Vic Daniel Andrews and the Statue of Limitations

[_Mike_]

Comm games we should never have gone for in the first place.

Andrews government went in head first without doing adequate due diligence, this embarrassment is on his watch

EWL would have been a white elephant

Based on what data? It has cost the taxpayers approx $630m in damages to cancel it.

Yet the Westgate tunnel is now 3 years late, It was estimated in 2015 to cost $5.5 billion. The figure jumped to $6.7 billion when contracts were signed in 2017 and it has since blown out to $10.1 billion, according to this year’s budget papers.

The West Gate Tunnel is years delayed and $4b over budget. Now its builders are suing

The West Gate Tunnel Project’s builders have blamed the project’s engineers for design errors that led to cost blowouts and a three-year delay.

www.theage.com.au

Budget blowouts on projects aren't new nor are exclusive of Victoria and Victorian Labor.

No, they're not, but they seem to be a regular occurrence with state labor over the last two decades

In May last year the Victorian government signed a $1.7 billion contract for Conduent Business Services to run Victoria’s Myki ticketing system for the next 15 years. The Auditor General ripped through the Labour government's handing of the Myki fiasco budget blow out.

Then, the desal plant, originally budgeted at $2.9B, costing more than $6B and it's still a white elephant.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Then, the desal plant, originally budgeted at $2.9B, costing more than $6B and it's still a white elephant.

At the time there was a rather significant drought going on. The drought ending doesn't make it a white elephant.

It's now an insurance policy. We are prepared for the next drought and let's be frank the next drought is a case of when not if.

Based on what data? It has cost the taxpayers approx $630m in damages to cancel it.

East West Link Project | Victorian Auditor-General's Office

This audit examined whether the state effectively managed the East West Link project and the related costs by assessing the total costs of the project, the appropriateness of the advice supporting key project decisions and the lessons for future major projects.

www.audit.vic.gov.au

The business case was flawed because the liberals were in a rush to get it signed before the election.

The audit found that the EWL business case did not provide a sound basis for the government’s decision to commit to the investment and that key decisions during the project planning, development and procurement phases were driven by an overriding sense of urgency to sign the contract before the November 2014 state election.

Daniel Bowen has a nice summary of the the VAGOs report.

Cancelling East West Link cost $780m, but saved $4b

This is old news, but it keeps coming up, and I never got around to blogging about it in detail, so... The popular narrative of East West Link (from those who wanted it built) is that the Andrews Government paid $1 billion for nothing. As you might expect, there's a little more to it than [...]

danielbowen.com

Binning it saved money. Because building it actually cost more close to 12 billion.

And it would never have fixed traffic congestion.

No, they're not, but they seem to be a regular occurrence with state labor over the last two decades

Cost blowout happen to both sides of government.

Hell the libs were in power in NSW for 11 years in NSW.

Light rail. Cost blow out.
Sydney Metro. Cost blow out.
West Connex. Cost blow out.

All that happened under thier watch. Seemed to be a regular occurrence up there too


The reality major projects have cost blowouts. That video from Practical Engineering explains why it happens well
Until you actually put a shovel in the ground everything you plan for is theory.

 

[_Mike_]

Hell the libs were in power in NSW for 11 years in NSW.

in all due respect I'm not concerned with NSW however I wont ignore the data from NSW as they've had their own issues with Gladis and the crime commission inquiry

As a Victorian Im over getting shafted by the government, regardless of Labor or Liberal, in power time and time again.

 

[Not Important]

The debt and spending numbers contained in the IPA's report are able to be fact-checked as they are not a matter of opinion. So rather than go "teh IPA ?!??!" perhaps debunk the figures - if they are wrong, it should be simple.

Shouldn't the responsibility for clearing the PFAS have been clear in the initial agreements if they all knew it was there? Also, we should expect more of governments - it's not like a collection of people off the street with no alleged expertise in, you know, governing. Easily avoidable mistakes should be easily avoided.

it’s a solid point tp, but when you are accustomed to that propaganda crowd massaging information as many of us have as climate deniers you tend to take it as being par for the course.

 

[The Punter]

it’s a solid point tp, but when you are accustomed to that propaganda crowd massaging information as many of us have as climate deniers you tend to take it as being par for the course.

Fair enough. For those who like to assume around here, I would just like to state for the record I am not a member of the IPA.

 

[Not Important]

Fair enough. For those who like to assume around here, I would just like to state for the record I am not a member of the IPA.

never doubted you for a minute, t.p . you're way to moderate and reasonable to associate with toxic lot.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

 

[Xtreme]

I am shocked to read that there was a cover up for/by Dastardly Dan Andrews

Justice is coming like a runaway freight train.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Murdoch continually going down this path.
Perhaps the most relevant bit of the Exclusive Bombshell article is this

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

Murdoch continually going down this path.
Perhaps the most relevant bit of the Exclusive Bombshell article is this

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according to the family, neither one of dan Andrews or his wife were breath tested.

and possibly dan was the one who was driving and he switched seats

 

[TheEscapeClub]

The report was filed under his wife's maiden name so it would be difficult to find.

I ****ing hate hate public office corruption, they need to get this slimy **** and hang all the bent coppers involved.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

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So the acronym for his job title is FATC ?

 

[adogsfan5]

I am shocked to read that there was a cover up for/by Dastardly Dan Andrews

Justice is coming like a runaway freight train.

Thread to be derailed in 3…2…1..

 

[peetoo]

Thread to be derailed in 3…2…1..

I wonder what PETA will hve to say, having a fantastic driving record herself

 

[adogsfan5]

I wonder what PETA will hve to say, having a fantastic driving record herself

Whataboutism.. a fantastic start to the thread derailment. Keep em coming!

 

[peetoo]

Whataboutism.. a fantastic start to the thread derailment. Keep em coming!

Got it in one

 

[Sttew]

I wonder what PETA will hve to say, having a fantastic driving record herself

At least she faced the music.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

I wonder what PETA will hve to say, having a fantastic driving record herself

What have People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) got to do with this?

 

[Satan]

What have People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) got to do with this?

The ex stripper?

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

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The report was commission by the kid's lawyers for what it's worth.

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Such interesting timing. Surely there's no other news that they might be trying to distract from at the moment.

 

[Satan]

Such interesting timing. Surely there's no other news that they might be trying to distract from at the moment.

Yep Trumps latest Assassination attempt at him

 

[Hornberger]

The report was commission by the kid's lawyers for what it's worth.

You can find an "expert" (for the right price) that will say anything you want. That the report was submitted as evidence tells you nothing about its veracity.

 

[Sttew]

The report was commission by the kid's lawyers for what it's worth.

What's your point? If anything in the report is untrue you'd think there would be grounds for a defamation case.

 

[Satan]

What's your point? If anything in the report is untrue you'd think there would be grounds for a defamation case.

As the author has passed good luck suing him.