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Vic Daniel Andrews and the Statue of Limitations
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I’m assuming you’re talking about RUOK day? That’s just a very small part of it. Peetoo knows he was taking the piss out of mental health, hence he changed his post.
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In a previous job the OH&S represntative was also the RUOK one
Most believed that he was on the spectrum and had limited insight into his own behaviour let alone insight, imagination or empathy into anybody else's
He was also a gossip monger of monumental proportions (worse than a groups of tradies sitting round at smoko) and nobody would confide in him anything least it be fed back to management in whispered closed door discussions
We always had posters om every simple door and in the break room though
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You can support close colleagues in many ways without the RUOK stuff. For workers in the same organisation you don’t really know, it’s fairly blunt instrument just hope their colleagues are supportive in times of need.
But when they said we should be on the lookout when we were only seeing people on teams? That was just counter intuitive
But when they said we should be on the lookout when we were only seeing people on teams? That was just counter intuitive
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but the bike tboned the car according to dan
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Even worse than Jeff "I worship Hawthorn hawks" Kennet?
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People on the left side of politics will say Dan was better than Jeff, and vice versa. For me there was no comparison. Jeff inherited a mess and tried to fix it, getting himself voted out after two terms. He took his just desserts and moved on. He's now an old and largely irrelevant man.
Jeff also had a sense of humour. I recall in about 1995 or 1996 a group of us were on one of those charity walks around Albert Park Lake, and at the end of the walk Jeff sidled up to us for a chat and laugh. We were nobodies. He was just enjoying himself and mingling with the throngs. My point is you would never ever have seen Dan mix with the public like that. Everything was scripted for him and he simply would not put himself in a situation where he did not have absolute control.
The financial mess Dan has created and the absolute deterioration in transparency under his government far outweigh anything Jeff's government did. And you need to remember Kennett inherited what at the time was a shocking mess left behind by another Labor government, whereas Dan inherited a state in good financial state. Dan may have had the best intentions with his Big Build initiatives, but because everything was rushed with no due diligence, and because of the "CFMEU factor" for which I blame Labor 100%, good initiatives have become costly time bombs.
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clean up on aisle 4
Behave yourselves.
Behave yourselves.
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Jeff didn’t get long enough to stuff up badly… and he left the stat e and his party in good nick
Oh wait. 2 outta 3 ain’t bad
Oh wait. 2 outta 3 ain’t bad
There were literally public servants in 1992 who didn't do anything. Under Cain departments just made bids for money and they got approved. The State Bank of Victoria was sold by Kirner, who allowed poker machines and began the casino process (because they had no money).
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Kennett had no choice but to sell everything. Kirner and Cain were buying things with money that wasn't their own and that they didn't have.
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Kennett having no choice is such a lie
it was a massive wealth transfer to his private sector mates
its not like Labor don't also do that
but we've had decades of public assets sold off to private interests and the states are getting poorer and life is getting worse for everyone
and they keep selling and leasing more stuff off
its a massive rort
it was a massive wealth transfer to his private sector mates
its not like Labor don't also do that
but we've had decades of public assets sold off to private interests and the states are getting poorer and life is getting worse for everyone
and they keep selling and leasing more stuff off
its a massive rort
Even by his standards, this is up there in the overblown hyperbole scale.
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And there were many who did. Teachers, for instance.
Honestly I don't know much about the Cain government. I was talking about Kennett.
"At this time unions and other left-wing organisations coined the term "Jeffed" as a euphemism for words connotating deception and abuse. The term refers to Jeffrey Kennett. It was a very common phrase on placards and other public slogans in rallies at the time."
Badge - I've Been Jeffed, Australian Nurses Federation, Victorian Branch, Victoria, Australia, 1992
Alternative Name(s): Button Badge issued by the Australian Nurses Federation, Victorian Branch, 1992 Upon election of the state Liberal Government on 3rd October 1992, union and other left-wing bodies organised protests, rallies, and fairs, including a "Fair Go Jeff Affair" at the Treasury...
collections.museumsvictoria.com.au
These are facts, yes.
If I do a little Wikipedia reading (this was all 25+ years ago), I see Kirner also introduced the first endangered species protection legislation.
Kennett closed tech schools and sacked 7,000 teachers. Skills shortages ensued. Skilled migration followed.
So, really, if people are having a spit about migration into Victoria in the 10's and beyond (and whatever social, infrastructure, and housing issues they think arose from that)...
Sttew
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You cannot ignore the legacy of Cain and Kirner governments when assessing Kennett.
From 1990:
"THE resignation of John Cain as Premier could well be the final, crowning disaster for Victoria. That's because the State has as serious a financial crisis as any government in Australia's history and, to fix it, it will have to sell assets, lay off employees to cut costs and increase charges.
If Joan Kirner becomes Premier - as seemed certain last night - then for the next two years all those things won't happen, only the last of them. She will resist privatisation and, because of her union links, will not cut costs through staff reductions.
The burden of the State's problems will fall upon increases in business taxes and businesses will leave town. In short, the prognosis for the Garden State would look even worse.
But whoever is Premier next week may have an unpleasant duty: announcing the prospect of between $1.3 billion and $1.9 billion in new losses from the State Bank and the Farrow Group...
Add to those the losses of $795 million already announced by the SBV and -perhaps a little unfairly - John Cain's legacy will be losses of about $2.5 billion from Tricontinental and Farrow. "Unfairly" because he was let down by others whom he trusted, and he has paid the price."
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From 1990:
"THE resignation of John Cain as Premier could well be the final, crowning disaster for Victoria. That's because the State has as serious a financial crisis as any government in Australia's history and, to fix it, it will have to sell assets, lay off employees to cut costs and increase charges.
If Joan Kirner becomes Premier - as seemed certain last night - then for the next two years all those things won't happen, only the last of them. She will resist privatisation and, because of her union links, will not cut costs through staff reductions.
The burden of the State's problems will fall upon increases in business taxes and businesses will leave town. In short, the prognosis for the Garden State would look even worse.
But whoever is Premier next week may have an unpleasant duty: announcing the prospect of between $1.3 billion and $1.9 billion in new losses from the State Bank and the Farrow Group...
Add to those the losses of $795 million already announced by the SBV and -perhaps a little unfairly - John Cain's legacy will be losses of about $2.5 billion from Tricontinental and Farrow. "Unfairly" because he was let down by others whom he trusted, and he has paid the price."
TRUSTING CAIN'S LEGACY IS A TRAIL OF UNEXPLODED BOMBS
THE resignation of John Cain as Premier could well be the final, crowning disaster for Victoria.
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Yes comrades, it’s labor’s fault kennett became premier
And there were many who did. Teachers, for instance.
Honestly I don't know much about the Cain government. I was talking about Kennett.
"At this time unions and other left-wing organisations coined the term "Jeffed" as a euphemism for words connotating deception and abuse. The term refers to Jeffrey Kennett. It was a very common phrase on placards and other public slogans in rallies at the time."
Badge - I've Been Jeffed, Australian Nurses Federation, Victorian Branch, Victoria, Australia, 1992
Alternative Name(s): Button Badge issued by the Australian Nurses Federation, Victorian Branch, 1992 Upon election of the state Liberal Government on 3rd October 1992, union and other left-wing bodies organised protests, rallies, and fairs, including a "Fair Go Jeff Affair" at the Treasury...
These are facts, yes.
If I do a little Wikipedia reading (this was all 25+ years ago), I see Kirner also introduced the first endangered species protection legislation.
Kennett closed tech schools and sacked 7,000 teachers. Skills shortages ensued. Skilled migration followed.
So, really, if people are having a spit about migration into Victoria in the 10's and beyond (and whatever social, infrastructure, and housing issues they think arose from that)...
The Cain Government's spending habits are relevant because it was from this watermark that spending was necessarily cut. For all the current government's profligate spending, the actual balance sheet was much worse in 1992, so much so that advice was a run on superannuation entitlements may have left the state insolvent. Things were much worse then than they are now. The previous government is the context under which the seven years of the Kennett Government must be understood.
