Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry Current

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Suppression orders are in force, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
One even reduced bike riding to - BR

 

[Underarrest_]

Drive 10:30 to 10:35.

Beat FF back by the time it took to go inside and get her phone.

This is possible. It would only take a few minutes to drive to the riding school and back.

 

[Earls Smother]

And the FM said she didn't see any cars??? What???
This says she saw the 2 cars twice, but forgets that.
You might forget once but if you saw them twice you would remember and say yes to the 000 call.

Ever heard of post traumatic memory lapses? It's actually a thing.

 

[Earls Smother]

This is possible. It would only take a few minutes to drive to the riding school and back.

Absolutely, 2 minutes each way. Got out briefly and realised she was wasting her time.

 

[Kurve]

Has anybody looked at the link OPERATION ARKSTONE in the sticky? These paedophiles from Kendall should have been on the suspect list and I hope their whereabouts on the day William went missing has been looked in to.

One of them would have been about 15yo at the time. Teenagers can be very dangerous, they often fly under the radar and I'd like to know whether he was at school that day.

Operation Arkstone

 

[Kurve]

Stop bickering or mums going to get the wooden spoon out

I'll do it too, I've been in bed this afternoon with an allergy or something and a nasty headache.

 

[31550]

I don't think you do read stuff.

Why did alwaysintrigued have to go and find something and write it out in crayon for you?

You only retain what you want to retain.

I read everything. Always intrigued could have just posted a link or reposted the data I asked about. So I scrolled through 128 posts to find the one they meant. Only I couldn't find it because it was in the middle of a very long post with a whole lot of other stuff. So I apologised and asked for the link, quite politely I thought. And yes I had read the post but because it was long and convoluted it hadn't sunk in that these were the tennis club CCTV times I asked for. Also, the post had subsequently been edited.

Again I apologise for not retaining 100% of the hundreds of pages of posts in this thread. I do spend too much time here but I am not here 24/7 and occasionally stuff doesn't sink in.

I am happy for you that you have a superior intellect and the ability to read all this stuff and retain everything every single poster has said.

On the other hand I don't expect everyone to remember everything and have happily posted and reposted things when asked and I try to provide links and be helpful rather than just saying "I already posted that" and making someone guess. I find that is easier all round.

Hope you can remember this entire post. There will be a quiz on it tomorrow.
Cheers

 

[31550]

We don't 100% know that.

Yeah right a 3YO in a Spiderman suit walked right past hundreds of searchers and dogs couldn't smell him.

 

[31550]

This is possible. It would only take a few minutes to drive to the riding school and back.

At regular speed perhaps. No time to stick your head out the window and look for William though, so seems a bit pointless. Wasn't that supposed to be the purpose? And then no time to get out of the car and look around (as written by Jubelin in his book, but that might be fiction too). Did she really expect William to be walking down the middle of BCR?

 

[Earls Smother]

Yeah right a 3YO in a Spiderman suit walked right past hundreds of searchers and dogs couldn't smell him.

You’ve never heard of a child being grabbed by someone on foot, at least initially?

 

[pinkjellybean]

This is what she said;

AMS said no, suggested bus stop on Crn Benaroon Drive & Batar Creek Rd, FFC ran to bus stop , heard the “scream” , ran back to # 48 Benaroon Drive, got in FGM car & drove looking for WT, drove down Batar Ck Rd, thought he could not have gotten that far, went back to FGM house, ran inside & got her mobile phone, saw message from MFC, she ran out to driveway , just as MFC drove in & asked him “ Have you got William?”

When FM allegedly heard the "scream", tried to investigate but found the bush too dense, it seems strange she would just abandon the idea of him possibly being there. Wouldn't you alert someone else or make sure the police looked there? So did she actually hear anything at all?

(Sorry if I've missed any "basic facts" again. I'm no Caroline Overington in terms of knowledge [or 31550 for that matter], just a new poster who has followed the case and am sharing thoughts like we all are).

 

[31550]

Well this is an interesting article.

“We know William was alive at 9.37am as that is when the last known photograph of him was taken.


There has been some controversy over this time but it has since been confirmed at the ongoing inquest into his disappearance.

….there is no evidence of any digging tools being in the car, and the bush here is hard to walk through.

In September, news.com.au recreated this theory of what happened, returning to the house in Kendall to repeat her alleged movements including the drive.


We discovered it was physically possible – just.

What alarmed us was visiting the crossroads where police allege William’s body was disposed of that morning.

It is in full view of several buildings that used to be a riding school.“

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/alarming-results-as-cops-william-tyrrell-theory-tested/news-story/10eea04ebb4e42406c4ca6561ae81ee8

Dan Box contradicts himself in the article above.

Run down the street to the neighbour’s house, asking if she has seen William. From this point on, the foster mother is with people other than her family, meaning there would be potential witnesses to any attempt to conceal his body.

If FM is with people other than family from this point (10:40 to 10:45 when she sees Anne Maree) then he is also saying the drive must have been BEFORE alerting the neighbours or there would be witnesses to the drive.

 

[Earls Smother]

When FM allegedly heard the "scream", tried to investigate but found the bush too dense, it seems strange she would just abandon the idea of him possibly being there. Wouldn't you alert someone else or make sure the police looked there? So did she actually hear anything at all?

(Sorry if I've missed any "basic facts" again. I'm no Caroline Overington in terms of knowledge [or 31550 for that matter], just a new poster who has followed the case and am sharing thoughts like we all are).

A lot of her initial behaviour didn’t make a lot of sense.

If she really thought it was William’s scream she would have persisted. She likely realised it was another sound that she was hoping was him IMO.

 

[passball]

Ever heard of post traumatic memory lapses? It's actually a thing.

She said he was taken, abducted, kidnapped.
Then remember the cars for god's sake and not the cups of tea.
Leaving it out of the 000 call maybe, but not maybe.
But for days, NO.
Well no to both.

 

[31550]

You’ve never heard of a child being grabbed by someone on foot, at least initially?

Then there's two people on foot to spot - William and his nabber .... Unless if course the nabber has a .... VEHICLE! But you maintain there was no vehicle involved. Ok.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

When FM allegedly heard the "scream", tried to investigate but found the bush too dense, it seems strange she would just abandon the idea of him possibly being there. Wouldn't you alert someone else or make sure the police looked there? So did she actually hear anything at all?

(Sorry if I've missed any "basic facts" again. I'm no Caroline Overington in terms of knowledge [or 31550 for that matter], just a new poster who has followed the case and am sharing thoughts like we all are).

Imo FM likes the narrative. She has been storytelling all the way along. About the health of their parenting..About abduction hoax factors. About reasons for car trip..About a scream from the bush. it's ALL designed to hide the truth. That is just another one of COG lies.

The scream implies in subtle way that either he was taken and harmed OR that he wandered off and got into trouble and was hurt . Either way she's not responsible. The lies are so painfully obvious..

iF she seriously thought it was a child's scream she would chase it down....not merely mention it and hide behind the lie. Which characterises it exactly as a lie that she didn't

 

[Earls Smother]

She said he was taken, abducted, kidnapped.
Then remember the cars for god's sake and not the cups of tea.
Leaving it out of the 000 call maybe, but not maybe.
But for days, NO.
Well no to both.

Of course it would be better if she could remember them more clearly.

A poster a few days ago had contact with a searcher who also said there were 2 cars in that spot. It’s frustrating the lack of consistency from all witnesses, even the neutral ones.

 

[Earls Smother]

Then there's two people on foot to spot - William and his nabber .... Unless if course the nabber has a .... VEHICLE! But you maintain there was no vehicle involved. Ok.

Where have I “maintained” that?

It was a suggestion.

 

[InTheBleachers]

Of course it would be better if she could remember them more clearly.

A poster a few days ago had contact with a searcher who also said there were 2 cars in that spot. It’s frustrating the lack of consistency from all witnesses, even the neutral ones.

Paul Savage also saw two cars in that spot, he thinks it was the previous day. Before WT disappeared.

I think it is very possible that the man at 35 Benaroon had visitors who parked there. But we know so little about that person. Other than he left town about 3 weeks after WT disappeared. He is the man that FGM thought might have something to do with WT's disappearance.

 

[gymjam]

Ok, pairs then. But you can have multiple pairs from different dens in the area. Dens are often full of bones.

I would think if foxes were in the area back in 2014 there would have been fur tufts and footprints and dung around.

 

[Kurve]

I would think if foxes were in the area back in 2014 there would have been fur tufts and footprints and dung around.

Yes but they weren't looking for foxes back in 2014.

 

[gymjam]

Didn’t one of the police take the family tovDiamond Head to talk to William’s sister while they investigated the owner of 48 B Drive?

It was Wendy Hudson on Monday 15th that took both foster parents and the other child to Diamond Beach.

 

[31550]

Where have I “maintained” that?

It was a suggestion.

Oh, like an opinion? I didn't think we were allowed to have those?

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Of course it would be better if she could remember them more clearly.

A poster a few days ago had contact with a searcher who also said there were 2 cars in that spot. It’s frustrating the lack of consistency from all witnesses, even the neutral ones.

2 cars in that spot IN THE AFTERNOON!! Ie after the FM had already hid his body. Kinda relevant that it needs to be there beforehand..

 

[gymjam]

Yes but they weren't looking for foxes back in 2014.

We don't know that as far as I am aware the first mention of foxes was very recent. Made me considee if they had trail cameras installed to ascertain what animals might be scavenging in particular areas. Locals may have mentioned sightings too

 

[InTheBleachers]

It was Wendy Hudson on Monday 15th that took both foster parents and the other child to Diamond Beach.

I think she took them on Tuesday 16th. FD was interviewed by a child specialist detective on Monday 15th.


In a statement, senior constable Wendy Hudson reveals details of the initial search for William and his foster family's reaction. Ms Hudson said she took the family to a nearby beach, in plain clothes, while searchers continued to look for William on September 16.

William Tyrrell's last happy meal: Footage of boy's final dinner

Never-before-seen photos show William Tyrrell perched on his foster father's shoulders at a highway McDonald's the night before he disappeared.

www.dailymail.co.uk