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Angeleyes is getting smashed.

At first she seemed content to swim along in the same school with the others, but now they've dropped off she is on her own.

At first it was all about the Bulldogs figures, how we're up around them, it's all about what constitues a record figure. And following that falling over it's about bollocks arguments of sustainability.

I sincerely hope she continues on with the posting, it's a pisser to read. It's like watching North Board regulars line up to take a swing at a slow under arm full toss.
 
Thanks for pointing that out though, if the Dogs currently have 4000 non ticketed members surely your club would have similar numbers so your real membership level is around 25,000 or still 3,500 short of the Bulldogs' record membership from 2007.

I think you will also find the Vic Uni tickets aren't included in this non-ticketed category as they gave 8,000 away which is more than their non-ticketed amount.

Thank you for finding evidence that would suggest I am correct. Infact, whats your record 26,000 ticketed? You're very possibly not even ahead of that!?!?!

What are you basing that on? Do you know the exact amount of how many non-ticketed members the Dogs have?

Why would you assume that we have the same amount as the Dogs? It is possible that the Dogs have more because their supporter base might not be as affluent as ours. And that is not a crack at the Western Suburbs. I grew up NW of Melbourne and went to uni in St Albans. I love the Western Suburbs.

Where do you get the figure 8,000 from? Id like to see some sort of FACTUAL evidence if you can provide it.

North Melbournes ticketed membership record was 24700 set in 2006.
 

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Essendon 36933. Includes non matchday members.

I'm not sure how many of those 36933 people who signed up are non matchday members.
 
You might never concede you've lost an argument. I often "lose" arguments because some one has successfully put an superior alternative case.

And what is the superior case here? Since BOTH clubs have been using the MCG (1995 onwards) both clubs average almost an identical average crowd from all 286 H&A games. You cannot argue against this UNLESS you begin to pick apart the stats and use selective years and selective examples to suit your particular case. Anyon dimwit can do that. The broad numbers of 286 games show both clubs average about 47,500.

Anyone can then "pick apart" the stats to find something in them to suit their own argument. The broad numbers over ALL games tell the story without the need by Pie fans and pick apart number that suit them.

The fact that you refer to a survey's results as inferring a FACT about the population demonstrates that you don't understand statistics. Particulalry a survey that has no reference to insure against non-sampling errors.

Essendon have led the Roy Morgan survey over Collingeood for 7 consecutive years. It is not a one-off. It is a not a "random fluke." It has been that way ever since the survey began over 7 consecutive years. I guess if Collingwood had "won" the survey you'd be jumping all over it, but when Essendon win (for 7 years ina row mind you, Hahaha) you claim "non-sampling error"

I guess "non-sampling error" has coincidentally favored Essendon over Collingwood 7 years in a row. Yeah right :rolleyes:

There is nothing objective about selecting 1995 as a start year

See above. Before 1995, Collingwood was still playing 7 games at Vic Park. That is why 1995 was used as the starting point. It is the most relevant and the fairest starting point for a modern day comaprison.
 
Any truth to the rumour that if you use the gym at Windy Hill youre counted as a Bombers member..? A mate of mine has been a Carlton memeber for years, uses the Windy Hill gym and receives membership info from the Bombers
 
Ticketed and non-ticketed before the weekend was a touch under 27k for the Dogs. Hopefully the 95 point win will sell a fair few memberships this week.

Not such a bad effort considering the disgraceful end to last year.
 

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Roos this weekend topped 29K! Not bad for a team that has lost 3 of it's past 4 games for an aggregate of 250 points :)

Seriously, it's a top effort. We'd be looking for at least 32K before the cut off date, hopefully higher if we get back to our winning ways again.
That is a good effort. Just gotta make sure you keep it up and buy memberships in 2009 too.
 
And from 2005-2007, Essendon have been shit. What's your point? The reason 1995 has been used as the starting point is obviously because before that year Collingwood was still playing up to 7 games at Victoria Park! 1995 was the first yeat BOTH clubs were using the MCG for nearly all home games. I mentioned this. Didn't you read?




And what is the superior case here? Since BOTH clubs have been using the MCG (1995 onwards) both clubs average almost an identical average crowd from all 286 H&A games. You cannot argue against this UNLESS you begin to pick apart the stats and use selective years and selective examples to suit your particular case. Anyon dimwit can do that. The broad numbers of 286 games show both clubs average about 47,500.

Anyone can then "pick apart" the stats to find something in them to suit their own argument. The broad numbers over ALL games tell the story without the need by Pie fans and pick apart number that suit them.



Essendon have led the Roy Morgan survey over Collingeood for 7 consecutive years. It is not a one-off. It is a not a "random fluke." It has been that way ever since the survey began over 7 consecutive years. I guess if Collingwood had "won" the survey you'd be jumping all over it, but when Essendon win (for 7 years ina row mind you, Hahaha) you claim "non-sampling error"

I guess "non-sampling error" has coincidentally favored Essendon over Collingwood 7 years in a row. Yeah right :rolleyes:



See above. Before 1995, Collingwood was still playing 7 games at Vic Park. That is why 1995 was used as the starting point. It is the most relevant and the fairest starting point for a modern day comaprison.

And Collingwood during the past 6 years has smahed essendon in attendances and memberships! Just face it,Collingwood are the Biggest Victorian Club in Australia! Stop looking back at 1995 that was bloody 13 years ago.

Until Essendon start getting bigger crowds and members then Collingwood How can they be considered a bigger Club!:rolleyes:
 
Well the going was bad last year. Spooner bad. we were the best supported spooners in history. The best in history. Not bad for bandwagoners. We were also the first club to average over 50,000 at home and that was back when average crowds were nothing much. Huge when winning and bigger than anyone else when losing.

Essendon have hardly set the world on fire the last few years, check our crowds out. Either first or second, year in year out no matter where we finish.
 
How are we meant to get bigger crowds then you, when your playing 15 odd games at a ground that holds 100,000 while we only play there 4 times?
 
Hawthorn up to 33,013. Take out 3,693 (10% of total Essendon members) and all of a sudden Hawthorn have a fantastic membership base.

I wonder how many of those 33,013 were part of the crowd of 11,000 you got against Port Adelaide a couple of years ago when you were struggling? Would make for some interesting figures.
 
And Collingwood during the past 6 years has smahed essendon in attendances and memberships! Just face it,Collingwood are the Biggest Victorian Club in Australia! Stop looking back at 1995 that was bloody 13 years ago.

Until Essendon start getting bigger crowds and members then Collingwood How can they be considered a bigger Club!:rolleyes:


Maybe because Essendon also win Premierships! :rolleyes:

Also you might weant to do your research a little better. Collingwood has only started beating Essendon in attendences since we moved to the dome. When we were both tenants of the MCG we smashed you for numbers.
 
Greg Swan reports yesterday on MMM that Blues are now over 35,000 members and just under the club record of 35,500 set last year.

On target to hit 40,000
 
And Collingwood during the past 6 years has smahed essendon in attendances and memberships! Just face it,Collingwood are the Biggest Victorian Club in Australia! Stop looking back at 1995 that was bloody 13 years ago.

Until Essendon start getting bigger crowds and members then Collingwood How can they be considered a bigger Club!:rolleyes:

Maybe because Essendon also win Premierships! :rolleyes:

Also you might weant to do your research a little better. Collingwood has only started beating Essendon in attendences since we moved to the dome. When we were both tenants of the MCG we smashed you for numbers.

No, i'm saying the structure of your post didn't make sense in the context of the post you quoted.


I pointed out that their is more to being a big club then "attendence records". Being successful and winning premierships also has a huge bearing. The guy i quoted tends to think Collingwood is the biggest club in Australia because they get the biggest crowds. How does it not make sense? Win more than one flag in 50 years and then we can talk.
 

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