeng said:
Have you see the flags waved at the protests? Q Flags, Trump 2024 flags, in NEW ZEALAND of all places. Like, what?
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No I haven't been to a protest since the late 1970s and don't watch MSM news/current affairs, I just don't like quasi forced medical procedures... BTW I have had my first AZ shot.. 2nd shot due pretty soon.
 
Malifice said:
Each link was sourced with multiple footnotes.

If you disagree with those definitions feel free to provide your own.
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No, I've watched you try to flip the script so many times when questioned. I am not here for the definition of right wing. So don't try drag me down that rabbit hole.

You have ignored my point

I am highlighting the fact you have linked a website that I can go right now and edit that page to put a line saying "malifice say cheese"

If Wikipedia page links sources. Link those...

Just calling it for what it is.

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BLA60 said:
No, I've watched you try to flip the script so many times when questioned. I am not here for the definition of right wing. So don't try drag me down that rabbit hole.

You have ignored my point

I am highlighting the fact you have linked a website that I can go right now and edit that page to put a line saying "malifice say cheese"

If Wikipedia page links sources. Link those...

Just calling it for what it is.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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Can we point out the irony that you are using a Google phone?
 
BLA60 said:
No, I've watched you try to flip the script so many times when questioned. I am not here for the definition of right wing. So don't try drag me down that rabbit hole.

You have ignored my point

I am highlighting the fact you have linked a website that I can go right now and edit that page to put a line saying "malifice say cheese"
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That's true, but are you alleging that the content provided was not accurate, or that I put it there myself?

If not, and you agree the content was accurate, you're arguing a strawman.
 
Malifice said:
Hahaha. I knew it.

Most of you anti-vaxxers are vaccinated.
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Dont topic shift and ignore the question. I’ve said many times I’m not vaccinated and will take Novavax if approved.. Anyway


Why do you think they should lock down when the vaccinated are the ones contracting it? Is the vaccine not working? Why is it only the vaccinated getting it in that community?
 
Malifice said:
Novovax is made by Big Pharma and funded by the Gates foundation isnt it?

Novavax, Inc. - Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
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Don’t lie. ThAt is for HIV. Nothing to do with Covid?. All funding for Novavax came from Trump during his Operation Warp Speed

Don’t be a coward quote cutter

Why do you think they should lock down when the vaccinated are the ones contracting it? Is the vaccine not working? Why is it only the vaccinated getting it in that community?
 

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Malifice said:
That's true, but are you alleging that the content provided was not accurate, or that I put it there myself?

If not, and you agree the content was accurate, you're arguing a strawman.
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Neither,

I was just highlighting that if people could go and change my old schools location to Pyongyang and our principal to dear leader Kim. Then it might not be the best place to quote from. Regardless if the data is right or wrong, with or without links etc. Its open source, to try use an example... albeit a poor one, but that's the technician in me talking.

It was a bit of banter relating to how you can be quite vocal about other people's links (not saying they or you are right or wrong... before you go asking for my own proof... Please lets not get serious)

But I don't think you viewed it that way :(
 
BLA60

left, in politics, the portion of the political spectrum associated in general with egalitarianism and popular or state control of the major institutions of political and economic life. The term dates from the 1790s, when in the French revolutionary parliament the socialist representatives sat to the presiding officer’s left. Leftists tend to be hostile to the interests of traditional elites, including the wealthy and members of the aristocracy, and to favour the interests of the working class (see proletariat). They tend to regard social welfare as the most important goal of government. Socialism is the standard leftist ideology in most countries of the world; communism is a more radical leftist ideology.

left | Definition & Facts | Britannica

right, portion of the political spectrum associated with conservative political thought. The term derives from the seating arrangement of the French revolutionary parliament (c. 1790s) in which the conservative representatives sat to the presiding officer’s right. In the 19th century the term applied to conservatives who supported authority, tradition, and property. In the 20th century a divergent, radical form developed that was associated with fascism.

right | ideology | Britannica

And:

What does left mean?
In politics, left refers to people and groups that have liberal views. That generally means they support progressive reforms, especially those seeking greater social and economic equality.

The far left is often used for what is considered more extreme, revolutionary views, such as communism and socialism. Collectively, people and groups, as well as the positions they hold, are referred to as the Left or the left wing.

What does right mean?
The word right, in contrast, refers to people or groups that have conservative views. That generally means they are disposed to preserving existing conditions and institutions. Or, they want to restore traditional ones and limit change.

The far right is often used for more extreme, nationalistic viewpoints, including fascism and some oppressive ideologies. People and groups, as well as their positions, are collectively referred to as the Right or the right wing.
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Why Do "Left" And "Right" Mean Liberal And Conservative? - Dictionary.com

Left wing people favor egalitarianism, and the working class intrests against the elites and oppose hierarchies and wielding of social power, and seek a society with greater social and economic opportunity for all. At the extremes you venture into Socialism and Communism (far Left).

Right wing people are reactionary, nativist and nationalistic and support social hierarchies and tradition. At the extremes they venture into full blown Fascism and Nazism

Are you OK with those definitions?
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Don’t lie. ThAt is for HIV. Nothing to do with Covid?.
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Bill Gates told CNBC that Johnson & Johnson’s and Novavax’s vaccines will still be essential tools against new, emerging variants of the coronavirus — even though the companies have said their shots may be less potent against a strain found in South Africa.
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Covid vaccine: Bill Gates says J&J, Novavax shots can attack variants (cnbc.com)

An article from CNBC quoting Gates himself.

You're going to be taking this vaccine that Bill Gates is shilling in the leftist MSM are you?
 
BLA60 said:
Oh dear what have I done :sweatsmile:

I have watched this thread long enough to know better
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You wanted a definition, and I provided 2 alternate ones, that also say what I said the definition was.

I dont mind you calling out a source as questionable, but you should really only reserve that for when the information from the source is questionable.

If the information is correct (and you dont dispute the information), its a bit of a moot point.
 
Malifice said:
You wanted a definition, and I provided 2 alternate ones, that also say what I said the definition was.

I dont mind you calling out a source as questionable, but you should really only reserve that for when the information from the source is questionable.

If the information is correct (and you dont dispute the information), its a bit of a moot point.
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I never wanted a definition, I never said that? And I also never questioned what was on the link as right or wrong btw.

I was just poking a bit of fun, lighten up. Have a laugh :)
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Why do you think they should lock down when the vaccinated are the ones contracting it? Is the vaccine not working?
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Havent we been over this? The vaccine doesnt provide 100 percent protection from contracting it.

The protection from infection is about 70 percent at best in the early weeks post 2nd jab, and rapidly declines over the next 24 weeks to zero.

Of course over that time period it also provides a roughly 95 percent reduction in critical or fatal COVID as well.

This has been conceded and acknowledged by everyone from BlueE to myself for weeks now.

What about this are you finding hard to understand?
 
Malifice said:
Left wing people favor egalitarianism, and the working class intrests against the elites and oppose hierarchies and wielding of social power, and seek a society with greater social and economic opportunity for all. At the extremes you venture into Socialism and Communism (far Left).

Right wing people are reactionary, nativist and nationalistic and support social hierarchies and tradition. At the extremes they venture into full blown Fascism and Nazism
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The last few years has shown me the left vs right thing is BS, and your definitions show it. It's just a way of pigeonholing people, or joining a team. By your definition anyone who is opposed to mandatory vaccination would be considered leftist, but you know that isn't the case.
 
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