Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry CANCELLED!

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?

 

[31550]

I thought your opinion was that FM never went for a drive?

I have said that is a possibility. It's not my opinion. My opinion is she did, just not when or necessarily where she said she did. It's also possible she didn't and that FGM made the drive.

 

[Earls Smother]

Newsflash..this is a case with tight timeline and will only be solved if it can be focussing on that timeline and whatever holes can be ascertained..
31550 has a eye for detail and is precise with these things. He has justifiably created credibility..All the people here have established credibility in their respective strengths and had a level of trust established because of it.. I don't yet trust anything new because it's untested. Over time a credibility may be established too. Good if it does. Until then I remain wary. No offence meant.

Just because someone has attended the inquest doesn't mean the posts they create are entirely unbiased and objective accounts. That is determined over time.

Being disrespectful to 31550 serves no purpose other than raising further questions on motive and objectivity quite apart from also breaching rules

Utter rubbish. He's a gatekeeper with no tolerance for anyone who doesn't agree with him.

I will treat him with the respect he deserves.

 

[Awakening]

Well this is an interesting article.

“We know William was alive at 9.37am as that is when the last known photograph of him was taken.


There has been some controversy over this time but it has since been confirmed at the ongoing inquest into his disappearance.

….there is no evidence of any digging tools being in the car, and the bush here is hard to walk through.

In September, news.com.au recreated this theory of what happened, returning to the house in Kendall to repeat her alleged movements including the drive.


We discovered it was physically possible – just.

What alarmed us was visiting the crossroads where police allege William’s body was disposed of that morning.

It is in full view of several buildings that used to be a riding school.“

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/alarming-results-as-cops-william-tyrrell-theory-tested/news-story/10eea04ebb4e42406c4ca6561ae81ee8

 

[31550]

Yes from 48 Benaroon.

No evidence anywhere to suggest any other move.

A human with a vehicle.

 

[31550]

Utter rubbish. He's a gatekeeper with no tolerance for anyone who doesn't agree with him.

I tolerate everyone. I don't have any choice.
I disagree with some. Disagreement is not intolerance. I lose patience with people who post erroneous or misleading information. Or who state opinion as fact. But I still read their stuff. That's tolerance.

 

[31550]

Utter rubbish. He's a gatekeeper with no tolerance for anyone who doesn't agree with him.

I will treat him with the respect he deserves.

The last sentence is a lie.

 

[Earls Smother]

No, I didn't know that the initial search included the section they went back to dig up. Or the creek.

It's also possible that I might have missed some posts.

Few pages back. About 18 square km's radiating out from the house.

 

[Earls Smother]

The last sentence is a lie.

Why?

 

[Awakening]

Thanks for joining me Wallace52

 

[Awakening]

Stop bickering or mums going to get the wooden spoon out

 

[Earls Smother]

A human with a vehicle.

We don't 100% know that.

 

[CodyRose]

I thought your opinion was that FM never went for a drive?

Someone went for a drive the car bonnet was warm according to the police

 

[Earls Smother]

I tolerate everyone. I don't have any choice.
I disagree with some. Disagreement is not intolerance. I lose patience with people who post erroneous or misleading information. Or who state opinion as fact. But I still read their stuff. That's tolerance.

I don't think you do read stuff.

Why did alwaysintrigued have to go and find something and write it out in crayon for you?

You only retain what you want to retain.

 

[passball]

07:00 - 07:30 : FFC opens curtains & sees 2 cars between # 31 ( AMS ) & #35 ( Peter's ) houses

FFC noticed 2 cars she saw earlier. FFC sipped & grazed hand.

After a few laps WT suggested they have a race . so they did & took off to the end of the driveway. Lindsay stopped in the middle of the driveway & said “whose that car Mummy?” , FFC looked & saw dark green -grey sedan pull into the Millers driveway & reverse out & leave, she said “ I don’t know , probably the neighbours”

And the FM said she didn't see any cars??? What???
This says she saw the 2 cars twice, but forgets that.
You might forget once but if you saw them twice you would remember and say yes to the 000 call.

 

[Underarrest_]

Drive 10:30 to 10:35.

Beat FF back by the time it took to go inside and get her phone.

This is possible. It would only take a few minutes to drive to the riding school and back.

 

[Earls Smother]

And the FM said she didn't see any cars??? What???
This says she saw the 2 cars twice, but forgets that.
You might forget once but if you saw them twice you would remember and say yes to the 000 call.

Ever heard of post traumatic memory lapses? It's actually a thing.

 

[Earls Smother]

This is possible. It would only take a few minutes to drive to the riding school and back.

Absolutely, 2 minutes each way. Got out briefly and realised she was wasting her time.

 

[Kurve]

Has anybody looked at the link OPERATION ARKSTONE in the sticky? These paedophiles from Kendall should have been on the suspect list and I hope their whereabouts on the day William went missing has been looked in to.

One of them would have been about 15yo at the time. Teenagers can be very dangerous, they often fly under the radar and I'd like to know whether he was at school that day.

Operation Arkstone

 

[Kurve]

Stop bickering or mums going to get the wooden spoon out

I'll do it too, I've been in bed this afternoon with an allergy or something and a nasty headache.

 

[31550]

I don't think you do read stuff.

Why did alwaysintrigued have to go and find something and write it out in crayon for you?

You only retain what you want to retain.

I read everything. Always intrigued could have just posted a link or reposted the data I asked about. So I scrolled through 128 posts to find the one they meant. Only I couldn't find it because it was in the middle of a very long post with a whole lot of other stuff. So I apologised and asked for the link, quite politely I thought. And yes I had read the post but because it was long and convoluted it hadn't sunk in that these were the tennis club CCTV times I asked for. Also, the post had subsequently been edited.

Again I apologise for not retaining 100% of the hundreds of pages of posts in this thread. I do spend too much time here but I am not here 24/7 and occasionally stuff doesn't sink in.

I am happy for you that you have a superior intellect and the ability to read all this stuff and retain everything every single poster has said.

On the other hand I don't expect everyone to remember everything and have happily posted and reposted things when asked and I try to provide links and be helpful rather than just saying "I already posted that" and making someone guess. I find that is easier all round.

Hope you can remember this entire post. There will be a quiz on it tomorrow.
Cheers

 

[31550]

We don't 100% know that.

Yeah right a 3YO in a Spiderman suit walked right past hundreds of searchers and dogs couldn't smell him.

 

[31550]

This is possible. It would only take a few minutes to drive to the riding school and back.

At regular speed perhaps. No time to stick your head out the window and look for William though, so seems a bit pointless. Wasn't that supposed to be the purpose? And then no time to get out of the car and look around (as written by Jubelin in his book, but that might be fiction too). Did she really expect William to be walking down the middle of BCR?

 

[Earls Smother]

Yeah right a 3YO in a Spiderman suit walked right past hundreds of searchers and dogs couldn't smell him.

You’ve never heard of a child being grabbed by someone on foot, at least initially?

 

[pinkjellybean]

This is what she said;

AMS said no, suggested bus stop on Crn Benaroon Drive & Batar Creek Rd, FFC ran to bus stop , heard the “scream” , ran back to # 48 Benaroon Drive, got in FGM car & drove looking for WT, drove down Batar Ck Rd, thought he could not have gotten that far, went back to FGM house, ran inside & got her mobile phone, saw message from MFC, she ran out to driveway , just as MFC drove in & asked him “ Have you got William?”

When FM allegedly heard the "scream", tried to investigate but found the bush too dense, it seems strange she would just abandon the idea of him possibly being there. Wouldn't you alert someone else or make sure the police looked there? So did she actually hear anything at all?

(Sorry if I've missed any "basic facts" again. I'm no Caroline Overington in terms of knowledge [or 31550 for that matter], just a new poster who has followed the case and am sharing thoughts like we all are).

 

[31550]

Well this is an interesting article.

“We know William was alive at 9.37am as that is when the last known photograph of him was taken.


There has been some controversy over this time but it has since been confirmed at the ongoing inquest into his disappearance.

….there is no evidence of any digging tools being in the car, and the bush here is hard to walk through.

In September, news.com.au recreated this theory of what happened, returning to the house in Kendall to repeat her alleged movements including the drive.


We discovered it was physically possible – just.

What alarmed us was visiting the crossroads where police allege William’s body was disposed of that morning.

It is in full view of several buildings that used to be a riding school.“

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/alarming-results-as-cops-william-tyrrell-theory-tested/news-story/10eea04ebb4e42406c4ca6561ae81ee8

Dan Box contradicts himself in the article above.

Run down the street to the neighbour’s house, asking if she has seen William. From this point on, the foster mother is with people other than her family, meaning there would be potential witnesses to any attempt to conceal his body.

If FM is with people other than family from this point (10:40 to 10:45 when she sees Anne Maree) then he is also saying the drive must have been BEFORE alerting the neighbours or there would be witnesses to the drive.