News Dan Houston traded to Collingwood

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Shaucob_Burjan said:
This is contradictory as we didn't hesitate to move our future first (this year's first) for depth players last year.

Football department is not aligned.
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My guess on that front was that they saw getting Soldo, Rat, BZT etc as the final missing piece of the puzzle to what they deemed was a premiership list.
 
Jonts said:
The whole concept of port allowing/not challenging Houston when he said I'll stay if a deal can't be done then not accepting a F1 from North Melbourne doesn't sit right with me. Kane cornes was right (eww) the whole AFL industry isn't ruthless enough
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Melbourne are the benchmark now. Clarry pushed for a move to Geelong. Dees told him to get ****ed.
 

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Coobk001 said:
It's a real shame we're going to lose an absolute jet, and the best we'll get is a speculative pick 13. Far out. We're going to need to absolutely nail that pick, and pull another Butters out of our hat.

It's criminal how much Houston has been under rated in the thinking around this trade. We really should be walking away.
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Just watch us pull another Moore out of the hat with that pick.
 
C4[2]Yo`DooR said:
The club should be ballsy and ask for Alan Didak just to **** with their heads again.
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He’d still be worth more than the Pick 17 and Steve McKee they offered for Nick Stevens.
 
Chewy316 said:
My guess on that front was that they saw getting Soldo, Rat, BZT etc as the final missing piece of the puzzle to what they deemed was a premiership list.
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Maybe they should've gotten some good players instead.

(apologies to BZT, he's alright)
 
Chewy316 said:
I put this concept to someone at Port yesterday, and they snapped saying that the value of their future 1st is significantly less than a pick in the teens in this draft.

They believe that the quality of this draft is much, much better than next year, which is why they're likely going to give up a future 1 to get this deal done in the next week.

I personally don't agree with it, but that's the rationale of thinking down there.
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Pretty funny considering that they traded out this year's first to bring in some magic beans.

Edit: I see this point has been made several times already, but it bears repeating.
 
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Schulzenfest said:
Maybe they should've gotten some good players instead.

(apologies to BZT, he's alright)
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Getting Rat was a good idea. Without him, we are an injury away rom Bergman on Hogan.

People forget that his first half a season was very good, taking plenty of intercept marks and being moved forward and taking multiple contested marks. Fell off after that but not the dreadful season those with goldfish memory are making out. We still need him.
 
Coobk001 said:
Is that what they offered? Do we know who pick 17 ended up being?
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Billy Morrison as I recall.

Yes, exactly.

(David Mundy and Sam Butler at 19 and 20)
 
shewho said:
Getting Rat was a good idea. Without him, we are an injury away rom Bergman on Hogan.

People forget that his first half a season was very good, taking plenty of intercept marks and being moved forward and taking multiple contested marks. Fell off after that but not the dreadful season those with goldfish memory are making out. We still need him.
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The issue isnt how good or bad he is. His season came after the trade so cant be used in judging the trade.

The issue is he was a fringe player at Geelong who had tried to leave for two years and we could have taken for free. We had all the leverage for a player who would by most objective statistical analyses be rated around pick 40-60.

Geelong said they wanted a first rounder with zero justification AND zero leverage... and we still managed to cave.

So yes I agree getting him was a good idea. It should have been as simple as putting pick 40 on the table and telling Geelong take it or we draft him.
 

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Like i posted yesterday, the only sensible thing to do is to work out a deal with North Melbourne, they have more to deal with and why in hell would we want Collingwood and Carlton to get stronger, seeing they are two clubs we will be competing with for a finals spot.

Once Dan said he wants out and that entails breaking a contract, Port must look after the club and get the best possible deal, if that means North so be it.

Face it when Dan is playing for the opposition, we won't have any care factor for him and he won't hold back in trying his best when playing against Port.

Like I said when he sets foot away from Alberton he is then the enemy.
 
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Chewy316 said:
My guess on that front was that they saw getting Soldo, Rat, BZT etc as the final missing piece of the puzzle to what they deemed was a premiership list.
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Which makes an absolute mockery out of keeping Ken.

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Chewy316 said:
My guess on that front was that they saw getting Soldo, Rat, BZT etc as the final missing piece of the puzzle to what they deemed was a premiership list.
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The same list they said was crap mid-season. They are really running a tight operation down there
 
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Us against the rest said:
Like i posted yesterday, the only sensible thing to do is to work out a deal with North Melbourne, they have more to deal with and why in hell would we want Collingwood and Carlton to get stronger, seeing they are two clubs we will be competing with for a finals spot.

Once Dan said he wants out and that entails breaking a contract, Port must look after the club and get the best possible deal, if that means North so be it.

Face when Dan is playing for the opposition, we won't have any care factor for him and he won't hold back in trying his best when playing against Port.

Like I said when he sets foot away from Alberton he is then the enemy.
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Unfortunately, Port are people pleasers.

Making a fellow finals contender stronger and granting a player their wish would be seen as a win within the walls of Alberton, where it's all about being good people as opposed to ruthless.

It's also why we watch on while other clubs taste the real success.
 
Bump Bailey said:
Unfortunately, Port are people pleasers.

Making a fellow finals contender stronger and granting a player their wish would be seen as a win within the walls of Alberton, where it's all about being good people as opposed to ruthless.

It's also why we watch on while other clubs taste the real success.
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People continue to underestimate the shitshow position we are in.

Wouldn't be surprised if Cardone has got on the phone with Davies to make sure things are moving along smoothly.
 
shewho said:
Getting Rat was a good idea. Without him, we are an injury away rom Bergman on Hogan.

People forget that his first half a season was very good, taking plenty of intercept marks and being moved forward and taking multiple contested marks. Fell off after that but not the dreadful season those with goldfish memory are making out. We still need him.
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Since 2018 our strategy has been to trade next year's first and then next year trade players to get back into the draft, that will continue where in future players like Bergman and Butters are potential flight risks.

The objective last year was to trade in some resources to improve both defence and the ruck, where people seems to forget Geelong demanding next year's first founder for Esava. Splitting it for a brace of second rounders stopped the Geelong whinging and enabled a trade for Solda where both Sav & Ivan were outstanding for us early, before Ivan was injured.

This year the objective is to improve the forward line where Richards & Luko will assist with and improve our goal scoring capacity.
 
Coobk001 said:
Is that what they offered? Do we know who pick 17 ended up being?
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2003 was a terrible draft, but I guess there was a chance we grab Mundy (who was an U18 key defender).
 
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