Mega Thread Cost of Living Allowance (COLA) discussion

[Numbered Days]

You're a bunch of serial deflectors. Raise the CoLA in a Tippett thread or talk about the CoL in other cities in a Sydney CoL thread and you lot get sand in your vaginas and scream 'not relevant'. Sorry, but both are entirely relevant. You just need to suck it up and debate points on their merits. The CoLA absolutely influences your ability to sign Tippett, and the CoL in other cities that have AFL teams is absolutely relevant to any CoLA provided to the Swans.

Dude, seriously, what is your problem with us. You are stating the same stuff over and over even after your issues are directly addressed. You are still saying we scream "not relevant" when I just dealt with it and we have agreed over and over that it should be looked at for Perth clubs. Why do you keep ignoring people who agree with you just so you can whine some more? Pretty bizarre.

No-one has deflected anything. You still have your panties in a bunch because I told you in a Tippett thread that there were a bunch of COL threads where Swans fans would be happy to discuss the COLA. You just want to be pissed off at us don't you?

The COLA has no influence on our ability to sign Tippett. We are using most of it and if we have $800k left in our cap then only about 70k of it is COLA. The extra 2m of actual cap that GCS and GWS have would have more influence don't you think?

 

[Gongswan]

If you roll into to trade week with the same number of dollars as a bunch of other teams then you are potentially already paying their entire salary cap(s) already.

Fremantle might well have $1m free to offer to Cloke, but that means $7.78m is tied up with the rest of the list. If the Swans have $1m free to offer Tippett then they've tied up $8.64m. $860k will pay the salary of 98% of the players in the AFL - hence people question the additional cap space.

OK, roll out the TPP figures and once we get a look at them, we'll argue teh point

 

[The 747]

At the risk of making a sensible post in a postGF hawthorn fan tantrum, there is an argument that Sydney property costs warrant an allowance. Even taking the average price of Sydney property is misleading, because for Swans player to live anywhere vaguely close to their base is right in the heart of the very expensive part of Sydney. If you live in Perth, you can live anywhere and be able to get to Subiaco or Fremantle no problems.

However, the allowance should be a set loading on top of a minimum contract for draftees and not a discretionary spend. Once a player gets to a standard AFL wage the price of things is not an issue.

 

[Scotland]

The COLA has no influence on our ability to sign Tippett. We are using most of it and if we have $800k left in our cap then only about 70k of it is COLA. The extra 2m of actual cap that GCS and GWS have would have more influence don't you think?

You are actually this stupid, aren't you?

 

[Numbered Days]

You have extra monies afforded to you. It's that simple.

Come on dude ... it wasn't that simple in your last post where you made incorrect assumptions. Hence us thinking that you and others who support your club cannot deal with these issues rationally.

Saying it's that simple is ignoring how the AFL works. There are many things in the AFL that disadvantage us and we get nothing for those. COLA is one of the things where the AFL does even things up.

Just focussing on one thing that is a completely valid allowance is pointless.

 

[Scotland]

OK, roll out the TPP figures and once we get a look at them, we'll argue teh point

Keep deflecting.

 

[Scotland]

Even taking the average price of Sydney property is misleading, because for Swans player to live anywhere vaguely close to their base is right in the heart of the very expensive part of Sydney. If you live in Perth, you can live anywhere and be able to get to Subiaco or Fremantle no problems.

You could walk from Redfern to the SCG. Why don't the Swans players live there?

 

[Numbered Days]

You are actually this stupid, aren't you?

LOL. That may be the smartest thing you have said in this thread. Good job

 

[Scotland]

Saying it's that simple is ignoring how the AFL works. There are many things in the AFL that disadvantage us and we get nothing for those. COLA is one of the things where the AFL does even things up.

Just focussing on one thing that is a completely valid allowance is pointless.

And so it begins... the CoLA is questioned and out comes the 'oh but we didn't get this, and we don't get this'. Jesus, is the topic that difficult?

 

[Debris]

You could walk from Redfern to the SCG. Why don't the Swans players live there?

Just like to clear up a myth here. Redfern is not a cheap place to live, unless you can get access to public housing.

 

[.Shotties.]

Just like to clear up a myth here. Redfern is not a cheap place to live, unless you can get access to public housing.

Yeah, that was a strange one. Maybe the idea that Sydney players should live in 15msq studio apartments is going to get another run.

 

[themarkedman72]

I have never heard such self serving tripe and NON arguments as the rubbish served up by the swans fans here.

The COLA has to go.

I dont give a rats toss bag if it costs more to live in sydney than anywhere else.

This is not a reason for the salary cap to be advantaged towards sydney. End of argument.

Quite simply if this was a genuine situation requiring extra money then Perth and Melbourne based clubs would also get extras.

However none of us want the filthy Lucre cause we want to be remembered as teams that deserved to win our flags.

Call me a whinger cause we lost but call me deserved when I win.

Hawks fan wanting to stand on his own two feet.

Also please enough of the Bloods, oooh arent they smart player recyclers rubbish. What a joke.

I cant believe there is anyone out there thick enough to believe that.

 

[Obeanie1]

My favourite part was the "hang on a minute" after this exact argument has been brought up around 500 times in the last few weeks ... but OP just thought of it.

If you want to discuss it logically, Swans fans will be happy to but as has been pointed out, huge errors show that you haven't really looked into it and don't understand it. Get back to us when you have done some research.

Ok num nuts, can you please explain to us why only Sydney teams get a cost of living allowance?

What is the base this cost of living is measured against? Melbourne?

If Sydney is 10% more expensive than Melbourne how come Perth teams get nothing? Perth is a hell of a lot more expensive than Melbourne but those teams get nothing.

Looking forward to hearing your "logical argument".

 

[themarkedman72]

If it's AFL endorsed, it's not cheating.

when inequality gives someone an advantage, irrespective if it is sanctioned, they are taking advantage of someone. Thus cheating is a fair description of the current situation.

 

[Costanza_]

Forget COL or do it properly.

/thread

And every thread on this issue.

More than happy for it to be reviewed. The AFL seem tied to the concept of weighting salary caps to reflect a cities CoL - this should be applied across all cities.

 

[.Shotties.]

Hawks fan wanting to stand on his own two feet.

 

[themarkedman72]

/thread

And every thread on this issue.

More than happy for it to be reviewed. The AFL seem tied to the concept of weighting salary caps to reflect a cities CoL - this should be applied across all cities.

so you admit that the current situation is unfair?
I bet Sydney fans would love this to go away, however I can assure you that you will always be reminded of this foul play and the aspersions it casts over your last two flags FOREVER.

 

[themarkedman72]

is that andrew Demetriou in red and white handing out the pressies??

Swans got 10% more pressies and they dont deserve it

 

[.Shotties.]

is that andrew Demetriou in red and white

Nice subtext, hadn't noticed it.

I can assure you that you will always be reminded of this foul play and the aspersions it casts over your last two flags FOREVER.

Assuming the Swans weren't paying less than the Hawks. Again.

 

[Numbered Days]

And so it begins... the CoLA is questioned and out comes the 'oh but we didn't get this, and we don't get this'. Jesus, is the topic that difficult?

LOL. I have dealt with your issues directly. Why the anger when related issues are brought up?

You need to take a nap dude. Your anger is way OTT.

 

[.Shotties.]

LOL. I have dealt with your issues directly. Why the anger when related issues are brought up?

You need to take a nap dude. Your anger is way OTT.

If you just keep calling him on a point he isn't comfy with he'll snap and start screaming about how you're boring him.

 

[The King!]

I have never heard such self serving tripe and NON arguments as the rubbish served up by the swans fans here.

The COLA has to go.

I dont give a rats toss bag if it costs more to live in sydney than anywhere else.

This is not a reason for the salary cap to be advantaged towards sydney. End of argument.

Quite simply if this was a genuine situation requiring extra money then Perth and Melbourne based clubs would also get extras.

However none of us want the filthy Lucre cause we want to be remembered as teams that deserved to win our flags.

Call me a whinger cause we lost but call me deserved when I win.

Hawks fan wanting to stand on his own two feet.

Also please enough of the Bloods, oooh arent they smart player recyclers rubbish. What a joke.

I cant believe there is anyone out there thick enough to believe that.

So at least you admit the swans are a more talented side than the hawks thats something cheers

 

[Numbered Days]

Yeah, that was a strange one. Maybe the idea that Sydney players should live in 15msq studio apartments is going to get another run.

I was going to reply but couldn't really think of anything to say. If we use Redfern as the base then our COLA would be about 30%.

 

[The 747]

so you admit that the current situation is unfair?
I bet Sydney fans would love this to go away, however I can assure you that you will always be reminded of this foul play and the aspersions it casts over your last two flags FOREVER.

No Hawthorn fans will cry about it forever, the rest of us will credit the Swans with a flag they deserved to win.

Your post about standing on your own two feet is amusing, from a club that relies on Tasmanian government subsidy to offset the fact your million members dont seem to show up to your games....

 

[The King!]

And so it begins... the CoLA is questioned and out comes the 'oh but we didn't get this, and we don't get this'. Jesus, is the topic that difficult?

I think your solution in the other thread was fair.. It shits me people trying to accuse us of cheating or it tainting the flag.

But the system is flawed and should be reviewed, the salary cap should be even or if you have to have a COL it should be across the board and aimed at rookies