Opinion Dees V Dogs - Sunday MCG 1.00 PM

[VogonProsthetnic]

We’d still be an extremely mobile defensive group with JoD over Bramble and we’d likely be more skilled

JoD easily our second best tall defender last year.

What has changed?

 

[weltschmerz]

The only thing with their talls is that Ben Brown is not a contested / pack marking tall, he's a run and lead all day type so a good match up for a Coffield or maybe Bailey Williams if he is down back.

JVR is only 193 cms and still only 20, so a guy like Buku should theoretically be fine to wrestle with him and not get monstered.

Mcdonald is a genuine strong tall, but on current form Jones should be able to handle and get on top of.

Now the issue of course is if Jones went down at all, but yeah fingers crossed that doesn't happen.

Looking at their back line, May would go on Naughton and Lever on JUH, but Hore's not really a man on man defender. They might need to put McDonald back to handle Lobb.

 

[doggies ftw]

The fundamental shifts in preferred structure is so wildly different year to year, from a strict 3 tall policy last year to just the one this year. Let’s hope the darts we’ve thrown this year land successfully

 

[TiAn_]

Looking at their back line, May would go on Naughton and Lever on JUH, but Hore's not really a man on man defender. They might need to put McDonald back to handle Lobb.

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McDonald is in for Tomlinson, I suspect he goes to Lobb.

 

[doggies ftw]

Yeah I’m not overly happy with VDM, he better be sub. Honestly the only way we don’t play this bloke is if he’s injured… he’s genuinely so bad. Shouldn’t be the difference though.

I really would feel a lot more comfortable with JOD even before considering those changes for Melb. It’s really restricting with match ups meaning Richards probably has to go to Fritsch? Obviously they rotate but Buku, Jones & Coffield will have to play on 3 pretty big talls. I’d much prefer to free up the likes of Coffield, Buku & Richards to intercept. It’s a different restriction to what the super tall backline forced on us last season, but it still leaves us very restricted IMO.

Would be such a simple change JOD for Bramble and Bramble sub which would make the team look a hell of a lot more balanced IMO

 

[weltschmerz]

Yeah I’m not overly happy with VDM, he better be sub. Honestly the only way we don’t play this bloke is if he’s injured… he’s genuinely so bad. Shouldn’t be the difference though.

I really would feel a lot more comfortable with JOD even before considering those changes for Melb. It’s really restricting with match ups meaning Richards probably has to go to Fritsch? Obviously they rotate but Buku, Jones & Coffield will have to play on 3 pretty big talls. I’d much prefer to free up the likes of Coffield, Buku & Richards to intercept. It’s a different restriction to what the super tall backline forced on us last season, but it still leaves us very restricted IMO.

Would be such a simple change JOD for Bramble and Bramble sub which would make the team look a hell of a lot more balanced IMO

I suspect Bramble goes to Pickett in Duryea's standard role.

 

[ScragCity]

So glad for Rhylee West

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Rhylee West

Age

24

Ht

183cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.5

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

5.6

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.6

3star

to be a first choice small forward. I love watching him play.

 

[Doggies7]

Looking at their back line, May would go on Naughton and Lever on JUH, but Hore's not really a man on man defender. They might need to put McDonald back to handle Lobb.

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Yeah that's true I didn't think about that... I think would be a win for us tbh, would lose a fair bit of run and carry out of the backline and we would be more dangerous when the ball hit the ground.

 

[weltschmerz]

Our back line could be Bramble on Pickett (sounds like a lovely description of a fence in a village), Richards on Fritsch, Jones on Brown, Buku on JVR, Coffield and Dale doing their thing. Up forward, Lobb is manned by McDonald, Naughton by May, and JUH by Lever.

 

[weltschmerz]

Problem is he runs fast then just fumbles or turns it over.

Yeah, if I was picking this sub for this 22 it'd probably be Scott. I don't love it, I just reckon it's specifically because he's got wheels.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Reports are that Vandermeer's big positive is that he covers lots of ground quickly and shuts down options. Not a game that would translate well to seeing on TV or getting stats, but it maybe be more important than we realise.

 

[SackofTaters]

My main concern with VDM is when he get's the pill in an offensive scenario.

He is a liability with the ball, his game sense is virtually non existent. I'd never doubt his effort, you can see he tries his guts out, but he just does not have it above the shoulders IMHO.

 

[Sharkey66]

I suspect JOD is still not quite ready fitness wise, and is just in the emergencies for cover in case one of the Talls get injured pre game.

 

[Doggies7]

Obvious statement but quelling Max is going to be so important. Was apparently sick against Sydney last week and is going to be primed to bounce back against us. Tim and Rory are going to have their hands full, little bit nervous the impact he might have Sunday.

 

[Generation West]

I like the team.

Selection integrity on full display. No obvious outs apart from Macrae and JOD, who are underdone. Both should be pushing for selection next week, along with Darcy.

I don’t get the VDM negativity. His role is primarily defensive when we don’t have the ball and to apply pressure on the opposition and get into inconvenient places to force the opposition into delivering the ball where they don’t want to.

Yeah, he is not the cleanest with ball in hand, but he is in for his speed and pressure.

 

[TiAn_]

As much as I think O’Donnell would be better, I’m fine with Khamis or Coffield playing on van Rooyen or Brown.

Obvious statement but quelling Max is going to be so important. Was apparently sick against Sydney last week and is going to be primed to bounce back against us. Tim and Rory are going to have their hands full, little bit nervous the impact he might have Sunday.

Hopefully confident English turns up and not the English we saw in Rd 24. But at least we can spell him with Lobb if he’s getting beaten.

 

[Dazb86]

I like the team.

Selection integrity on full display. No obvious outs apart from Macrae and JOD, who are underdone. Both should be pushing for selection next week, along with Darcy.

I don’t get the VDM negativity. His role is primarily defensive when we don’t have the ball and to apply pressure on the opposition and get into inconvenient places to force the opposition into delivering the ball where they don’t want to.

Yeah, he is not the cleanest with ball in hand, but he is in for his speed and pressure.

Hmmmmm he just ruins things for us offensively so often. Maybe it's just really noticeable because when he does it we are generally 'out' and should be scoring.

 

[Bald]

My memory was that Vandermeer looked a lot better off half back last year. I wonder where he's actually going to be playing his footy this year.

 

[CarnTheScray]

JoD easily our second best tall defender last year.

What has changed?

Underdone. Will be in immediately when ready

 

[ossie_21]

We are genuinely playing VDM over Jack Macrae.

 

[doggies ftw]

I suspect Bramble goes to Pickett in Duryea's standard role.

He sort of has to now with Richards to Fritsch and Coff/Buku/Jones to the talls, don’t really see that role suiting him tbh but would be awesome if he makes it work. I’d feel more comfortable across the board with Richards to Pickett, Coff to Fritsch and Jones, Buku, Jod to the talls

 

[Libbaaaa]

Sportsbet paying out on Vanders to give away a 50m penalty or get hamstring awareness. Fine team apart from that shocker.

 

[doggies ftw]

Sportsbet paying out on Vanders to give away a 50m penalty or get hamstring awareness. Fine team apart from that shocker.

Yeah not sure there’s enough upside at all there for the very real risk we finish the game a man down. Hopefully it’s before we use the sub not after

 

[SackofTaters]

Any chance VDM could get some Game Awareness ? ( I'll let myself out ... )

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

I find it difficult to get too excited about a small backline.

Frim my perspective, Bev has historically fallen back on a smaller backline quite commonly. This is not a major shift in philosophy. Rather, it's a move away from a shift in philosophy that we employed because we were getting consistently slaughtered by key forwards.

Personally, I was most excited to see a backline comprising two genuine talls surrounded by much more mobility and aerial prowess than we've had in the past. I feel for the first time in years we have the cattle to do that, and am disappointed not to see it.

Of course, different structure, different personnel, so on and so forth. I'll give it a chance and see how it plays out. But I'm simply not convinced that going small is some massive moving of the magnets.