Analysis Danger on Tim Kelly + his 2020 contract

What would be an adequate trade for Tim Kelly?

  • Brad AND Steven Hill from Fremantle

    Votes: 6 4.3%
  • Someone from West Coast

    Votes: 11 7.8%
  • Two top-end draft picks

    Votes: 88 62.4%
  • Top-end draft pick and player

    Votes: 24 17.0%
  • Other (please specify) ______________

    Votes: 12 8.5%

  • Total voters
    141

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Waterman is also getting games and he's alot better than many on here think he is but he's a WA boy and the reason why he was picked up so late is that he was a father/son selection. Son of the great Chris Waterman.
 
Wouldn't even consider either of them in a Tim Kelly trade.
Not even close to worthy
Petrucelle is a one way runner with little in way of tricks
Waterman cannot get a game ahead of new boy Allen
We need something of value thank you. Something equivalent to the value of Yeo if that helps your thought process
 
They couldn't trade up their picks last year and I doubt they will this year. They want him for nothing. Ridiculous. Why don't we give them Danger to go along with the deal. We need to ask for better than they are willing to offer. WA kid doesn't want to go then ask them for better

deep breath. Its just the system.. Of course we will ask.. I'm just saying that its almost 100% that will not happen.
The nothing thing isn't really correct .. and getting two top 5 picks still may not give us the players we want ..while 3 R2 picks may. Its a bit a of dice roll. The averages say the earlier the pick the better chance we have so I think they need to find a top 10 pick to go with their later one. Nearly all the deal ..like Treloar in recent times have set the standard.
perochelli to the dogs may help a deal get done ..if there is any truth to that...
 
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Waterman is also getting games and he's alot better than many on here think he is but he's a WA boy and the reason why he was picked up so late is that he was a father/son selection. Son of the great Chris Waterman.

as I said..if he is that good ...get another R1 from a club like North or Port Im sure they would be intereted. Trade him to Freo for their R1 if he wants to stay in WA. You can trade with them cant you?
Fact is I doubt anyone would think he is worth anything more than a pick in the 30's.. at best.
 
Was a classy goal Waterman kicked on the weekend. Think there is talent there but wouldn't want him as part of any trade.
 
deep breath. Its just the system.. Of course we will ask.. I'm just saying that its almost 100% that will not happen.
The nothing thing isn't really correct .. and getting two top 5 picks still may not give us the players we want ..while 3 R2 picks may. Its a bit a of dice roll. The averages say the ealier the pick the better chance we have so I think they need to find a top 10 pick to go with their later one. Nearly all the deal ..like Treloar in recent times have set the standard.
perochelli to the dogs may help a deal get done ..if there is any truth to that...
I think a deal with WC will hurt us
Now Freo have released Ross Lyon and their CEO, maybe a decent deal can be transacted.
I think a new coach will make some big changes at Freo. Perhaps something that will entice Tim Kelly and release to us
Their first rounder will be a good one and they have some useful players willing to leave. They may be used in a three way to get a second decent pick
 
as I said..if he is that good ...get another R1 from a club like North or Port Im sure they would be intereted. Trade him to Freo for their R1 if he wants to stay in WA. You can trade with them cant you?
Fact is I doubt anyone would think he is worth anything more than a pick in the 30's.. at best.
I think time will tell that Waterman will have a good career. As much as I'd love to have him and hope Westcoast makes it happen the fact is If the trade doesn't get done we'll try to get midfielders from the draft or other clubs willing to accept our offers. We won a premiership without Kelly. We didn't compromise last year on our offers and probably won't this year.
Remember it's Kelly that nominated us initially as his club of choice.
Waterman is a B+ with potential to be an A grader. He could slot in your forward line now.
 
I think a deal with WC will hurt us
Now Freo have released Ross Lyon and their CEO, maybe a decent deal can be transacted.
I think a new coach will make some big changes at Freo. Perhaps something that will entice Tim Kelly and release to us
Their first rounder will be a good one and they have some useful players willing to leave. They may be used in a three way to get a second decent pick

With Hill and Langdon out Freo are going to be loaded with cap and picks. They would be firming in the market.

Also losing to them I think helped.
 
I think time will tell that Waterman will have a good career. As much as I'd love to have him and hope Westcoast makes it happen the fact is If the trade doesn't get done we'll try to get midfielders from the draft or other clubs willing to accept our offers. We won a premiership without Kelly. We didn't compromise last year on our offers and probably won't this year.
Remember it's Kelly that nominated us initially as his club of choice.
Waterman is a B+ with potential to be an A grader. He could slot in your forward line now.
Yep sounds like your intune with the wc mindset ... once it gets done tough then you start with the walk away talk. I agree that you are a good side ...but you either want him or you dont.. you cant want him as long as we get him for what is affordably disposable. getting him comes with a degree of pain .. cant do that then wc should have told him ages ago ..sorry we are not willing to pay for you.

By your assesment.. you are offering a B+ plus player and a late R1.. ..I think you may be walking away..
 
Wouldn't even consider either of them in a Tim Kelly trade.
Not even close to worthy
Petrucelle is a one way runner with little in way of tricks
Waterman cannot get a game ahead of new boy Allen
We need something of value thank you. Something equivalent to the value of Yeo if that helps your thought process

Not much in way of tricks??
 

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Precisely my point
Petrucelle comes from a basketball background. He's still learning the game. Given time he can be anything. Some players take time.
I remember Ablett was just a good player in his early days before he became the best. Many midfielders that started roughly the same time as him showed more before he surpassed them.
There was a time if you asked neutral supporters who would you take out of Gary Ablett and Daniel Kerr. The answer would have been Kerr until Ablett rose to another level.
 
Why are you trying to convince us? They are not worth TK so just stop.

The price will be 2 x first rounders with one being in the top 10.

Your club will need to get creative.

Otherwise we turn to Freo who will have those picks and by all reports, TK is open to Freo.

Very doubtful WC end up with Kelly as you don’t have good enough picks.
 
I'd look at Oscar Allen and and improved first rounder at about 10
If they want to bolster their midfield when they have so many forward options, that is the only one I'd consider
Let Brander replace Kennedy and Waterman be their third with Darling
If WC, a top 10 pick and Allen
If Freo, their first round pick and Darcy or this year's and next year's first rounder
Both options fill one of our holes with a player and give us a high first rounder and in return they get an All Australian mid

Want a WA boy to leave the Eagles, whats in it for him are you thinking? Not out of contract.
Note Oscar resigned about the time Kel would have been approached in 2018, just as Jordan Clark was re signed in April 2019.
 
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