Cricket Discussion - Part 2

[raptalia]

I'd love to hear the explanation from Indian fans - on the replay, how did the ball change direction mid flight, if there was no deflection off bat and/or glove?

According to the DRS guru snicko will only pick up a distinct noise and the ball hitting glove makes little noise. The only way to tell is via hot spot but that technology is no longer used because FOXTEL did not think it was worth it. You would think that the use of DRS technology was controlled by the ICC but apparently not.

 

[philreich]

Well that doesn't fit the narrative. Anyway only 49.5% of the ball was hitting the stumps so the infallible technology must have been wrong.

It's like the invented 15 degrees of elbow flexion is the benchmark between throwing and bowling.

Of course if roles were reversed, the Indian fans would be screaming blue murder if it was given not out. Suck it up princesses.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

The salty tears are delicious.

But as five-time ICC umpire of the year Simon Taufel said, Sharfuddoula was correct in giving Jaiswal out.

"With the technology, we have a hierarchy and [if there is a] clear deflection off the bat there is no need to go any further and use any other form of technology to prove the case," Taufel said on Network Seven's commentary.

"The clear deflection is conclusive evidence."

Former top umpire says controversial Jaiswal dismissal was correct

A controversial dismissal that helped Australia win the Boxing Day Test was the correct decision according to a former top international umpire.

www.abc.net.au

 

[snozulu]

I'd love to hear the explanation from Indian fans - on the replay, how did the ball change direction mid flight, if there was no deflection off bat and/or glove?

Nor even waqar or Wasim could swing it that far after the ball pitched lol

 

[Ford Fairlane]

And as someone commented, do the Indian fans think high resolution video close ups are not decision-making technology?

 

[philreich]

Because Australia cheated!

But hang on, how did the Aussies cheat? We merely appealed the not out decision, and the Sri Lankan (?) third umpire gave him out .

 

[Rising Power]

And as someone commented, do the Indian fans think high resolution video close ups are not decision-making technology?

India were against use of the DRS system in the first place, they weren't convinced the technology was accurate.

They were also against D/N Test cricket.

And against T20 cricket.

But

 

[Rising Power]

But hang on, how did the Aussies cheat? We merely appealed the not out decision, and the Sri Lankan (?) third umpire gave him out .

Bangladesh

 

[Ford Fairlane]

But hang on, how did the Aussies cheat? We merely appealed the not out decision, and the Sri Lankan (?) third umpire gave him out .

Didn't you know, because Australia always cheats.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Sunny Gavaskar had a sook as well (from ABC article)

"If the evidence of the technology is not to be taken, why have it at all?" he said.

Sunny, all the technology was used, one aspect of it was inconclusive, another was clearly showing a deflection, and the sound of contact is clear on the audio of the video replay.

 

[philreich]

Didn't you know, because Australia always cheats.

At least we don't shoulder charge opposition debutants .

 

[Festerz]

As predicted India having a whinge about the Jaiswal dismissal. BCCI VP it was not out. Later in the article Sharma admits Jaiswal hit the ball. Indian fans Australia are cheats. Gotta love it.

The Kayo/Fox coverage of that dismissal was accurate and considered

Was in the car and the ABC sport coverage of the dismissal was as bad as Sunil Gavaskar's comments on the Seven coverage.



Neither understanding the role of the DRS and its limitations as explained by Warren Brennan – the founder of BBG Sports, which operates the ultra-edge technology – who made it clear in interviews yesterday his technology was not best used for glancing shots such as Jaiswal’s.

The deviation was clear and the claim of Gavaskar that there was an 'optical illusion' at play was laughable.


But by far the worst take was by the umpire Joel Wilson who ignored the huge and obvious deflection.

 

[snozulu]

Didn't you know, because Australia always cheats.

I still wonder if Warner got that sandpaper from Bunnings or his misses

 

[Rising Power]

The Kayo/Fox coverage of that dismissal was accurate and considered

Was in the car and the ABC sport coverage of the dismissal was as bad as Sunil Gavaskar's comments on the Seven coverage.



Neither understanding the role of the DRS and its limitations as explained by Warren Brennan – the founder of BBG Sports, which operates the ultra-edge technology – who made it clear in interviews yesterday his technology was not best used for glancing shots such as Jaiswal’s.

The deviation was clear and the claim of Gavaskar that there was an 'optical illusion' at play was laughable.


But by far the worst take was by the umpire Joel Wilson who ignored the huge and obvious deflection.

Oh well the flat line must've been an audio illusion...

Can't wait to see how dusty the pitches will be now, next time Aus tours India.

 

[Grave Danger]

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I wonder what the breakdown is of that 35% between ones he's given out vs not out - ie, is he incompetent, or just lazy/gun shy and happy to handball the decision upstairs?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I wonder what the breakdown is of that 35% between ones he's given out vs not out - ie, is he incompetent, or just lazy/gun shy and happy to handball the decision upstairs?

When Australia bowls his trigger finger is permanently holstered,

 

[snozulu]

Australian coach has all but confirmed Marsh will play in Sydney test lol

 

[philreich]

Australian coach has all but confirmed Marsh will play in Sydney test lol

Which is more or less the equivalent of Hinkley confirming that McEntee will play.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Great dressing room presence. Stable bison.

 

[Festerz]

Indians getting 'outraged' at the 'heinous' and 'obnoxious' gesture of Travis Head on social media, is pretty funny, e.g.:



Meanwhile in the real world..that gesture is explained..

 

[philreich]

Indians getting 'outraged' at the 'heinous' and 'obnoxious' gesture of Travis Head on social media, is pretty funny, e.g.:



Meanwhile in the real world..that gesture is explained..

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Ah, so that's a far more heinous crime than giving a 19 year old kid a shoulder charge - sounds legit.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

In 1988, Sidhu was involved in road rage incident of assault and causing the death of a man. In May 2022, the Supreme Court of India convicted him of voluntarily causing hurt (Section 323 of the Indian Penal Code) and sentenced him to 1 year rigorous imprisonment.[7] He was released after serving nearly 10 months of his sentence at Patiala Jail.[8]

Navjot Singh Sidhu - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Grave Danger]

I thought it was puerile by Head, but happy to see Indian fans being outraged by it.

 

[Festerz]

In 1988, Sidhu was involved in road rage incident of assault and causing the death of a man. In May 2022, the Supreme Court of India convicted him of voluntarily causing hurt (Section 323 of the Indian Penal Code) and sentenced him to 1 year rigorous imprisonment.[7] He was released after serving nearly 10 months of his sentence at Patiala Jail.[8]

Navjot Singh Sidhu - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Surprised he got the role of behavioural management consultant for the ICC tbh.

 

[1954]

In 1988, Sidhu was involved in road rage incident of assault and causing the death of a man. In May 2022, the Supreme Court of India convicted him of voluntarily causing hurt (Section 323 of the Indian Penal Code) and sentenced him to 1 year rigorous imprisonment.[7] He was released after serving nearly 10 months of his sentence at Patiala Jail.[8]

Navjot Singh Sidhu - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I read the report on that road rage incident where Sidhu who was aged 25 at the time punched a 65 yo in the head resulting in the victim's death, but I can't find any info as to reason for the huge gap between the time of the incident in 1988 and what appears to be an extremely inadequate sentence 34 years later in 2022.

Classy bloke that he obviously is though he ran away after that incident which may be why it took the Indian justice system so long to act, but it does appear his celebrity status accrued as a test cricketer and politician during that time bought him quite a few brownie points.