Dangerfield....could we get him?

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TennisPlayerAndy said:
Would Rory Sloane add more value to the side than Gibson, bearing in mind that Gibson is unrivaled in his ability to cover enormous amounts of ground over the course of a game providing an option at every opportunity.

Not at all sure he would, seeing as we have Swallow, Cunners, Jack, Wells, Dal all through the middle.
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I rate your opinion highly. Your opinion here is way off for mine.

Sloane brings a multitude of talents Gibbo cant in addition to tank (skill execution, hardness, leadership). He is a high quality mid and i'm surprised you view him so lowly.

In our team i'd have Sloane over Dal Santo any day of the week. And tomorrow.

If he were to come to us he would be arguably our best mid with Swallow and Cunners staking their claim, and Wells as our ultra talented but inconsistent burst mid.
 
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I'm probably the odd one out, but I think Dangers game style is already having an injury hampering effect on his body.

I'd be surprised if he has that same explosiveness this year that he showed two or three years back.

Now he'll probably kick 50 goals from the guts, bnf, take home the Charlie and join Sydney.
 
Saintly31 said:
I rate your opinion highly. Your opinion here is way off for mine.

Sloane brings a multitude of talents Gibbo cant in addition to tank (skill execution, hardness, leadership). He is a high quality mid and i'm surprised you view him so lowly.

In our team i'd have Sloane over Dal Santo any day of the week. And tomorrow.

If he were to come to us he would be arguably our best mid with Swallow and Cunners staking their claim, and Wells as our ultra talented but inconsistent burst mid.
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My view is clouded slightly by the fact that he was destroyed by a first year player in our last meeting.

I don't see him as a highly skillful footballer. Hard? Shit yeah. Leadership? I couldn't tell you too much about his leadership abilities but Gibson is clearly rated by the playing group and the coaching staff for his leadership capabilities.

IMO Sloane doesn't possess any absolute stand out qualities and isnt overly damaging or creative with ball in hand.

I'd have Swallow, Dal, Cunners, Jack, Wells and Boomer before I'd take Rory.
 
muttley45 said:
Rory Sloane also out of contract next year IIRC, he might want to return to the big V, Tex trotted out the line on 3AW that " Rory and Patrick are no more important than any of the other 45 on our list ", not a glowing recommendation, and he is a pretty ordinary media performer too, good times ahead for media speculation and distractions
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His whole family has moved to S.A mutts.......I doubt he is leaving. But gee I love the way this kid plays.
 
TennisPlayerAndy said:
My view is clouded slightly by the fact that he was destroyed by a first year player in our last meeting.

I don't see him as a highly skillful footballer. Hard? Shit yeah. Leadership? I couldn't tell you too much about his leadership abilities but Gibson is clearly rated by the playing group and the coaching staff for his leadership capabilities.

IMO Sloane doesn't possess any absolute stand out qualities and isnt overly damaging or creative with ball in hand.

I'd have Swallow, Dal, Cunners, Jack, Wells and Boomer before I'd take Rory.
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Sloane is not a silky smooth mid with a massive stand out quality I agree.

But he runs all day like Gibson, has the toughness of Jack/Spitta, seems to lead from the front on and off field (Gibbo has massive faults as much as he works hard), kicks pretty well and does all the 1%ers.

I'd have him at Nth tomorrow if he was available. Sloane would get a game for any club including Hawks and whilst not as damaging as Dangerfield, he is more consistent.

People mightn't understand the Sloane "love in", I don't get the Dangerfield "love in". The latter is quality yes, but really not that great for what he would want at free agency.
 
Saintly31 said:
Sloane is not a silky smooth mid I agree. He is neither

But he runs all day like Gibson, has the toughness of Jack/Spitta, seems to lead from the front on and off field (Gibbo has massive faults as much as he works hard) and kicks pretty well.

I'd have him at Nth tomorrow if he was available. Sloane would get a game for any club including Hawks and whilst not as damaging as Dangerfield, he is far more consistent.

People mightn't understand the Sloane "love in", I don't get the Dangerfield "love in". He is quality, but really not that great.
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I don't see the Dangerfield love either.

To me, he is all style over substance.

Looks great bursting through a pack, kicks it anywhere and is lauded for it.
 
TennisPlayerAndy said:
I don't see the Dangerfield love either.

To me, he is all style over substance.

Looks great bursting through a pack, kicks it anywhere and is lauded for it.
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Exactly! That's what I see as well.

He is a gun when it all clicks sure but to me he is a bit limited compared to the very best mids. His pace is ultra high but his kicking is poor, he can get beaten by a decent tagger, and (maybe) would want massive dollars to move as a free agent?

No thanks. Could get two players for that money and we would be much better with that for mine.

I actually would have Fyfe before Dangerfield. But maybe that's just me.
 
Saintly31 said:
Exactly! That's what I see as well.

He is a gun when it all clicks sure but to me he is a bit limited compared to the very best mids. His pace is ultra high but his kicking is poor, he can get beaten by a decent tagger, and (maybe) would want massive dollars to move as a free agent?

No thanks. Could get two players for that money and we would be much better with that for mine.

I actually would have Fyfe before Dangerfield. But maybe that's just me.
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I'd be concerned for anyone that would want Dangerfield over Fyfe. Fyfe will be the best player in the AFL soon and perhaps by the end of his career will be considered the player of his generation he is that good.
Also agree with you on Sloane, his standout attribute is his work-rate and commitment, I'd love him at North. As much as I like and rate Gibbo i'd rather have Sloane every day of the week.
 

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Saintly31 said:
Exactly! That's what I see as well.

He is a gun when it all clicks sure but to me he is a bit limited compared to the very best mids. His pace is ultra high but his kicking is poor, he can get beaten by a decent tagger, and (maybe) would want massive dollars to move as a free agent?

No thanks. Could get two players for that money and we would be much better with that for mine.

I actually would have Fyfe before Dangerfield. But maybe that's just me.
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Definitely not just you, I would have Fyfe over Danger all day.

I really like both Danger and Sloane and think they would both fit in well at North, but am not convinced that either would be worth the money it would probably take to land them. Now, if a couple of the GWS kids want to come home to Vic however, I would be all in on trying to get an Adam Treloar or a Toby Greene.
 
Dangerfield does not fit our previous trading criteria of older cheaper Free Agents.

To get him he'd automatically become the highest paid player on our list and personally I cannot see us doing that.

You can put a quantifier on it like "He'd have to come for the right price" but that would just about automatically put you out of the race for him.

Would he bring us a flag? if the answer is yes it would justify what we'd need to spend.
 
Shagga is all Class said:
Danger. No. Would throw our list balance and cost us money or players in the end.

Would rather keep Swallow and have a dip at someone like Suckling.
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Not only that but it would throw off the leadership group ..............
 
I like the way that we have built the club from the ground up. We went out and got a new and untried coach and backed him and the recruiters in to draft a list that was going to get us back up the ladder. We have topped up with some older experienced players to fill specific roles and it is starting to pay off.
Going out and splashing 5-10% of the salary cap on a marque player like Daingerfield seems like if would be a backwards step in pur development and would hurt the culture that weve built.
 
muttley45 said:
Rory Sloane also out of contract next year IIRC, he might want to return to the big V, Tex trotted out the line on 3AW that " Rory and Patrick are no more important than any of the other 45 on our list ", not a glowing recommendation, and he is a pretty ordinary media performer too, good times ahead for media speculation and distractions
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I also got the impression from the coach that he is a hard arse; basically, it is my way or the highway.

I might be wrong, but if Adelaide have a bad year, there may be a few players there looking to move.
 
@6PRSportsToday: Brad Hardie says St Kilda is leading candidate for services Rory Sloane at seasons end.Grew up Saints fan & big money
 
saints wont be in the Finals by the time Sloane retires
wot possible interest is there for a good player to do that
heading to a low rung team for the dough now that's The Greenwood Manoeuvre
 
Reginald0 said:
saints wont be in the Finals by the time Sloane retires
wot possible interest is there for a good player to do that
heading to a low rung team for the dough now that's The Greenwood Manoeuvre
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Maybe. I'd agree in principle but I suspect that Free Agency is starting to have more effect. It might only take 2-3 players making that change to put a different angle on a traditional rebuild.
 
Saintly31 said:
I rate your opinion highly. Your opinion here is way off for mine.

Sloane brings a multitude of talents Gibbo cant in addition to tank (skill execution, hardness, leadership). He is a high quality mid and i'm surprised you view him so lowly.

In our team i'd have Sloane over Dal Santo any day of the week. And tomorrow.

If he were to come to us he would be arguably our best mid with Swallow and Cunners staking their claim, and Wells as our ultra talented but inconsistent burst mid.
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Gibson on par with Sloane?

Please, he isn't fit to carry Rory's bag into the ground despite obviously having the tank to get up the stairs.

Some context:

Is the 7th best player on those AFL rankings.

The same rankings that places Gibbo @ 241 (for those interested in a dose of reality)
 

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Dangerfield....could we get him?

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