Crown Casino, Melbourne - Part 2

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red+black said:
I might have had a bit less than 500, he probably had 1000 or more. I didn't fold pre-flop, I folded on the flop. He raised to 20, 1 caller, I make it 60, he ups to 150, I called. Maybe I just had a Lee Childs moment :confused:. So what's his range? AA-TT? Surely he can't have AK/AQ, and can he go 150 pre with 99/88? The only read I thought I had was that he put me on AK. As I said, I got 2nd hand info that he had QQ.
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i woulda just snap jammed. I mean if he's crazy like you said he'll have TT- AA here, if he has AA what can you do still got 20% chance to win. He'll have AK here aswell.

But yeah you should have jammed.
 
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I believe congratulations are in order to R+B our resident BF Poker Forum Secretary as it is his birthday today, no doubt it was rung in on the $2/$3 tables.
 
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i want ur story DoubleA!

and thanks, but no, i spent the day with the old lady.
 

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Happy Birthday RnB.

I went down and spent half an hour on the poker pro $1/2 today. Wow there is some really ordinary play there.

There was this husband and wife team who were bickering and the wife was annoyed because he kept betting into here 1 on 1. Why she called with nothing when he said he had the Ace (paired) I'll never know but apparently he should have checked and not make her call with K high.

I looked down at pocket 8's about 5 hands after this and raise it to $9. All fold except for the wife and the flop comes down A-K-J. She checks and I have pretty much given up already and check. Turn is a 9 and river is a 3. She said she had a pair of 3s at the end so God knows what she had.

Later on I get QQ and with 4 limpers raise it to $13 in very late position. Get 2 callers inc. the husband. Of course the flop bring A-J-9. The guy in the SB looked like he wanted to get it all in but slowly checked, husband checked so I thought I'd see another card. Turn is a 10. Checked to me and I bet $10 (only had $26 left and thought someone most likely has an A but I wanna see where I am at). Both players called inc. SB all in for $8. Turn is another J so I am obviously dead now. Husband checks and I check and take it down. Again I have no idea what either player had. Obviously no A or J. What the hell could they be calling with both pre flop and turn?? No flush draws out there. I got told straight away that 2 guys folded their A (2 and 9 kicker respectively) so my raise pre flop paid off.

Saw 1 guy get K's and A's in the space of 5 hands. Won $120 off the A's which was impressive considering everyone had about $20-40 each at the table and he only $33.
 
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Must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2, must stop playing $1/2.

Ok hopefully that helps me.
 
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why would anyone play 1/2 :confused:

maybe on PokerPro for a laugh, cos on the $15 rake table, seriously, why bother?
 
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Just a quick one, it's late enough. I've had the worst week. My worst losing session ever, my worst losing week ever, but I've managed to turn it around. Lost $500 last Monday, beating the $400 I've lost a couple times. Lost another $300 on Thursday. Then was down $300 last night, although I walked out $100 up, so I'm really happy about that, I hope the tide has turned.

I was down $100, then topped up, then lost the lot, so I'm down $300. Rather than go home, I buy-in again. I'll just discuss one hand from last night, but I'll do it from the other guy's perspective (young danish guy I think).

Remember, I'm talking as the other guy: Couple limpers, I'm bossing this table silly, only had one bluff called, everyone is scared of me. I'm on the button with 44, I'll make my standard raise to 20. BB calls, he's donked off a few hundred, he's tilting a little, playing tight and predictable. Two limpers call, man they're such calling stations. Flop 4-5-6, two hearts. BINGO :thumbsu:. They all check, I bet 30. BB raises to 70, other two fold. What could this guy have? Flopped a straight? Possible, but unlikely. Some straight and flush draw combo? Possible. Probably an over pair is my guess. Let me see how much he has left? About 130. OK, I'm all in. He seems pained, he can't have the straight. He calls. Turn: Qh. River: 10s. I ask him if he has the flush, he shakes his head, so I proudly table my set of 4s. He then shows pocket 6s :thumbsdown:. I double him up.

And my confidence was back. Took down a pot with 52dd in position. MP raises to 15, I call from CO, 2 limpers call. Flop 9h-4h-3d, checks to MP who bets 25, I call, others fold. Turn: 8h. He checks, I bet 30, he's pissed and folds. He had QQ, no heart. A little mojo back and I'm far more comfortable than I had been all session (all week for that matter). I hope I can continue to recover my losses next time. But I've been there before, you run bad for a while, then win it all back and then some. One step forward, two steps back, three steps forward. Repeat.
 
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Got into a friendly disagreement with a young chap yesterday that tried to convince me that 89 sooted was the best hand against pocket rockets. 46% he said! I calmly told him he was well wrong on two counts. 56s is a better hand than 89s, and the odds are under 30%.

He couldn't be convinced.
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Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards      win   %win     lose  %lose   tie  %tie     EV
As Ac  1322321  77.22   384768  22.47  5215  0.30  0.774
9h 8h   384768  22.47  1322321  77.22  5215  0.30  0.226

Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards      win   %win     lose  %lose   tie  %tie     EV
As Ac  1314307  76.76   391582  22.87  6415  0.37  0.769
6h 5h   391582  22.87  1314307  76.76  6415  0.37  0.231
 
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red+black said:
Got into a friendly disagreement with a young chap yesterday that tried to convince me that 89 sooted was the best hand against pocket rockets. 46% he said! I calmly told him he was well wrong on two counts. 56s is a better hand than 89s, and the odds are under 30%.
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That matches my calcs. I get 22.4% for 98, and 22.9% for 65 (100k trials each) where the suit is different to the ace suits. It's also pretty obvious logically - 98 loses the straights when the board is KQJT.
 
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yep, 98s (and lower suited connectors) v AKo is getting towards 40-42%.

But nothing is almost a coinflip heads-up against AA.
 
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LOL, Mike Tyson wants to play next year's Aussie Millions.

I wanna bad beat him and knock him out of the Main Event, and say "How you like dem apples boy?"
 

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Finished work early yesterday and played for a few hours. Will just talk about my very last hand. I limp from the button, LAG Sri Lankan in the SB makes it 13 to go, UTG calls, two other callers, I call. Flop: Ad-9d-8h. He checks, UTG bets 40, fold, fold, I call, PFR folds.

Now UTG was a stupid old man, someone I'd like to slap across the face. Some players just annoy the ____ out of you because their stupidity offends you. On another hand, a guy bets 30, he says "I call your 30 and raise another 60." LOL, pub poker degenerate :rolleyes:. Back to my hand. Turn: 5d. He bets 50. I know he doesn't have a flush or a straight, I call. River bricks and he pushes, he has me covered.

Now because he's an idiot, I asked him (or the dealer) how much? I was not calling anyway, and then I asked him to push it out. For the cameras, anyone that announces all-in must push a bet out. So what does he do? He flips his hand over thinking I've called. He shows pocket 7s :rolleyes:. So funny, what a muppet. How I wish I had A2. Of course I had the only hand that couldn't call, JT for an OESD that didn't get there and didn't pair up along the way.

Some people are so stupid. He deserved to donk off a few hundred there.
 
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Had a good night. I'll post a couple hands, and ask for you to guess the exact hands my opponent and I had in one of them.

I had K2hh on the button and called a small raise pre-flop, maybe 4-5 runners. Flop 2-2-8h. SB bets 15, everyone folds, I raise to 40, he calls. 4h on the turn, I bet 50, he folds. He seemed frustrated, I tabled my hand so that he'd keep his cool. When he stacked off to me at a bit later, he did so obligingly, so it's a good spot to bust someone and for them to not be upset about it.

Young guy arrives at the table, posts from UTG. Dealer gave him the option to wait a hand, he declined. So he open-raises, and by the river, loses his entire $150 stack. LOL, should have sat out one hand. But he continues his aggressiveness on most hands, habitually c-betting, struggles to ever fold pre-flop or check post-flop. I guess it's a strategy that works for some. But repeating something Matt Matros said on the WPT episode from Friday night (an old episode, aren't they all), "there's a fine line between guts and stupidity". Where this kid sat, well, was debatable.

Anyway, he raises to 13, I'm on the button. I call. BB calls, one limper calls. Flop: [4h-9d-Qh]. Checks to the kid who bets 15. I consider my options, I'm thinking raise to 45, but I min-raise to 30. BB insta-calls, limper folds, kid calls. Turn: [4h-9d-Qh][7c]. BB checks, kid bets 50. Again, I'm going through my alternatives. I don't want to raise here, I call, BB folds. River: [4h-9d-Qh][7c][8s]. Kid confidently bets 100. I go all-in for just 25 more. He calls.

So, what hand did he have? And what did I have?

Kid again raises pre-flop soon after. I had limped from MP1 with 97dd, and I call the raise. Flop: 9-Jd-9. I bet 37, guy next to me calls. Turn: 9. I bet 20, other guy pushes for 80, I call. He has KJ and is drawing dead.
 
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red+black said:
Anyway, he raises to 13, I'm on the button. I call. BB calls, one limper calls. Flop: [4h-9d-Qh]. Checks to the kid who bets 15. I consider my options, I'm thinking raise to 45, but I min-raise to 30. BB insta-calls, limper folds, kid calls. Turn: [4h-9d-Qh][7c]. BB checks, kid bets 50. Again, I'm going through my alternatives. I don't want to raise here, I call, BB folds. River: [4h-9d-Qh][7c][8s]. Kid confidently bets 100. I go all-in for just 25 more. He calls.

So, what hand did he have? And what did I have?
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I'm not sure what the blinds are, but I'll assume something like 5/5. You obviously have a strong hand on the flop, since folding is not on the agenda. You just called PF, so I'd say 99 and QQ are unlikely as you would probably reraise these. I'm guessing you have 44. Bit surprised you only raise the min on the flop, given the flush draw possibility (looks like BB may have been drawing). Kid has some hand he thinks is invincible - I guess AQ, but by your description of the player it could really have been anything.
 
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Something gives me the feeling you played Jh 10h, for the flopped open ended straight draw and flush draw, min raising the flop for value. He could have AQ or KQs... or maybe a middle pair, as I know from watch free-league APL poker that low to medium pairds are overated by newbies
 
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Yes, I did have JThh and missed my flush :). He had 99 for middle set on the flop.

If only I had a bigger stack, he would have called a raise/push at the end knowing I'd missed my flush.
 
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red+black said:
Anyway, he raises to 13, I'm on the button. I call. BB calls, one limper calls. Flop: [4h-9d-Qh]. Checks to the kid who bets 15. I consider my options, I'm thinking raise to 45, but I min-raise to 30. BB insta-calls, limper folds, kid calls. Turn: [4h-9d-Qh][7c]. BB checks, kid bets 50. Again, I'm going through my alternatives. I don't want to raise here, I call, BB folds. River: [4h-9d-Qh][7c][8s]. Kid confidently bets 100. I go all-in for just 25 more. He calls.

So, what hand did he have? And what did I have?
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99 to his KQ?
 
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A black 8 on the river was probably the perfect card, although a Kc/Ks might have been even better, he might have then thought I had KQ.

56hh would have also got the job done. Imagine 56hh with a 3c/3s on the river, a set of 9s (the 3rd nuts) would be almost impossible to fold.
 
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red+black said:
Yes, I did have JThh and missed my flush :). He had 99 for middle set on the flop.

If only I had a bigger stack, he would have called a raise/push at the end knowing I'd missed my flush.
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Just call me brilliant:D.

No way he is laying down a set, even with how it ended up, within reason. Sets are too rare to lay down. Maybe he evens calls if the last heart comes on the river. Obviously you have played against him and know him, we dont. But with a straighting board, he wont lay down his set.

99 sheesh...
 
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Anyone else receive a free copy of Ralph magazine from Crown Casino in the mail?
 
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