Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry CANCELLED!

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?

 

[Kurve]

I didn't know that about the DNA.


From what there is I feel like there isn't genuine concern from either the BPs or FPs (apart from the fact the FM is the main POI at the moment, that concerned her)
Seems like they have moved on, especially the BM.
This is what gets me. Why should I be so concerned when they aren't?
Just sad that a vulnerable little boy won't ever be found.
The lies and cover ups made this case go on for this long.
All William needed was the truth to be told, that simple.

I don't think William's BM needs to be in the same room as the FM, when the focus is on whether she may have disposed of her son's dead body and after her biological daughter was removed from the FM over assaults.

 

[Wallace52]

Dan Box:
“That's not what interested me though, listening to this recording. I'm interested in one particular moment.

Caroline Overington:
“We don't need to clear everything up, but do you want to just move that computer?”

Allanna Smith:
No worries.

Dan Box:
Which happens while they're still setting up the interview.

Caroline Overington:
We might need this chair then.

Allanna Smith:
Thank you. But you don't know that I have that.

Dan Box:

Alana says there's some stuff on here from the brief and hands it over. The brief is the brief of evidence, meaning all of the evidence the police have gathered, in this case for the inquest into William's disappearance, and which somehow leaked, got into the papers and ended up circling around the internet. And that matters, because this is evidence from a police investigation, which today is still ongoing.

And these leaked documents include police statements and transcripts of interviews with witnesses, including William's foster parents and their phone records, and photographs marked Protected and Confidential, all of which, if it becomes public, *** can only undermine the police and the inquest, and their chances of bringing to justice whoever it was who took William. And Alana must know she's not supposed[…]”

From Witness: William Tyrrell: The Suspect | 10, 9 Dec 2024

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*** who is trying to undermine the police and the inquest and their chances of bringing to justice whoever it was who took William?

Is it Allanna or someone else?

Who else is trying to undermine the inquest and the police??? Does anyone know??

 

[js47]

Is it time to let this case go?
10 years is a long time with no, or should I say too much, evidence, it won't be solved.

It is not a case it is about a little 3 year old boy who probably died. He died away from safety. He would have been terrified. Some one was responsible. Forget about his case? Just like parking a car.

 

[passball]

I don't think William's BM needs to be in the same room as the FM when the focus is on whether she may have disposed of her son's dead body and after her biological daughter was removed after assaults.

This is true.
I'm only going off the BMs behaviour 2 years after William went missing.
It would be very hard to hear the FM doing interviews saying 'my son'.

 

[passball]

I don’t think so.

It was like that there was a sunrise episode playing in the background of a photo the FM took on that Bali camera which showed the time on the sunrise episode.

I'm still looking for a dice in his mouth let alone seeing the tv inside.

 

[CodyRose]

Cody Rose great thought about FF and FM being awake.

If FM was awake she would probably just stay in bed with the FD who would be traumatised I would imagine trying to keep her asleep. FF no matter how quiet he was, would make little sounds like opening doors etc.

And then there was one

 

[js47]

Last thing i heard about that was the brother did it, involved pineapple, idk.
If it takes too long I actually don't think cases will get solved.
It's almost like people do commit the perfect murder and it's not like the POIs are even Einstein's.

But that does not make it ok. If people continue to think about it, talk about it, then that person lives on. The person/people who are responsible have their conscience pricked. And do not find peace.

 

[Poppy Penny]

But that does not make it ok. If people continue to think about it, talk about it, then that person lives on. The person/people who are responsible have their conscience pricked. And do not find peace.

And do not find peace. That sounds fair.

 

[passball]

But that does not make it ok. If people continue to think about it, talk about it, then that person lives on. The person/people who are responsible have their conscience pricked. And do not find peace.

That's the thing, they might not have a conscience, they just don't want to be caught.

 

[Poppy Penny]

No justice, no peace.

The timing was awful. Awful.

Box knew exactly what he was going to get from AS and wasn’t disappointed. He probably couldn’t hide his delight as he could use AS’s outburst to promote his dismal awfully timed podcast. Her language was no more awful than the language the FP’s used and was played on the audio tapes.

 

[Wallace52]

I'm still looking for a dice in his mouth let alone seeing the tv inside.

No, the TV thing happened ages ago …. before he went missing.

 

[Underarrest_]

I don’t know who’s responsible for William’s disappearance and whoever they are, they’re a monster.
I hope though that the two cars who were allegedly seen by FM in the street, the exact same cars owned by two separate people who are a friend of a friend, also one who is a known ped (not Abbott) and who has links to 300 or more kms away, the exact same place someone said they gave someone and a boy a lift too, has been totally looked into.
Maybe FM didn’t see the cars
but, very coincidental that she identified these two exact types of cars.

 

[Wallace52]

Box knew exactly what he was going to get from AS and wasn’t disappointed. He probably couldn’t hide his delight as he could use AS’s outburst to promote his dismal awfully timed podcast

She didn’t sound sober enough to give informed consent to record that conversation.

She sounded about 17 drinks and a Valium into her evening.

IMO

 

[passball]

I'm so sorry if I upset anybody with what I say, I don't want to upset anybody.
I feel so disappointed that William hasn't be found, it's heartbreaking.
And yet here I am still reading trying to find anything at all which may have been overlooked.
It's for William.

 

[shorsky]

If it's true, why wasn't it brought up at the inquest?

This is one of various ‘accusations’ that have surfaced over the years, involving FM or FF. Who knows ..

One would expect (at least Hope) that the investigation team checked them all out. However, as much as things may raise suspicion or appear to suggest a pattern of behaviour, there must be evidence specifically relevant to the case at hand for it to be brought forward (in this case, William’s)

And I think it’s fair to say that it’s the Lack of Evidence that is the overwhelming issue re this case.

IMO, that was the reason for the huge redaction in Det Laidlaw’s statement. The instructions was to provide documented evidence - instead he gave pages of his ‘thoughts’. … hence I think why Coroner declined his speaking at this last sitting of the inquest. She wasn’t interested in a bunch of ‘musings’ - she wanted to see all the evidence gathered over the 10 years.
I must add that I found that strange behaviour on the part of Laidlaw. He was no rookie, surely he’d contributed to inquests previously & should have been familiar with the requirements.

It’s a very sad outcome. So close to another Christmas, and still no answers for this little boy. He deserves so much better than what was delivered. There must be accountability for this expensive debacle.

 

[shorsky]

Maybe the Coroner knows something we don’t know.

One can only hope . .

 

[CodyRose]

I'm so sorry if I upset anybody with what I say, I don't want to upset anybody.
I feel so disappointed that William hasn't be found, it's heartbreaking.
And yet here I am still reading trying to find anything at all which may have been overlooked.
It's for William.

Agree justice hasn’t been done on behalf of William

 

[passball]

I don’t know who’s responsible for William’s disappearance and whoever they are, they’re a monster.
I hope though that the two cars who were allegedly seen by FM in the street, the exact same cars owned by two separate people who are a friend of a friend, also one who is a known ped (not Abbott) and who has links to 300 or more kms away, the exact same place someone said they gave someone and a boy a lift too, has been totally looked into.
Maybe FM didn’t see the cars
but, very coincidental that she identified these two exact types of cars.

Why didn't they let the public know about these cars sooner.
I think any information the Police have should be reported asap.
I mean everything, including a Foster status of a missing child.
If you hold back any information the public can't help which is not what you want.
If you hide details the public get suss and the theories begin.
10 years later and I have no idea what the Foster mum looks like.
These sort of things are important to people. Someone could have seen the FPS but have no clue who they are so it doesn't register with them to report it, it's just a random person in a crowd who is forgettable.
I hope there are changes around this, anything to help with the child being found it's a positive.
I think what Alannah did was great regardless of whatever she is doing now that has people upset, I don't know what she's doing.
She wanted the truth out there, even if it was for her reasons, and she worked hard doing it.

 

[Underarrest_]

Why didn't they let the public know about these cars sooner.
I think any information the Police have should be reported asap.
I mean everything, including a Foster status of a missing child.
If you hold back any information the public can't help which is not what you want.
If you hide details the public get suss and the theories begin.
10 years later and I have no idea what the Foster mum looks like.
These sort of things are important to people. Someone could have seen the FPS but have no clue who they are so it doesn't register with them to report it, it's just a random person in a crowd who is forgettable.
I hope there are changes around this, anything to help with the child being found it's a positive.
I think what Alannah did was great regardless of whatever she is doing now that has people upset, I don't know what she's doing.
She wanted the truth out there, even if it was for her reasons, and she worked hard doing it.

I think the cars were being looked at before being released to the public. There was a third one allegedly seen by FM and FD too.
I’d be interested if FD told police she saw this third car as FM said she did.

 

[shorsky]

I didn't know that about the DNA.


From what there is I feel like there isn't genuine concern from either the BPs or FPs (apart from the fact the FM is the main POI at the moment, that concerned her)
Seems like they have moved on, especially the BM.
This is what gets me. Why should I be so concerned when they aren't?
Just sad that a vulnerable little boy won't ever be found.
The lies and cover ups made this case go on for this long.
All William needed was the truth to be told, that simple.

I get what you’re saying passball… at the same time I don’t think William has been forgotten by his BPs. IMO they will always have him in their hearts & souls, and will be desperately wanting answers, while they also have to live in the ‘present’ for his 3 siblings ( and his Mum now has 2 new little ones).

TRUTH - so vital and yet so often, elusive.

 

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