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Does Taylor Adams become the Pies second best midfielder ?
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Dayne beams officially requests trade
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Nah, we already have Martin, then we'll just take Paddy Ryder, 2 elite rucks is good enough
Beams if he lands at Brisbane immediately sits alongside Rockliff as the clubs best player.
Easiest way for a Brisbane fan to work out a realistic trade is to figure out what would be acceptable to compensate Rockliff leaving.
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*3rd best
I already assumed that (as they moved down and he stayed). Was more that if he was sick, his daughter may not have moved. Just postulating on the timing though.
Jesus I'm not saying beams is shite, I would still take him and on the drafts and trading board I equated his value to a number one draft pick. The players I mentioned after I don't believe to be better, but as you said they could be argued to a degree. I think the players in my main list are better, Johnson is a quality player who has played ultra football for many years now, Wingard is 21 and could be anything. Beams is a jet but don't kid yourself he is on Pendles / Selwood level, maybe another couple seasons like 2012 then yeah
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But presently is not better than Beams. I know he's not Pendlebury/Selwood level at this stage But they are top 5 in the comp. What is ultra football? (genuine question)
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Tracking better at the same age though.
As in Johnson has played at an ultra consistent high level level since 2007 rarely putting in bad seasons, similar to like Dane Swan over that period with this year being his only below par one.
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Easiest way for a Brisbane fan to work out a realistic trade is to figure out what would be acceptable to compensate Rockliff leaving.[/QUOTE]
Not really, Rockliff doesn't want out of Brisbane and is not forcing a trade. Also Rockliff gets on well with his coach.
Not really, Rockliff doesn't want out of Brisbane and is not forcing a trade. Also Rockliff gets on well with his coach.
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Beams hasn't put in bad season either...
So half that list is there because they have the potential to be better than Beams... but Beams own potential isn't acknowledged when compared to 30 year olds....
Remember blues fans on here when Rockliffe hadn't resigned that he was worth like Pick 9 or 12 or whatever it was at the time. That was before last year i think then he got 20 brownlow votes last year? So on carltons logic pick 12 cool?
Last year the demons offered pick 2 for Rockliff... but he wasnt on the trade table nor requested to leave...ie Rockliff aint going no where. Lions can offer pick 4 so arent far off, plus most if not all lions fans recognise that it will take a little extra to get over the line. That little extra wont be one of the Lions best young kids though. Trade seems reasonablly straight forward to me...the lions dont have to go shopping around for a top pick as they already have one
Not really, Rockliff doesn't want out of Brisbane and is not forcing a trade. Also Rockliff gets on well with his coach.[/QUOTE]
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The reason for leaving doesn't factor in. WCE didn't accept nothing because Judd wanted to go home, neither did Port when Burgoyne left...they are the two big player trades that occurred recently.
To help a Brisbane fan work out an equitable trade, it is what they would accept as compensation if Rockliff left (ie Brisbane's best comparison to Beams).
Good for Brisbane if he goes there and will show that there's no need for them to receive any special assistance.
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Pick 4 and Ryan Lester would do in that case
Another club's view of what would have got it done doesn't matter...Brisbane wouldn't take pick 12 and a Brissy fan would rightly laugh it off.Remember blues fans on here when Rockliffe hadn't resigned that he was worth like Pick 9 or 12 or whatever it was at the time. That was before last year i think then he got 20 brownlow votes last year? So on carltons logic pick 12 cool?
Two top 10 picks (or equivalent) would be required....Pies traded Tarrant when he was 27 for pick 8 and Medhurst for fecks sake.
Beams value is more than that of guys like Burgoyne and Tarrant...the Lions (G.Swann anyway) will be acutely aware of this.
Yep... at least the Pies would get a top pick off the Lions. Look at the rubbish picks the lions got from our go home 5 (thank god we drafted well). Teams losing the player rarely win out of this... Pies will at least get something real good in return
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Except the go home 5 had proved nothing and most hadn't done anything at AFL level and they weren't contracted either.
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Lol so we have figured out in the last 24 hours that Lion supporters do not want Lester, Crisp and Leunberger
We are happy to throw in the Beams trade Yagmoor and Clarke
We are happy to throw in the Beams trade Yagmoor and Clarke
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We have also found out that Beams does not want Collingwood
you get less when a player is desperate to leave, simple. We have been bent over a barrel for years at the trade table. Now it's payback time.
We have found out that Brisbane play both sides of the fence.
Smash the "go home 5" because they want to go home but happily welcome a player who wants to go home.
Smash the "go home 5" because they want to go home but happily welcome a player who wants to go home.
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