MRP / Trib. Cotchin & Ellis

[scarecrow2k1]

The fine thing is really irrelevant in this instance.

If it's graded high (and there was contact to the head) it's only a fine if it's low impact.

High contact, medium impact is two down to 1 with a plea.

So he only gets off if it's no case to answer. Fine won't matter

 

[Komrade_Tiger]

if hopper was half a second faster we wouldn't be having this discussion, for me it will come down to whether or not ellis had prior as it were to do anything else

 

[HumanMeatball]

Elis has a good record so gets a reduced fyi

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Anyone have footage of the Ellis incident?

Cotchin is fine, the only thing he's guilty of is winning the footy

Is also guilty of handing Deledio his arse.

 

[Michaels]

I thought the fines had to be all the same type?

Hasn't cotch got 2 for striking not for bumps ?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

that's the tricky bit here. Delayed onset of concussion, how can we be sure that it was a direct result of cotchin's bump, and not as in that clip astbury holding his ground front on. Tribunal would be VERY interesting if an onset concussion rubbed a player out and the defence was to argue that point

Leon Cameron's comments on the Cocthin v Sheil incident in his presser gave me the impression he wasn't happy about sheil getting floored but went on to say there was nothing in that specific incident and in his view Cotchin had nothing to worry about.

 

[theyellowsash]

cotchin should be fine but unfortunately i think ellis is in trouble. went for the bump instead of the ball and got him flush in the face.

it sucks. im not a huge fan of ellis (he has been pretty poor these finals, well below his average) but he has but in the work and deserves to be there.

 

[U2tigers]

I am worried about Cotchin, a nagging feeling says hes gone. (2 strikes)

 

[French Tiger]

Bartel reckons both fine. Afl will let them off.

Tiger time

Did he really say that ? That's awesome if someone recently on the panel thinks that


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[Fridge34]

that's the tricky bit here. Delayed onset of concussion, how can we be sure that it was a direct result of cotchin's bump, and not as in that clip astbury holding his ground front on. Tribunal would be VERY interesting if an onset concussion rubbed a player out and the defence was to argue that point

Yeah exactly mate, would be interesting indeed.

Could be that if the MRP were to rule against Cotch, they'd have to prove that it was he alone who was responsible for Shiel's concussion - or at least, that might be a point that the defence would raise.

 

[rank and file]

Relax, if Cotch gets rubbed out his best mate,you know who,will steel himself harder and step it up another level.
Best and fairest.

 

[HTT]

Stolen from main board.

Means a GWS medical report can’t possibly say Shiel was concussed. The fall out from a doctor allowing a player back on after a concussion would be huge. Then all you really have to argue is that Cotchin was going the ball, and since he actually won the ball, it’s stupid to argue otherwise.

 

[energyquant]

I think both will go :-(

Cotchin clearly catches him high. The MRP might find it was incidental contact, but I don't think we're going to be that lucky.

Ellis bumps and catches the player high. Whitfield was clearly stunned. He might get away with low force, but I think he's going to get 2 down to 1.

Markov in for Ellis. That's a huge ask for the lad, but I think he can do it.

We simply don't have a replacement for Cotchin. Caddy and Townsend will need to play serious midfield minutes we'll bring in one of Miles, Lloyd, Cellis or Bolton.

I pray that I'm wrong and the MRP gives everyone a free pass for the GF!

Cheers.

Dave P.

 

[Nerflardio2424]

B Ellis's is fine, if Cotchin goes so will Sloane


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[adsla69k]

Shiel didnt play out the game. Thats what will ultimately sink Cotchin. Good luck getting tickets, wish my team made it! Enjoy.

 

[THE_GUN]

Shiel looked fine 3 minutes after the incident when he got the ball and pumped it in long into the foward line but later had the issue (was it the Astbury bump or the cotchin bump ) - I think he gets off

Bellis is in more danger but with a clean slate it would be a harsh call for a 1st offence from a clean player

 

[HumanMeatball]

Cotchin will be fine. Ellis really has to be deemed worthy of 2 weeks to get suspended. If it's deemed a 1 week incident his record gets him a fine

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

I think it was pretty clear Cotchin was going for the ball and he's allowed to brace himself in the contest. The contact was incidental.

As for Ellis. See if you can find vision of Ollie Wines hit on, I think it was Goldsack, in the Port Adelaide vs Collingwood game late in the year. Almost identical and Wines got off. If there's any consistency then Ellis should be fine.

 

[ezard15]

Duty of care Amd third strike means Cotchin is gone. Ellis even more so.


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[scarecrow2k1]

Cameron said post game that cotchin was going for the ball and should be fine. He also mentioned a few more bumped him before Shiel came off.

Ellis is in trouble I think

 

[Saturday@2]

And what sort of a campaigner is Dermott Brereton. Absolutely dropped Cotchin in it.

Bit rich coming from an out and out thug.

Funnily enough I never heard him drop his old man in it for what happened in the back of his taxi.

Campaigner.

 

[Shaz2012]

Cotchin will be fine. Cant hold people accountable when there is no hint of negligence involved. Two players going for the ball and accidental head knock.

Ellis should go, but as others have pointed out, if there is even one precedent that gets him off the AFL should be using it after a prelim.

 

[Cotcho]

If either of these guys get suspended for a grand final for those bumps...where the ball was their objective then that's a ****ing disgrace.

 

[a_fighting_fury]

Cotchin will be fine. Ellis really has to be deemed worthy of 2 weeks to get suspended. If it's deemed a 1 week incident his record gets him a fine

Most likely outcome IMO

 

[Joker91]

If Cotchin goes we may as well make the game touch football.

You aren't allowed to dive on the ball anymore in case it makes contact with the knees so honestly what is his only other option in that situation? To go body/head first and keep your feet .... he actually won the contest.