Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #5: We're in this together!

About Covid vaccines: Opinion on mandates? Your personal situation?

  • I support vaccine mandates for all jobs

    Votes: 24 26.1%

  • I support vaccine mandates for health & aged care jobs

    Votes: 9 9.8%

  • I don't care either way, it's up to each company

    Votes: 4 4.3%

  • Vaccine mandates are immoral and/or unjustifiable

    Votes: 46 50.0%

  • My employer has mandated the vaccine - I got it to keep my job

    Votes: 13 14.1%

  • My employer has mandated the vaccine - I decided to quit my job

    Votes: 8 8.7%

  • My employer has left the decision to get the vaccine optional

    Votes: 8 8.7%

  • I'm not sure where my employer stands on this issue

    Votes: 14 15.2%
  • Total voters
    92

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Malifice said:
Anyone else on this thread waiting to get the Novovax vaccine that Bill Gates is shilling all over the MSM, from the company his foundation has provided money to and is listed on their website?

Or is it just GoEaglesGoSGIO ?
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If I have a gun pointed at my head and they say pick your poison then I guess it would be Novavax. It should never have come to this.
 
Malifice said:
Hahaha. I knew it.

Most of you anti-vaxxers are vaccinated.
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You come at everything in a binary fashion.

People can be vaccinated but be against the mandates, I know around 30 family and close friends who have been vaccinated and all but a few think the compulsory nature of it is not on, also a fair portion of them think the level of measures taken eg. lockdowns/border closures/mask mandates/vaccine or bust methods were over the top, there is nuance in many topics. Not everyone not your side of the argument thinks that Bill Gates is a reptilian overlord.
 

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Stocks_go_Up said:
The 'freedom' to travel between states now gone - even if 'vaxxed'... Australia has officially lost the ******* plot 100%. You are now forced to get a PCR test for $150-$300 to prove you are 'clean'... This has to stop - the mandate crowd have blood on their hands for supporting our 'leaders'.

This is the person dictating the rules on 'health'... Take that in for a second. I don't like to have a go at peoples fitness or weight but the pictures speak for themselves.

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Slippery Pete said:
We’re not at war with our ideological inferiors. We’re at war with our genetic inferiors. Both major parties have cobbled together the absolute dregs of society to rule over us.

Ugly people, fat people, women who look like men and vice-versa.

Sometimes you really can judge a book by its cover.
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Unfortunately yes you can. Take these rallies, 60 percent attendance is women. Healthy attractive women. Many older women, some bodies flogged by child rearing, but mind and heart beautiful. Look at men, healthy men in a country that ranks high in all toxic health issues.
Obciety
Addiction
Cancer
Heart disease
Dementia
Mental health
Neurological disorders and diseases.

These rallies are where the responsible humans are at
 
Malifice said:
Havent we been over this? The vaccine doesnt provide 100 percent protection from contracting it.

The protection from infection is about 70 percent at best in the early weeks post 2nd jab, and rapidly declines over the next 24 weeks to zero.

Of course over that time period it also provides a roughly 95 percent reduction in critical or fatal COVID as well.

This has been conceded and acknowledged by everyone from BlueE to myself for weeks now.

What about this are you finding hard to understand?
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Your double standards and backflipping.

You went from open up so I can go to Sweden til, lock down instantly with 87 percent vaccination rates irregardless of all other circumstances...

Essentially your view is you ain’t going anywhere. If you think you are, you are a massive hypocrite
 
Malifice said:
Anyone else on this thread waiting to get the Novovax vaccine that Bill Gates is shilling all over the MSM, from the company his foundation has provided money to and is listed on their website?

Or is it just GoEaglesGoSGIO ?
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Novavax cancel trials when they don’t work. Pfizer and Moderna plough ahead, kill thousands get billion dollars criminal fines and simply do the same thing again

Very different companies irregardless of you MSM fuelled lies. Anything to not give Trump credit really. Even gotta link HIV vaccines in a entire different part of the company
 
Malifice said:
BLA60

left, in politics, the portion of the political spectrum associated in general with egalitarianism and popular or state control of the major institutions of political and economic life. The term dates from the 1790s, when in the French revolutionary parliament the socialist representatives sat to the presiding officer’s left. Leftists tend to be hostile to the interests of traditional elites, including the wealthy and members of the aristocracy, and to favour the interests of the working class (see proletariat). They tend to regard social welfare as the most important goal of government. Socialism is the standard leftist ideology in most countries of the world; communism is a more radical leftist ideology.

left | Definition & Facts | Britannica

right, portion of the political spectrum associated with conservative political thought. The term derives from the seating arrangement of the French revolutionary parliament (c. 1790s) in which the conservative representatives sat to the presiding officer’s right. In the 19th century the term applied to conservatives who supported authority, tradition, and property. In the 20th century a divergent, radical form developed that was associated with fascism.

right | ideology | Britannica

And:



Why Do "Left" And "Right" Mean Liberal And Conservative? - Dictionary.com

Left wing people favor egalitarianism, and the working class intrests against the elites and oppose hierarchies and wielding of social power, and seek a society with greater social and economic opportunity for all. At the extremes you venture into Socialism and Communism (far Left).

Right wing people are reactionary, nativist and nationalistic and support social hierarchies and tradition. At the extremes they venture into full blown Fascism and Nazism

Are you OK with those definitions?
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And yet for all that - contemporary progressive left opinions are aligned precisely with all our authorities, our largest corporations and mainstream media. Exactly, what kind of socialist believes exactly what the biggest conglomerates in history believe and promote? We are to believe that Google, Murdoch, Big Pharma, Facebook et al are not the new aristocracts but benevolent socialists ready to relinquish all their wealth for the greater common good.

This requires a wilful blindness and/or a pathological timidity to buy this lame donkey and not see the charade. But there you go - vaccines everyone Big Pharma loves us all - they will be relinquishing all their profits as soon as the great reset is complete.
 
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Malifice said:
The protection from infection is about 70 percent at best in the early weeks post 2nd jab, and rapidly declines over the next 24 weeks to zero.
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I wonder how you feel when tell us tell us that? That's a lot of concession being made. There's concession happening more and more. You are now conceding that the vaxx doesn't stop you from catching it and spreading it and it's just become a matter of degrees. There now seems to be a focus more on what is happening with our hospitals rather than covid deaths. Even in Perth with no covid, we are experiencing hospitals being overwhelmed by something mysterious because they can't put their finger on it.

The narrative has made a subtle shift.
 
armpit said:
I wonder how you feel when tell us tell us that? That's a lot of concession being made. There's concession happening more and more. You are now conceding that the vaxx doesn't stop you from catching it and spreading it and it's just become a matter of degrees. There now seems to be a focus more on what is happening with our hospitals rather than covid deaths. Even in Perth with no covid, we are experiencing hospitals being overwhelmed by something mysterious because they can't put their finger on it.

The narrative has made a subtle shift.
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It gives no protection from infection. Look at UKs numbers

Pandemic of the vaccinated

Page 22 - https://assets.publishing.service.g...859/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_45.pdf

Imagine these figures in 12 months time when the vaccinated keep wiping immunity and unvaxxed with natural immunity move on
 
As if people don’t realise the right has been overtaken by populists and the left has been taken over by authoritarians.

Imagine referencing the 1790s and thinking that is somehow relevant to today. The ones chanting liberty egality and fraternity are the lib right.
 
Malifice said:
How so?
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To pick two things in context of covid. Oppose heirachies and wielding social power.

All we have are heirarchies, and we're adding more by the day. From the WHO all the way down to groups like the burnet institute. And it is these heirarchies who wield all the social power, down to who can get a haircut. The "vaccine passports" are so far from the ideals of the supposed left , by all rights they should be leading the protests. But all the self proclaimed lefties in this thread are decrying the protests. I myself would call what is happening in australia fascism, but I consider communism and fascism to be the same. And don't come back talking about capitalism vs socialism, they are myths and pipedreams respectively.
 

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Malifice said:
Of course over that time period it also provides a roughly 95 percent reduction in critical or fatal COVID as well.
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You want to piss fart around demanding research, peer reviewed research etc, proof of numbers. Show me the research that can show how many lives have been saved by taking the vaxx. There can't be any. How could they know whether the person who took the vaxx would live or die without it. They wouldn't.
 
armpit said:
You want to piss fart around demanding research, peer reviewed research etc, proof of numbers. Show me the research that can show how many lives have been saved by taking the vaxx. There can't be any. How could they know whether the person who took the vaxx would live or die without it. They wouldn't.
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The Pfizer trials showed their vax was effective in reducing Covid cases and deaths... but also increased heart attacks. That result was possibly a fluke and you'd need larger sample sizes to prove it, but the stories of people including athletes and children dropping dead point to a systematic problem.
 
Werewolf said:
The Pfizer trials showed their vax was effective in reducing Covid cases and deaths... but also increased heart attacks. That result was possibly a fluke and you'd need larger sample sizes to prove it, but the stories of people including athletes and children dropping dead point to a systematic problem.
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I don't see how you can test whether a person lived or not because of a vaxx.
 
The death by covid rate has remained pretty steady since pre vaxx. What is it? Still around 99% survival rate. You can give a person a vaxx and say look they lived, but it isn't proving the vaxx was the thing, because you can't prove they would have died without it.
 
Google just informed me there are over 7,900,000,000 people in the world!!!! And that a little over 5,000,000 have died of/from/with COVID since March 2020

I'm not good at maths - so I'm going to do this in baby steps:I remember something about moving the decimal point.
7,900,000,000 Population
790,000,000 - 10% of Population
79,000,000 - is 1%
7,900,000 - is 0.1%

5,000,000 is 0.06667% but this is for over 20 months not 12. So 0.667 x (12/20) = 0.04%
I hope I have this right: Covid has a global annual fatality rate of 0.04%
 
armpit said:
I don't see how you can test whether a person lived or not because of a vaxx.
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Obviously you can't unless we invent a way to travel between parallel universes (!!!), so you need trials with large sample sizes.

The smaller the probability of an event, the larger the sample sizes you need. Which is why it's crazy when people say "The probability of dying from the vaccine is one in a million" - you'd want sample sizes >10 million to figure that out. The Pfizer trials had just over 21,000 per group o_O
 
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