I am glad you brought up the Carlisle incident. When Murphy had a go verbally at Carlisle who was injured on the ground he was called a dog by Saints supporters. A weak low act apparently. Now Carlisle has pushed an injured player who was on the ground and they have the audacity to defend him. What a pack of hypocrites.
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You seem to be struggling with the difference between a free kick and a reportable offence.
An act which deserves a free kick against does not equate to an act that is reportable. One does not justify the other.
Umpires are there for a reason, to stop players from metering out there own solution to an issue.
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JeffDunne
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More a poke than a 'gouge'. http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-07-03/watch-webster-eye-gouge-incident
Notice how Suban goes to ground like he's been whacked?
Who does that if someone is going for an eye "gouge"? A diver, that's who.
I think you meant "win".
Who is acting the victims? Can't recall any of our players taking a dive.
Jesus Christ could you be any more of a campaigner?
JeffDunne
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Carlisle didn't run 30m to have a go at a player on the ground.
He didn't run to the media squealing about "nasty" things said to him either.
Murphy is just another squib who can give it but can't take it.
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Did he? How do you know when it started? Perhaps Mills was responding to Bugg whacking him before we saw the camera shot? Perhaps he took 30 shots from Bugg before he did anything? Perhaps he started it, and poor little Bugg just couldn't take anymore.
But the bottom line is, one player escalated the normal niggle into a punch in the head. That player took things way, way over the line of "reasonable response".
Playing the "he hit me first" game is for little children.
You should be absolutely sure you're right before spouting this kind of thing. My understanding of Australian law is that there is no formulaic basis to a self-defence claim.
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He still hit him, whether he ran 30m or not
Maybe do what Barry Hall did to Scott Thompson. Choke the dribbler until he turns purple and cop a fine (which Hall's teammates paid).
JeffDunne
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No, running 30 metres to verbally abuse someone who had been saying disgusting things about his wife is so much worse than pushing an injured player who is on the ground. It wasn't Murpny who ran squealing to the media. Murphy cops wacks every week and has done so since he first started playing. But, yes you are right, he can't take it.
So, you are okay with Carlisle pushing an injured player are you? Then again, it is not the first time a St Kilda player has done this.
JeffDunne
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He wasn't injured.
He's a serial diver so I assume Jake thought he was just doing the usual.
Once he realised he'd been paid the free he got up straight away to take his kick. Some injury.
But hey, let's not allow facts to get in the way of yet another Carlton whinge about their sook of a captain.
What on earth are you whining about now?
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The usual pseudo tough guy keyboard warriors on this thread thinking that going the biff is somehow still 'part of our game' and to be admired. Yes it's a contact sport but it should be reasonable to expect to play it without getting eye gouged or punched in the face. If a player is going the niggle then you respond through legal means by hammering them back in a tackle or just straight up beating your man in general play. The league and the players have a duty of care for each other and going outside the rules and thumping someone is straight up indefensible, no excuses.
Bravery in the AFL is crashing a pack or going back with the flight of the ball, not cheap shot punches.
Bravery in the AFL is crashing a pack or going back with the flight of the ball, not cheap shot punches.
How can you assume you know what Carlisle was thinking? Lets not allow facts to get in the way of yet another Saints hypocrite.He wasn't injured.
He's a serial diver so I assume Jake thought he was just doing the usual.
Once he realised he'd been paid the free he got up straight away to take his kick. Some injury.
But hey, let's not allow facts to get in the way of yet another Carlton whinge about their sook of a captain.
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Just out of curiosity, what did he say?
I keep hearing things like it was 'disgusting', but no one has given any clue whatsoever as to what was said, and whom said it.
The closest is that it was in regards to the Carey rumour. Do you know what was said and whom said it?
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Does it have to happen for you to take action on it? The potential for serious injury or death is well documented. You're well out of touch with reality.
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Let's look at this intelligently.
I don't think anyone's supporting punches to the head,it's clearly not on. But let's address both issues,we should be intelligent enough to do so. The cheating and scragging is far more common than the retaliation of it. This needs to be stamped out also. It's not something that's in your face as much as head punches and such,but while the issue is alive let's look at this blight on the game by the cheaters.
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So you think the AFL are correct to encourage cheating and unsportsmanlike behaviour?
Not sure what the rest of your post is about to be honest.
JeffDunne
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Amazingly (yeah right) two Sydney players are cleared after bumping players in the head when they had their head over the ball.
Both those incidents were far more likely to cause serious injury than the two St Kilda reports from yesterday's game (a thumb to the eye and a stomach punch). No surprises that the two "victims" were two protagonists that both took dives after each incident.
And you have the nerve to use AFL corporate speak like "duty of care". The MRP this week showed none.
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The worst injuries I'm aware of are lost kidneys and spinal injuries as a result of fair contact.
And mental illness which is often triggered by pressure and bullying in some instances.
Back to my question: who has ever been killed in an AFL game by a punch to the head? You said they had, but I don't recall those instances.
No one knows exactly what was said, Caro said it was vile so she must have known what was said. From all reports Carlisle was the main instigator and it was about Murphy's wife. Any way my point was that Saints supporters absolutely gave it to Murphy for a verbal attack yet they think pushing an injured player is okay.
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Maybe you should read it properly before replying to it then.
I don't agree with any of your premise that the AFL are supporting unsportsmanlike behaviour by sanctioning players who punch people. There is zero logic in what you've said. I don't think there was provocation and nothing can justify assaulting another player. Is that clear enough?
