Opinion Dees V Dogs - Sunday MCG 1.00 PM

[_Cerberus_]

The Demons forward line on paper is small from the looks of it. I'm okay with not going that tall when we have been burnt hard by their non talls in the past. Though I do think JOD should have been named in case one of Jones or Buku go down injured or struggle form wise.

 

[lachy]

I find it difficult to get too excited about a small backline.

Frim my perspective, Bev has historically fallen back on a smaller backline quite commonly. This is not a major shift in philosophy. Rather, it's a move away from a shift in philosophy that we employed because we were getting consistently slaughtered by key forwards.

Personally, I was most excited to see a backline comprising two genuine talls surrounded by much more mobility and aerial prowess than we've had in the past. I feel for the first time in years we have the cattle to do that, and am disappointed not to see it.

Of course, different structure, different personnel, so on and so forth. I'll give it a chance and see how it plays out. But I'm simply not convinced that going small is some massive moving of the magnets.

If the opposition has 2 decent talls, yes, but their best forward is Fritch. Both Buku and Coffield can defend him.

JOD is the only tall missing that has good skills to match height.

Playing talls.for the sake of it without skills killed our ball movement last year. We missed finals. Though new and will take a few weeks to gel, this is a significantly better backline defensively and astronomically better offensively.

One thing is our team is actually good this week. I think we forget the team we are playing has already played a game and did finish in the top 4 in the last 2 seasons with their smalls forward doing the damage

On SM-S926B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Foxman98]

So we should have delisted him after his back half of 2021? He was good at CHB and in the forward role he filled during finals. Would have been a strange call to delist him then.

I must’ve missed that when was this?

 

[Foxman98]

If the opposition has 2 decent talls, yes, but their best forward is Fritch. Both Buku and Coffield can defend him.

JOD is the only tall missing that has good skills to match height.

Playing talls.for the sake of it without skills killed our ball movement last year. We missed finals. Though new and will take a few weeks to gel, this is a significantly better backline defensively and astronomically better offensively.

One thing is our team is actually good this week. I think we forget the team we are playing has already played a game and did finish in the top 4 in the last 2 seasons with their smalls forward doing the damage

On SM-S926B using BigFooty.com mobile app

You’re so condescending and bring down threads stop posting!


Edit this is a joke we are close

 

[Golden_6]

The Demons forward line on paper is small from the looks of it. I'm okay with not going that tall when we have been burnt hard by their non talls in the past. Though I do think JOD should have been named in case one of Jones or Buku go down injured or struggle form wise.

Brown & McDonald are both named on the bench.

That said, Brown is cooked and is horrificly underdone. There’s also talk that McDonald will be played in defence on the Demons board which would make sense with Tomlinson dropped.

 

[weltschmerz]

Brown & McDonald are both named on the bench.

That said, Brown is cooked and is horrificly underdone. There’s also talk that McDonald will be played in defence on the Demons board which would make sense with Tomlinson dropped.

And McDonald will be required down back.

 

[Mofra]

Brown & McDonald are both named on the bench.

That said, Brown is cooked and is horrificly underdone. There’s also talk that McDonald will be played in defence on the Demons board which would make sense with Tomlinson dropped.

Hore has been named and is a very good interceptor. Not sure he's a good match up for Naughts/Marra.

 

[Doggy]

Brown & McDonald are both named on the bench.

That said, Brown is cooked and is horrificly underdone. There’s also talk that McDonald will be played in defence on the Demons board which would make sense with Tomlinson dropped.

Hore is also playing

 

[doggies ftw]

Personally, I was most excited to see a backline comprising two genuine talls surrounded by much more mobility and aerial prowess than we've had in the past. I feel for the first time in years we have the cattle to do that, and am disappointed not to see it.

yeah agree with that, feels like a wasted opportunity considering the cattle we have available. We’ll be stretched when aerially it could have been a strength with one simple swap

Anyway it could pay off big time and I don’t think it’s an every week thing, just this week so let’s see how it goes - I still think either way on paper there’s no excuses for not having them covered this week. How it plays out though who knows

 

[TiAn_]

I must’ve missed that when was this?

Yeah I figured that

 

[hatescaptcha]

Vandermeer most likely sub you’d suspect.


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

 

[bullish23]

Vandermeer most likely sub you’d suspect.


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

Tight game 40 mins to go and we bring VDM on as a sub while Jack Macrae sits in the stands. Wow….

 

[hutchy31]

Did you see how bad VDM was in rounds 21 and 22 last year?

Seems he keeps putting in shockers yet never dropped.

I know you shouldn’t hang someone for one bad game, but anyone who was at the ground and saw VDM’s performance against WC should know he should never play at this level (at least for the dogs) again. It was the culmination of a number of poor performances, and he looked way, way below the level required.

Any positives around the selections will be tempered if he’s in the selected team. It’s madness.

 

[go the dogs]

Yep taking the piss. Jack macrae not in best 26. VDM in best 23. Even Jack as sub would of been better option

 

[adogsfan5]

I would rather Baker in and made him sub. VDM isn’t up to this level.

 

[Dog 36]

I know you shouldn’t hang someone for one bad game, but anyone who was at the ground and saw VDM’s performance against WC should know he should never play at this level (at least for the dogs) again. It was the culmination of a number of poor performances, and he looked way, way below the level required.

Any positives around the selections will be tempered if he’s in the selected team. It’s madness.

Bad game to choose as VDM had many many mates that game.

One of the weirdest games I have ever been to.

 

[dogwatch]

I'm no VDM fan and I wouldn't have picked him if I was sole selector but everyone seems to be forgetting that we have had serious problems with the balance of the team. As someone said this week we shouldn't be trying to fit the best 22 players in. We should be trying to put the best team of 22 on the park. Macrae is undoubtedly the better player when fully fit but he is underdone (we're told) and unless he's in top form his inclusion creates a problem of balance.

The regular complaints last year were:
-That our much vaunted midfield was too slow.
-That our transition from defence was too slow and indirect.
-That the pace of the game had increased and left us behind - look at Richmond, Collingwood, Sydney, blah, blah, blah
-That we weren't applying enough pressure.

Now I know Vandermeer can't fix all these things on his own but it appears that for all his fumbling he remains in favour because he runs like the wind, goes hard in a straight line and he applies lots of pressure. That's the same pressure and busy-ness trait that got Arty a lot of games, even when he wasn't racking up (m)any disposals. I've also heard reports here that VDM wasn't too bad in the practice games.

I've refrained from joining the Vandermeer pile-on so far because I want to see how he's used (if he's not the sub) and whether it works or not. More broadly have the new coaches helped Bevo come up with a better way to put this team together? And how does VDM fit into that game plan?

I know it's a novel idea but I thought I'd give them one game to show us what they can do.

But if it's more of the same then of course I'll just join in with the usual post match VDM whipping.

Until then ... Go Vanders!!

 

[Martyn_30_]

If Darcy’s manager isn’t on the phone to other clubs this week he isn’t doing his job.


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I know you shouldn’t hang someone for one bad game, but anyone who was at the ground and saw VDM’s performance against WC should know he should never play at this level (at least for the dogs) again. It was the culmination of a number of poor performances, and he looked way, way below the level required.

Any positives around the selections will be tempered if he’s in the selected team. It’s madness.

I thought the same thing when Vandermeer handballed it straight to the opposition twice, under no pressure, running into open goals in the '22 Prelim!

 

[Bulldog Brent]

Don’t forget his winning behind in the ‘21 semi.

 

[dogwatch]

Don’t forget his winning behind in the ‘21 semi.

Callipygian likes this post.

 

[doggiesin08]

And McDonald will be required down back.

Playing McDonald on Lobb is a mistake for them. They'd be better off playing and extra runner and putting Hore on him particularly given Gawn always drops back into the hole anyway.

 

[cherrypie]

This must be the quickest side we’ve fielded in at least a decade. Real mix of speed and height

 

[doggiesin08]

This must be the quickest side we’ve fielded in at least a decade. Real mix of speed and height

Quickest side since we rolled out Shannon Rusca in the 2002 pre-season.

 

[Libba39]

If Darcy’s manager isn’t on the phone to other clubs this week he isn’t doing his job.


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

He was NEVER going to play so time to drop the outrage. He is still a year or two away from performing at afl level.

On SM-A505YN using BigFooty.com mobile app