Play Nice Derailed, (The Place to Continue Off-Topic Discussion)

[manicpie]

Excuse me, is this the tobacco wars thread? It was an interesting conversation

 

[Doc1763]

Excuse me, is this the tobacco wars thread? It was an interesting conversation

Yes

 

[manicpie]

Yes

Firstly, is there any bikies in this group because I don't want to upset anyone and I value my simple existence

 

[leon123]

Excuse me, is this the tobacco wars thread? It was an interesting conversation

Anyhow, have a winfield

 

[Doc1763]

Firstly, is there any bikies in this group because I don't want to upset anyone and I value my simple existence

It'll be fine, BF is encrypted, you're perfectly safe.........

 

[South of the Yarra]

Personally I don't find jokes about Welcome to Country overly amusing .

 

[Stronzatello]

Personally I don't find jokes about Welcome to Country overly amusing .

Grow up!!

 

[South of the Yarra]

Grow up!!

When it comes to Aboriginal cultural awareness there are so many wonderful people who are willing to listen, to learn and respect. Even if they disagree they always respect. Unfortunately, there is always one like yourself.

 

[ant22]

But should not Be shoved down our Throats as well

It’s a one minute cultural ceremony that is not in any way offensive. I’m sure you can tune out for that small amount of time it doesn’t interest you.

Compare that to what indigenous people had to put up with for a couple of hundred years after British settlement and it’s kind of laughable that some of us white Anglo Aussies are so outraged by it.

But should not Be shoved down our Throats as well

 

[WakeUpPies]

If you genuinely can’t stand the Welcome to Country you can always go back to Europe or Africa or Asia or wherever it is your ancestors were originally from.

 

[OniAu]

If you genuinely can’t stand the Welcome to Country you can always go back to Europe or Africa or Asia or wherever it is your ancestors were originally from.

Thats the general idea of it

 

[Gabbo64]

When it comes to Aboriginal cultural awareness there are so many wonderful people who are willing to listen, to learn and respect. Even if they disagree they always respect. Unfortunately, there is always one like yourself.

You may be 100% correct, however there may be some here who don't want this place to be political. The mantra "always was, always will be" is there on everyone of your posts. That is your belief and that is OK. I would prefer to see that in a political forum and not here. I think it provokes the wrong sort of debate here.

 

[ant22]

Ask the people delivering it whether they do it as an educational piece and whether they get paid to welcome us to their country. In what way does this help any indigenous communities work towards fairness and equality? It doesn’t! It’s a load of virtue signalling garbage.

I don’t think it does much at all to help the local communities. I’m not sure the haka helps Māori communities either but for me that’s not the point. We have the worlds oldest living culture and people get so precious when we make an effort to embrace it.

Katy Perry just got paid 5mil for a 20 min performance. The going rate for welcome to country is $730. It’s uncle Colin’s job to perform these as well as other tasks that the committee he works for consider to be educational.

So we get outraged over an aboriginal elder getting paid to perform one minute ceremony’s but we are ok with pop star getting 5 mil for 20 minutes.

I find it bizarre that of all the things in the world that people choose to get outraged over that welcome to country would be one of them.

 

[ant22]

You may be 100% correct, however there may be some here who don't want this place to be political. The mantra "always was, always will be" is there on everyone of your posts. That is your belief and that is OK. I would prefer to see that in a political forum and not here. I think it provokes the wrong sort of debate here.

I get it was meant as an innocent joke but I’d suggest the post hanging shit on welcome to country was itself political.

 

[jimmy35]

I don’t think it does much at all to help the local communities. I’m not sure the haka helps Māori communities either but for me that’s not the point. We have the worlds oldest living culture and people get so precious when we make an effort to embrace it.

Katy Perry just got paid 5mil for a 20 min performance. The going rate for welcome to country is $730. It’s uncle Colin’s job to perform these as well as other tasks that the committee he works for consider to be educational.

So we get outraged over an aboriginal elder getting paid to perform one minute ceremony’s but we are ok with pop star getting 5 mil for 20 minutes.

I find it bizarre that of all the things in the world that people choose to get outraged over that welcome to country would be one of them.

5M! ****!

 

[Pistol Night]

Yer crazy money. Btw I’m not suggesting we shouldn’t spend money on decent pre game entertainment. Just making the point that so many people get outraged at aboriginal elders getting paid for certain things that pale in comparison to where other monies are spent

Poor old Mike Brady. Lives under the MCG and eats pigeons and plays every year for $50 and a free pie

 

[Pistol Night]

I just wonder why people are so offended by it.

Its a minute of our time that we don't have to listen to BT. Be thankfull

 

[gouki88]

But should not Be shoved down our Throats as well

What utter garbage

 

[sr36]

What utter garbage

A minute is too long to be respectful. If the could just get it down to 30 seconds...

 

[TradeDraft]

What utter garbage

Why is it Garbage?

 

[gouki88]

Why is it Garbage?

It is by no means being “shoved down your throat”, and even if it were you should grow up and cop it. Pathetic to be whinging about gestures like this

 

[SchuPie]

Why is it Garbage?

Dave, if you start to see Welcome to Country as a way of uniting us and that it’s “our” ceremony, I think you’ll really enjoy and take great pride in it

So when the ceremony is on, it’s all of us, together, welcoming those who come here

 

[TradeDraft]

Dave, if you start to see Welcome to Country as a way of uniting us and that it’s “our” ceremony, I think you’ll really enjoy and take great pride in it

So when the ceremony is on, it’s all of us, together, welcoming those who come here

Thanks for Advice that makes more sense

 

[South of the Yarra]

You may be 100% correct, however there may be some here who don't want this place to be political. The mantra "always was, always will be" is there on everyone of your posts. That is your belief and that is OK. I would prefer to see that in a political forum and not here. I think it provokes the wrong sort of debate here.

If a statement on my profile of my pride in my identity, my connection to land and the respect to my Aboriginal culture is threatening to you and the four posters who liked your post then I am happy to go elsewhere and never post in the Collingwood forums again. All the best. Let's do better, hey.

 

[leon123]

If a statement on my profile of my pride in my identity, my connection to land and the respect to my Aboriginal culture is threatening to you and the four posters who liked your post then I am happy to go elsewhere and never post in the Collingwood forums again. All the best. Let's do better, hey.

Na, another perspective south, ignore and help edumicate dickheads. I truly enjoy your posts, please dont be influenced by fools, then, the fools win hey