Joe average can walk out of games wen we are being thrashed. It's not good optics for the club or Afl.
News Dan Houston traded to Collingwood
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Half back is easiest position to get stats but it's not the easiest position to play.
There is no other player dare I say in the AFL that can read opposition structures and set up our attacks better than Houston.
Sydney and Geelong exposed us for this.
Boak and Gray at least do have multiple great finals games.
Rozee, Butters and JHF are literally sitting on zero good finals games. Zero! How there isn't a single one that they've played at an elite level is something.
Rozee, Butters and JHF are literally sitting on zero good finals games. Zero! How there isn't a single one that they've played at an elite level is something.
Adam Treloar and Brodie Grundy say hi.
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We’ve been well and truly shafted
Yep, this is coming.
No other club in the competition would give away a Top 3 player on their list for package that includes Lukosius, Rory Atkins, Joe RIchards, Pick 29, some late pick upgrades (the F1 and 13 cancel each other out).
It is absolutely mind boggingly insane.
It is absolutely mind boggingly insane.
That’s what 50 was for, to give back to the Swans as part of the deal.
13 / 50 for 20 / 23
Alternatively, we’ll combine 36 and 50 to get another pick between 20 and 30, with a fourth rounder coming back.
That way we only have to draft three players (all in top 30), and then use the fourth rounder to match for Barrett. We then have enough vacant list spots to rookie Burgoyne and maybe Montgomery.
Basically, Atkins then occupies the place on our list that pick 50 could have taken as our fourth draft pick before Benny Barrett.
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Thanks for the info but those number upgrades seem irrelevant
Scully has been a big disappointment after watching his raw talent when he was first drafted. Our failure to improve him has been concerning.
What’s really damning about how weak we have been is that Richmond got the 23 (with 6) from GC for Rioli, leaving us the 29 (with 13 and Richards) for Houston.
Given we gave GC a F1R for Lukosius and took on Lukosius and Atkins’ salaries for no other real benefit except minor R2 and R3 upgrades, you’d think GC could have been decent enough to give us the 23 and tell Richmond to be happy enough with 29.
Given we gave GC a F1R for Lukosius and took on Lukosius and Atkins’ salaries for no other real benefit except minor R2 and R3 upgrades, you’d think GC could have been decent enough to give us the 23 and tell Richmond to be happy enough with 29.
Combining 36 & 50 for a pick 20-30 is a good move. Your strategy has good logic.
Yeh that really irks me
Reckon he is improving. Playing tall forward, sometimes the only one, in that Magpies team would have been very difficult. He deserves another year on a 1y contract to see if he can get bigger, more aggressive, more dangerous and more consistent.
The difference is Richmond has a strategy and bargain hard for their players, aren't pushovers.
We on the other hand have Davies and Cripps.
Alternatively, we bundle 50 with Soldo to get someone’s mid-late second rounder. That way we can use his vacated list spot to add another top-40 kid we like, maybe even the big ruck-forward from WA.
Agree, none of those players should be in our team.
Nelso
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It is pretty obvious that Houston played us like a fool. He never had our best interests at heart even though he publically declared that he just wanted to go back home to Victoria.
He was never going to one of the lesser clubs in Melbourne.
We need to disband the list management team at the club and start again as every other club in the league will think we cave in to meet their demands.
There should be some reason for every player on the list. Having mcentee, clurey, Williams and adding atkins is too much list clogging.
Yep. Especially when at the end of 2025, when some of them come out of contract (McEntee, Atkins) we won’t have good draft picks to use to replace them, so they’ll just be substituted by more spuds.
LMFAO - COLLINGWOOD LITERALLY ONLY SPENT 1 1ST ROUNDER FOR A 2 TIME ALL AUSTRALIAN, TOP 3 PLAYER OF ANOTHER CLUB, THE BEST KICK IN THE ENTIRE COMPETITION, WITH 3 FRIGGIN YEARS LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT. 1.
ITS ACTUALLY REAL.
ITS ACTUALLY REAL.
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Dan is a very good player and we got unders for him but the backline was very good and much more accountable on the back end of the year and when Houston was out suspended. Houston can be a liability defensively and caught out. Not as much as Burton but he still can.
And as people have stated, the two finals we lost against Geelong and Sydney, we lost in the coaching box and the midfield, not the backline.
The position of QB seagull he played in our team is probably the one with the most obvious glam factor positions in the entire AFL and it was no coincidence that Jase Burgoyne picked up 10 coaches votes and looked like the Second Coming of Dan Houston himself when he was put in the QB seagull role against the Hawks.
Whoever is put there and I personally would put Kane Farrell there will have a great year and you all should get on board for his Fantasy Points.
Dan is awesome but I think very replaceable but we will see. It's time for guys to step up. Allir, Zerk and Bergman as the talls. Farrell, Lachie Jones, Levans and Sinn as our medium defenders. A lot to work with there. A lot more versatility, height athleticism and defensive play.
And as people have stated, the two finals we lost against Geelong and Sydney, we lost in the coaching box and the midfield, not the backline.
The position of QB seagull he played in our team is probably the one with the most obvious glam factor positions in the entire AFL and it was no coincidence that Jase Burgoyne picked up 10 coaches votes and looked like the Second Coming of Dan Houston himself when he was put in the QB seagull role against the Hawks.
Whoever is put there and I personally would put Kane Farrell there will have a great year and you all should get on board for his Fantasy Points.
Dan is awesome but I think very replaceable but we will see. It's time for guys to step up. Allir, Zerk and Bergman as the talls. Farrell, Lachie Jones, Levans and Sinn as our medium defenders. A lot to work with there. A lot more versatility, height athleticism and defensive play.
Nelso
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Say what?
That Geelong final our entire backline was all at sea. The small forwards of Geelong ran rings around us as they were continually allowed space and get behind us to score easy goals. There was no accountability from any of our defenders. Yes they did not have much chance because of how shit our midfield was that night but there were numerous comical defending efforts.
I'll put it like this. Any time our midfield broke even or better, the backline was very good.
In those two games, the midfield was smashed which makes it very difficult in the backline and they looked terrible because quality ball is coming in.
I'm going to say this. The Geelong and Sydney finals were lost before a ball was bounced. Hinkley's strategies against Scott and Longmire were too little against two very good operators and we know Kenny Average won't adjust.
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