Covid 19 (OPEN DISCUSSION)

[new breed]

Cute sign. Since I know your definitely a "Yeah! Science! Woo!" guy may I be the first to congratulate on the exciting new opportunities for you and your liver.

Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line

Preclinical studies of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, showed reversible hepatic effects in animals that received the BNT162b2 injection. Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human...

www.mdpi.com

In short can you explain ?
Are we all sacrificial humans to a worthy cause ?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

“Putin isn’t as bad a guy as he’s portrayed” is quite the take.

Just when you think this thread has seen it all.

 

[Godfather32]

“Putin isn’t as bad a guy as he’s portrayed” is quite the take.

Just when you think this thread has seen it all.

I love this thread so much

 

[Ochre]

“Putin isn’t as bad a guy as he’s portrayed” is quite the take.

Just when you think this thread has seen it all.

Regardless, gotta respect someone who's managed to become an expert in epidemiology and foreign policy. Must have been one hell of a university degree.

 

[Moose1414]

In short can you explain ?
Are we all sacrificial humans to a worthy cause ?

In short it was a myth that RNA can't reverse transcribe, which is the underlying principle of the safety of RNA vaccines. Unfortunately science was completely unaware of this until a few weeks after rolling out the vaccines. Heres an old news story from early 2021 breaking the news.

New Discovery Shows Human Cells Can Write RNA Sequences Into DNA – Challenges Central Principle in Biology

In a discovery that challenges long-held dogma in biology, researchers show that mammalian cells can convert RNA sequences back into DNA, a feat more common in viruses than eukaryotic cells. Cells contain machinery that duplicates DNA into a new set that goes into a newly formed cell. That same c

scitechdaily.com

But, fortunately it could never happen with vaccines because science. Or so we were told.

Now, ok well it can happen in humans, specifically with mRNA vaccines, but that only been proven in vitro, so...

Look, mRNA is not just a miracle cure for covid but its actually one day soon going to cure everything from heart damage to cancer. So of course whatever happens to you as a result of this unpredicted reverse transcription is for a worthy cause. Science got you bro, sleep easy.

 

[Moose1414]

Regardless, gotta respect someone who's managed to become an expert in epidemiology and foreign policy. Must have been one hell of a university degree.

Actually I was home schooled in a commune about 100km east of Esperance. Until the damn government said we were trespassing on crown land! Since then I've just been occasionally deploying my ability to read in the English language to occasionally rise above the moronic trash in the news the rest of you take as the absolute ceiling level of human cognition. Ironically, as you say that does pretty much make me an expert by comparison, but it should be nothing to be proud of. My university degree is in a field of cognitive science, its a modest achievement but I can at least say its in one of the less embarrassing fields as I stepped over Psychology. More than enough experts in psychologising on the board to make up for it though.

 

[DanWCE]

Actually I was home schooled in a cult about 100km east of Esperance.

Fabulous reading

 

[Dazzler9]

Actually I was home schooled in a commune about 100km east of Esperance. Until the damn government said we were trespassing on crown land! Since then I've just been occasionally deploying my ability to read in the English language to occasionally rise above the moronic trash in the news the rest of you take as the absolute ceiling level of human cognition. Ironically, as you say that does pretty much make me an expert by comparison, but it should be nothing to be proud of. My university degree is in a field of cognitive science, its a modest achievement but I can at least say its in one of the less embarrassing fields as I stepped over Psychology. More than enough experts in psychologising on the board to make up for it though.

5 stars for smug pomposity

 

[kane249]

“Putin isn’t as bad a guy as he’s portrayed” is quite the take.

Just when you think this thread has seen it all.

To use a quote from elsewhere

The overlap between staunch anti-covid-anything enthusiasts and Russia apologists is also interesting.

 

[Godfather32]

Fabulous reading

This can't be real....

 

[new breed]

I lnew I needed science in my TAE !!

Damn !!

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving, like a jelly of the month club membership in lieu of a Christmas bonus.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

You missed Canada in the first list of socialist dictatorships And nice try but Russia doesn't really belong with North Korea. Putin may be an authoritarian to some degree but Russia has a democratic system of government and anyone who knows the first thing about Russia is aware that Putin has the support of a healthy majority his people and doesn't need to rig elections, its sitting at about 70% currently. He's doing alright, but Mark would probably say to him "those are rooking numbers, you gotta pump those numbers up." Also the oligarchs aren't so much a thing now as they were in the 90's their influence is pretty dilute at this point compared to that of the state. Anyone who thinks getting rid of Putin would make Russia a safer country for the world to deal with is nuts. Figures like Navaly {who struggled to achieve about a 1% of popular support] are not going to miraculously transform the place into California and what comes after Putin is most likely to be someone to the right of him, willing to escalate tensions with the west even further.

Is this a joke?

2021 Russian legislative election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The election was marred by multiple episodes of systemic fraud.[17][175] Multiple episodes of ballot-box stuffing and other forms of fraud were recorded in photographs and video recordings, many of which circulated widely on Russian social media.[17][176] In some regions, episodes of carousel voting (groups of voters casting multiple ballots at different polling stations) were reported.[177] There were also reports of clashes between poll workers and election monitors.[177]

Ella Pamfilova, head of the CEC, said that the government's commission had invalidated some 25,830 ballots but insisted at a press conference with Putin that the complaints of fraud were "minimal as ever";[17][178] outside analysts identified fraud on a much broader scale.[17][179] After the election, the independent Russian election-monitoring organization Golos said that there were violations during the voting procedure which led to "significantly distorted" results that cast doubt on the "veracity of the results" officially reported by the CEC.[17] Golos said it had received about 5,000 reports of possible voter violations.

Physicist and independent Russian election analyst Sergei Shpilkin conducted a statistical analysis of anomalies in the voting data, concluding that massive fraud was a major factor in United Russia's victory[179] and over 14 million votes were added artificially.[181] Shpilkin estimated that United Russia would have likely received around 31–33% of votes, rather than nearly half of the vote as officially reported,[179] and United Russia would have lost its majority in the State Duma without voting fraud. Electronic vote accounted for 4% of overall votes and was decisive for a number of Duma seats, especially in Moscow.[181] Shpilikin also estimated that nationwide voter turnout was probably around 38%, rather than 52% as officially reported.[179] Statistical analysis by the Complexity Science Hub Vienna also indicate massive fraud, with clear statistical signs for voter rigging and ballot-stuffing; voter turnout was rather around 30%.[182] A machine learning model applied to electoral data also indicates the mediocre quality of election results registration.[183]

There were reports on members of election committees casting ballots for voters,[184] and removal of observers by police during counting.[185] With the election taking three days, there were numerous reports of members of election committees returning to polling stations at late hours,[186] although the polling stations were supposed to be closed.

Also, it's a lot easier to keep "winning" elections when the main opposition keeps ending up dead (Sergei Yushenkov, Boris Nemtsov) or in prison (Alexei Navalny).

 

[Moose1414]

5 stars for smug pomposity

Cheers. When the board lives to take the piss out of fellow posters, and the occasional person you haven't put on ignore slips through and takes the piss out of you, its best to aim to please. I hope I haven't let you all down. Please continue to ignore discussion of covid related stuffs and flex on nerds. Mockery and harassment of fellow posters is not only ignored here, its encouraged. I'm all for it. Burn nerds burn! Burn nerds burn!

 

[Moose1414]

I regret to inform you all that Moose1414 has been watching youtube again. Something about Germany following Denmarks lead [where they reduced vaccine myocarditis rates but 2/3 by injecting people with needles properly] and have changed public health advice to recoupment aspiration.



Howl with laughter kings.

 

[Moose1414]

Is this a joke?

2021 Russian legislative election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also, it's a lot easier to keep "winning" elections when the main opposition keeps ending up dead (Sergei Yushenkov, Boris Nemtsov) or in prison (Alexei Navalny).

Oh boy. BTFO'd with wikipedia, I humbly submit sir. Russia man bad.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Oh boy. BTFO'd with wikipedia, I humbly submit sir. Russia man bad.

I mean there are lots of links in that snippet that I posted, and there are literally dozens of videos of people covering up cameras or stuffing ballot boxes in Russia. If you want to believe that Putin's party is just wildly popular and has been for 20 years despite the refusal to allow international observers to oversee the elections, or the great wealth of information out there about voter irregularities in Russian elections, then I think you're just voluntarily opting to remain ignorant.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

McGowan is a dictator and Putin is popular and always fairly elected.

This thread never stops.

 

[kane249]

The double standards is what gets me

"Trump's election was stolen!"
"Where's your proof?"
"Ummm... Doesn't matter, it was stolen!"



"Here's all the evidence Putin rigs elections"
"Nah looks all good to me, Putin is above board"

 

[DanWCE]

The double standards is what gets me

"Trump's election was stolen!"
"Where's your proof?"
"Ummm... Doesn't matter, it was stolen!"



"Here's all the evidence Putin rigs elections"
"Nah looks all good to me, Putin is above board"

Didn't Putin also help cook the books to get Trump in initially?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Didn't Putin also help cook the books to get Trump in initially?

Russia had nothing to do with the 2016 election, that’s all fake news.

(Message brought to you by the same people that think Trump was robbed and Putin is greatly misunderstood)

 

[Dazzler9]

McGowan is a power hungry dictator and Putin is a decent dude.

Western society is surely on the verge of collapse.

 

[Moose1414]

I mean there are lots of links in that snippet that I posted, and there are literally dozens of videos of people covering up cameras or stuffing ballot boxes in Russia. If you want to believe that Putin's party is just wildly popular and has been for 20 years despite the refusal to allow international observers to oversee the elections, or the great wealth of information out there about voter irregularities in Russian elections, then I think you're just voluntarily opting to remain ignorant.

I'm not going to get into a whole political thing on Russia with you only to have Moderators come in and ask not to go there. Last time you went political and I responded at length I was told to please not bring my political agenda to the covid board. You have been spurting a load of biased nonsense about politics, I've simply told you the obvious about Russia that Putin is popular there, and the Russian people are overwhelmingly not exactly of a similar mind to you. That is a fact. And since we prefer to express ourselves in memes, not words, on this board. I suggest that this meme sums up your arguments pretty well:

 

[Dazzler9]

 

[Godfather32]

He probably can't see anything we're writing, has us all blocked