Player Watch Darcy Fogarty - Re-Signed to End of 2031

[UcantCme]

Can someone tell me why this guy never plays? Highly rated during the draft year & a beautiful kick of the footy

Great talent however a little one dimensional and needs to find the ball a little more

Now he is a little fitter the sanfl team is playing him a bit further up the ground and in the centre square so hopefully this adds a few more strings to his bow and as a result he will get more AFL selection opportunities

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[Donkey Magoo]

Can someone tell me why this guy never plays? Highly rated during the draft year & a beautiful kick of the footy

NFI

 

[Southerntakeover]

Can someone tell me why this guy never plays? Highly rated during the draft year & a beautiful kick of the footy

We're in a rebuild and he offers none of the upside of a Tom Lynch or David Mackay.

 

[NTRabbit]

Can someone tell me why this guy never plays? Highly rated during the draft year & a beautiful kick of the footy

He's a tweener who lacks the height and enough compensatory aerial prowess to be a KPF, but his body is too big and lacking in speed, agility, and endurance to play as an X factor medium forward, forward link man, or an oversized inside midfielder.

The first isn't fixable, the second is potentially fixable but hasn't been fixed yet.

 

[VKCrow]

We're in a rebuild and he offers none of the upside of a Tom Lynch or David Mackay.

 

[StonesThrow]

You have to remember that the bloke has played 24 games, with his first 3 seasons being 2018, 2019 and 2020. The worst decline in AFC history where he was played as a key forward with the most atrocious forward deliveries I've witnessed.

In one season when he was sent back to the reserves, he was trialled as a defender.

That's hardly a start that's conducive to a burgeoning career.

 

[conVINCEd]

Seems we want to turn him into a Stringer type forward-mid hybrid.

Which could be great but he needs to be surrounded by forward pressure when he’s ahead of the ball, so the Murphy/McHenry/McAdam heat has to be there.

Right now he either needs to replace Lynch (the best option for me) or Frampton (raising the question mark over a back up ruck, and Himmelberg or Thilthorpe should get a go).

 

[Geoffa32]

Seems we want to turn him into a Stringer type forward-mid hybrid.

Which could be great but he needs to be surrounded by forward pressure when he’s ahead of the ball, so the Murphy/McHenry/McAdam heat has to be there.

Right now he either needs to replace Lynch (the best option for me) or Frampton (raising the question mark over a back up ruck, and Himmelberg or Thilthorpe should get a go).

Yep Lynch

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[thebirdman 24]

We would never do it but yep Lynch should be the one to make way.

Yep Lynch

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[Southerntakeover]

You have to remember that the bloke has played 24 games, with his first 3 seasons being 2018, 2019 and 2020. The worst decline in AFC history where he was played as a key forward with the most atrocious forward deliveries I've witnessed.

In one season when he was sent back to the reserves, he was trialled as a defender.

That's hardly a start that's conducive to a burgeoning career.

Which, considering that he made an impact in those few games, makes the idea that we've just sat him in the twos with little chance to build consistency or an understanding of how the ball moves at AFL level (which have been his biggest issues) makes our treatment of him all the more crazy.

 

[Golumless]

Seems we want to turn him into a Stringer type forward-mid hybrid.

Which could be great but he needs to be surrounded by forward pressure when he’s ahead of the ball, so the Murphy/McHenry/McAdam heat has to be there.

Right now he either needs to replace Lynch (the best option for me) or Frampton (raising the question mark over a back up ruck, and Himmelberg or Thilthorpe should get a go).

Just quietly, Fogarty has never been shy of tackling/applying pressure.

He'll need to be surrounded by pressure, but he's no slouch by tall forwards low standards.

 

[NTRabbit]

Yep Lynch

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Fogarty needs to do what I need to do, which is drop some weight and get fitter, before he can take that that kind of role in the side.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Fogarty needs to do what I need to do, which is drop some weight and get fitter, before he can take that that kind of role in the side.

He should never play until he's the perfect player.

 

[Southerntakeover]

The good thing is that the players who Fog competes with for a spot are all perfect products, the combination of perfect height and aerobic capacity, contested marking beasts who dominate each week.

If only he could match their standard.

 

[NTRabbit]

He should never play until he's the perfect player.

Doesn't have to be perfect, does have to be able to run all game and find the ball without being gassed at 3/4 time.

Unless you want to use the new injury sub to Arjuna Ranatunga him every week, he needs to drop weight and improve his fitness.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Doesn't have to be perfect, does have to be able to run all game and find the ball without being gassed at 3/4 time.

Unless you want to use the new injury sub to Arjuna Ranatunga him every week, he needs to drop weight and improve his fitness.

How do you suggest he demonstrate his preparedness to overcome things that have only happened in your head?

 

[NTRabbit]

How do you suggest he demonstrate his preparedness to overcome things that have only happened in your head?

They've actually happened in real life in the AFL side, and the best way to demonstrate his preparedness is to run a half marathon on the HFF in the SANFL a few games in a row.

 

[MrBarry]

Bottom line is we should be finding a spot in the side for him. We are in the middle of a rebuild ffs.

 

[Southerntakeover]

They've actually happened in real life in the AFL side, and the best way to demonstrate his preparedness is to run a half marathon on the HFF in the SANFL a few games in a row.

What is your evidence that this has happened other than assertion?

Why does Fogarty have to pass tests that no one else is required to?

 

[Southerntakeover]

Bottom line is we should be finding a spot in the side for him. We are in the middle of a rebuild ffs.

Of course we should, because we need to know whether he's going to be a part of our future or not. That should be done by giving him blocks of games, and assessing the results. If we've formed the view he's a bust, why do we retain him? If we havent, why do we harm him?

Our handling of him makes no sense on any level.

We spend all pre-season releasing hype stories and photos of the shape he's gotten himself into, only to pretend that we think that he's unfit when the real stuff starts because we can't be bothered making a spot for him.

Meanwhile, Fogarty alone apparently bears responsibility for our malfunctioning forward line when he was played last year. I mean, we had non-existent ball movement, the worst coaching known to football and non existent structures to the point where Walker looked like a completely finished player- this is acknowledged for every other player who struggled last year: they all got backed in again (including Lynch who's been cooked for three years), but not for Fogarty. For Fog this is the evidence for the fans who are desperate to defend club mistakes no matter how egregious that he was never really any good anyway. We just ignore that he was clearly our most dangerous forward when we gave him a run of games at the end of 2019, and that he clearly has AFL level talent.

We've been utterly negligent in our approach to a first round draft pick. That should anger people.

 

[jackster83]

Bottom line is we should be finding a spot in the side for him. We are in the middle of a rebuild ffs.

Considering Tex was only 27 at the time, it's looking like a poor decision to use an early draft pick on a player who we had/have absolutely no spot for in the foreseeable future.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Considering Tex was only 27 at the time, it's looking like a poor decision to use an early draft pick on a player who we had/have absolutely no spot for in the foreseeable future.

Whilst simultaneously retaining Lynch and prioritising Jenkins? Yes.

The Eagles, for example, have found a way to put nearly twice the games into Oscar Allen despite having better key forwards than our cohort in Kennedy and Darling.

 

[jackster83]

Whilst simultaneously retaining Lynch and prioritising Jenkins? Yes.

The Eagles, for example, have found a way to put nearly twice the games into Oscar Allen despite having better key forwards than our cohort in Kennedy and Darling.

Even worse is we already are showing signs of making exactly the same mistake with Thilthorpe. We're happy to leave our top two pick in the reserves while we doddle around trying to see if Frampton and Himmelberg might one day become serviceable.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Bottom line is we should be finding a spot in the side for him. We are in the middle of a rebuild ffs.

He's been given a tonne of chances to prove himself and has not done so. He needs to do what every other player out of form does and go back to SANFL and dominate, which he has also not done.

Fogarty tends to get more free passes on this board more than any because he's a player that has qualities of a full forward of the 70's/80's. He is not fit for the modern game.

 

[Southerntakeover]

He's been given a tonne of chances to prove himself and has not done so. He needs to do what every other player out of form does and go back to SANFL and dominate, which he has also not done.

Fogarty tends to get more free passes on this board more than any because he's a player that has qualities of a full forward of the 70's/80's. He is not fit for the modern game.

Derp life.

He's done plenty in his AFL opportunities for a player of his age, experience, and position played. The idea that he's been given far too many opportunities and simply failed is a nonsense.

Darcy Fogarty and Oscar Allen AFL Stats Comparison

Darcy Fogarty and Oscar Allen AFL Stats Comparison.

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Check out how he tracked against Oscar Allen in 2019. The problem is, you can't make a comparison fairly because we only begrudgingly gave Fogarty 4 games at the end of the year and Allen played 21.

It's almost like the Eagles recognise the importance of putting games into their high talent youth.