Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry Current

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Suppression orders are in force, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
One even reduced bike riding to - BR

 

[js47]

Travelling to where?

If the car was sold to some one in Gymear (not sure of spelling) but know it is south Sydney some where did Fosters keep it after Gran died? Mmm

 

[shorsky]

I think he has been living in Israel.

Has Ben Atwood been ruled out as being involved??

The answer is in the file. I firmly believe that the person responsible for William’s disappearance is on the POI list. I don’t for a minute think the only POI that the cops have is the FM.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-atwood/

 

[js47]

https://www.passports.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-04/annex23.pdf

Thanks for that

 

[shorsky]

His video call/meeting started at 917am and his chemist receipt was apparently 919am?

Chemist receipt was 10.18am I think

 

[Underarrest_]

Thanks for that

You’re very welcome

 

[passball]

https://www.passports.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-04/annex23.pdf

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So who owns it, I'm confused.
Is it the agency?

 

[js47]

What infuriates me is some one else knows the full story and they are worse than the person responsible for William’s disappearance.

 

[js47]

 

[shorsky]

One sister ... younger.

Picked her up at Pt M airport sunday 14th same day FM and fostergran did their interviews at PtM police station late afternoon.

Fostergran no mention of her youngest daughter doing so.

Never any mention that sister had been in Kendall except GO reference to other daughter he spoke to on phone on Thursday.

BS never mentioned seeing FM sister on 9th during his 1st visit to 48 to inspect washing machine.

Thank you.

Surely Police checked GO & FGM phone records to see if there was communication with someone at #48 on the Thursday . .. and if so, who did he speak with ?

I do find it interesting that someone other than FGM supposedly answered a GO phone call, and PS said he saw a car in the driveway.

Was GO questioned aboit this at the earlier inquest or was his statement just accepted ?

 

[js47]

The way I read it the fosters with court docs etc can apply so they would be the holders.
Or they can delegate the agency to apply.
But! it is only my interpretation.

 

[shorsky]

What Taree group please?

The woman in clack camry refetred to by Peter the truck driver was likely the Kendall postie. She fitted the physical description and clothing as described fitted online photos of uniforms worn - black tshirt with black shorts - at Kendall PO. PO is very near opshop and she may have been doing a dropoff or pickup or just having a chat.

I think we can rule out the black camry and blonde woman now? Do we agree?

BTW postie was in Benaroon Drive at 8.45 on 12th. Jubelin stated the time.

8.45am in Benaroon Drive. How long was she in Benaroon Dr for I wonder.

I also wonder why no one mentioned seeing the Postie - not even FM who is well versed in seeing cars and who I think may have said she was in the yard with William at that time, climbing a tree or something.

That time would’ve been very close to when FF left the house if he went past Tennis Courts at 9.49am ( clocked at 9.40 / reported 9 mins slow in those days )

 

[js47]

Thank you.

Surely Police checked GO & FGM phone records to see if there was communication with someone at #48 on the Thursday . .. and if so, who did he speak with ?

I do find it interesting that someone other than FGM supposedly answered a GO phone call, and PS said he saw a car in the driveway.

Was GO questioned aboit this at the earlier inquest or was his statement just accepted ?

Also! FGM did a trip to Laurieton on Thursday didn’t she? That would take a while the drive etc. was some one there when she was not there?

 

[Underarrest_]

The way I read it the fosters with court docs etc can apply so they would be the holders.
Or they can delegate the agency to apply.
But! it is only my interpretation.

The agency responsible for a child (under the state) can authorise a carer, caseworker or org to apply.

 

[Awakening]

Can the black camry and the blonde woman be linked to the group in Taree?
Was the op shop stop to pick up boys clothes, etc?

I don’t tend to kidnap kids but if I did, I wouldn’t be popping into the op shop on the day of the kidnapping to purchase clothes for my victim.

 

[Awakening]

The 5 released photos from that day were taken within seconds of each other, and I dare say any others (at least of William) that have not been made public were taken just as quickly.

From my reasonable extensive experience of healthy little boys who have just turned 3, it’s impossible to keep them still for even 5 minutes - unless engrossed in something they really enjoy doing, eating ice cream perhaps, or heavily bribed with an enticing reward (that would need to appear pretty quickly )

My take on the iconic Roar photo was that William was really sick of being cooped up on that patio with nothing fun to play with, and that was him communicating the fact.

That’s why I think it’s very possible something could have happened to him as soon as 9:38.

I can just imagine “one more photo” and then a 3 yo boy tearing off once he was free.

 

[Awakening]

As it so happens in 2014 I had to get passports for my then 5 and 2 year old boys and ain’t any chance you are getting away with a cropped selfie.

I still remember the nightmare of trying to get them to look where the Aus post photographer wanted them to look, with no smiling, no movement.

Even the lightening and background is strictly enforced.

 

[31550]

As it so happens in 2014 I had to get passports for my then 5 and 2 year old boys and ain’t any chance you are getting away with a cropped selfie.

I still remember the nightmare of trying to get them to look where the Aus post photographer wanted them to look, with no smiling, no movement.

Even the lightening and background is strictly enforced.

Finally a voice of reason.

Getting a passport is a nontrivial exercise. Especially for a kid.
Not to mention the logistics involved in getting a kid out of the country unnoticed.
How many people would be involved that would need to keep quiet or be paid off?
None of them want the $1M reward?
And why? What's the motivation?
This discussion has jumped the shark again.

 

[Wallace52]

Does anyone know how many sisters FM has ?

She picked one up from airport a day after (?) William went missing.

If ‘another daughter’ was there on the Thursday, perhaps she drove FGM around on her errands.

One sister for the FM.

 

[Wallace52]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-atwood/

Ahhh heck, so he works as a …

International safeguarding response officer​

Holy moly.
So he literally works in child trafficking, as the “good guy.” Omg.

 

[Wallace52]

Finally a voice of reason.

Getting a passport is a nontrivial exercise. Especially for a kid.
Not to mention the logistics involved in getting a kid out of the country unnoticed.
How many people would be involved that would need to keep quiet or be paid off?
None of them want the $1M reward?
And why? What's the motivation?
This discussion has jumped the shark again.

He already had a passport. Before he went missing!

What do we think, he travelled to Bali in 2014 on his Medicare card? On his library pass? No. He had a passport.

 

[31550]

He already had a passport. Before he went missing!

What do we think, he travelled to Bali in 2014 on his Medicare card? On his library pass? No. He had a passport.

And if he travelled (officially) on that passport there would be immigration records, vis a stamps etc. easily checked and verified.
If he travelled 'unofficially' e.g. on a fishing boat or private plane/private airfield he wouldn't need any sort of passport.

 

[Wallace52]

If the car was sold to some one in Gymear (not sure of spelling) but know it is south Sydney some where did Fosters keep it after Gran died? Mmm

Gymea and it was owned by FM niece at the time when it was seized.

 

[Wallace52]

And if he travelled (officially) on that passport there would be immigration records, vis a stamps etc. easily checked and verified.
If he travelled 'unofficially' e.g. on a fishing boat or private plane/private airfield he wouldn't need any sort of passport.

Did anyone bother to do a passport check at Sydney airport for 12 September 2014?

 

[31550]

Gymea and it was owned by FM niece at the time when it was seized.

So if there is a niece, there is an extended family. Niece as in FGM's daughter's daughter? Or did FGM have a son, and a DIL, who had adult children? And did they live in northern NSW?

 

[Wallace52]

If you took a photo with a child could you copy that photo for a passport?

No.