Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * FM guilty of assault & intimidation

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[stormbird]

<snipped> The Foster mother then provides a photo album at the very next set of hearings, which is very odd behaviour. It just smacks of more manipulation and serious concern that it was unravelling, which it did.

When the police started digging up Kendall in 2021, I was literally was gobsmacked. It is like they still did not get it. I still wonder whether they get it now.

The photo albums were given to the coroner on the last day of the inquest (as it was at the time) as part of the fosters' family statement:

From Local Court Bench Book > Coronial matters: The family at the inquest:

"[families] will have the opportunity to honour the memory of their loved one by telling the court about them. This address will usually occur at the close of the evidence, but before closing submissions are commenced.

Although they do not have the status of evidence, “family statements”, as these addresses are known, are a very valuable part of the inquest. For the coroner they are an insight into the life of the deceased person, and what they meant to those who loved them. For the family this is an opportunity to honour their relative as the human being they were, rather than just being the subject of evidence about clinical procedures or police attention."

From News.com.au, 08 Oct 2020:

"On Thursday [08 Oct 2020], deputy state coroner Harriet Grahame heard from William’s families on the final day of an inquest that has run for a year and a half. ...

“It is out of respect for William’s life that we have gone through this difficult and painful process and we continue to go through the process,” Magistrate Grahame said as she closed the inquest. ...

She will hand down her findings on June 18, 2021."

 

[stormbird]

I think we’ve discussed his actions before, but I wonder is he roaring, or is he opening his mouth to show he doesn’t have some ( dice / crayon etc) in there ?

shorsky, are you replying to my post? It doesn't seem to fit with what you're saying.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

If it is, then the iconic photo was not taken on the 12th September.

For the iconic photo not to have been on the 12th AND William not to even be there because he met his demise on the trip after McDonald's it must be entirely consistent with what we do know:

* The FGM totally made up all that WT did in his play on verandah
- throwing not rolling dice
- the drawings
- taking over being boisterous
- roaring around the cnr
- EVERY small detail. Lie

* Two sets of neighbours having heard CHILDREN play plural were wrong. False memory or was instead singular

* The FD must have lied when asked where he went....."off the balcony looking for FF" even though he wasn't even there that day??? Do you honestly believe a child that young would do that? GJ even said in recent podcast her story was entirely consistent and she's been interviewed by LE experienced with young children. Then at inquest lied further saying that when she grows up she will be a police officer to go and find William

*:when FM showed WH the photos on arrival they were all from an earlier month and all the items were kept and put out as props to a staged event. FGM and FD knowing it was staged but keeping silent that it was

* At one stage they were all playing that hide and seek type game ( per wheres William podcast) and that part of grounds was open to anyone driving past perhaps in view of neighbours, postie etc FM then must have made that choice of lie risking the choice being exposed by those that should have seen.why would you lie in a way that risks exposure?

* "Two were in here and the other two were in here. Not sure who was with who" all made up because William was gone

* Why the FM car trip at all if he died the night before and hidden?

You want us to believe all that? Well IF you do a great staring point would be to resolve the missing time in trip which you say is 50 min per Lia Harris and others say didn't exist. Did you even think Harris might have just got 9.30 wrong?? No .....you'd rather think all the other people I listed must have been mistaken or lied just to promote the improbable as having happened.

 

[31550]

For the iconic photo not to have been on the 12th AND William not to even be there because he met his demise on the trip after McDonald's it must be entirely consistent with what we do know:

* The FGM totally made up all that WT did in his play on verandah
- throwing not rolling dice
- the drawings
- taking over being boisterous
- roaring around the cnr
- EVERY small detail. Lie

* Two sets of neighbours having heard CHILDREN play plural were wrong. False memory or was instead singular

* The FD must have lied when asked where he went....."off the balcony looking for FF" even though he wasn't even there that day??? Do you honestly believe a child that young would do that? GJ even said in recent podcast her story was entirely consistent and she's been interviewed by LE experienced with young children. Then at inquest lied further saying that when she grows up she will be a police officer to go and find William

*:when FM showed WH the photos on arrival they were all from an earlier month and all the items were kept and put out as props to a staged event. FGM and FD knowing it was staged but keeping silent that it was

* At one stage they were all playing that hide and seek type game ( per wheres William podcast) and that part of grounds was open to anyone driving past perhaps in view of neighbours, postie etc FM then must have made that choice of lie risking the choice being exposed by those that should have seen.why would you lie in a way that risks exposure?

* "Two were in here and the other two were in here. Not sure who was with who" all made up because William was gone

* Why the FM car trip at all if he died the night before and hidden?

You want us to believe all that? Well IF you do a great staring point would be to resolve the missing time in trip which you say is 50 min per Lia Harris and others say didn't exist. Did you even think Harris might have just got 9.30 wrong?? No .....you'd rather think all the other people I listed must have been mistaken or lied just to promote the improbable as having happened.

Occams razor = arrival was approx 9pm not 9:30.
Common sense says that if they left Heatherbrae after 6:40pm and made a short stop they would arrive at 9pm.
Common sense says that if an incident occurred after leaving Heatherbrae which resulted in death or serious injury to William, it would take a lot longer than 30 minutes to cover up.
Common sense also says that there are many simpler alibis to concoct if this did happen, without needing to get FGM or L to go along withe the narrative - e.g. FF takes William into the forest and hides him before 6am, then when everyone wakes up, "Where is William? Must have wandered off and got lost or been abducted." No need for any narrative about bike riding, tree climbing, dice rolling, looking for Daddy etc. He's just gone.

Only evidence of 9:30pm arrival is Lia Harris - how would she know? She wasn't there.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Occams razor = arrival was approx 9pm not 9:30.
Common sense says that if they left Heatherbrae after 6:40pm and made a short stop they would arrive at 9pm.
Common sense says that if an incident occurred after leaving Heatherbrae which resulted in death or serious injury to William, it would take a lot longer than 30 minutes to cover up.
Common sense also says that there are many simpler alibis to concoct if this did happen, without needing to get FGM or L to go along withe the narrative - e.g. FF takes William into the forest and hides him before 6am, then when everyone wakes up, "Where is William? Must have wandered off and got lost or been abducted." No need for any narrative about bike riding, tree climbing, dice rolling, looking for Daddy etc. He's just gone.

Only evidence of 9:30pm arrival is Lia Harris - how would she know? She wasn't there.

Yes Occam's razor AND confirmation bias for having accepted something already predetermined in your own mind then making every other piece for that result be forced to fit which ironically is what I and others have been accused of doing

 

[truecrimepath]

Sorry, seems I didn’t make my question clear. I’ll try another way :

Were ALL the photos of the children on the deck ( that were released by NSW ) EXIF version 2.21 ?

and it seems you’re not away that FM had any photos that are version 2.3 - you’re just saying IF she has …………….

Is that correct ?

Sorry, the only photo I could find EXIF on was the one released by the police on the 13th September, 2014.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Sorry, the only photo I could find EXIF on was the one released by the police on the 13th September, 2014.

So for the photo to be taken the camera must have had firmware which was 2009 origin even though other updates had occurred since. This could be explained If the manufacture date of the camera was a few years old and it was old stock shelf life which would have had the old version loaded. Absent more to incriminate the fact it's not what I'd call a smoking gun.

 

[Wallace52]

I believe William’s sister that William was playing with her on the morning that he disappeared.

I don’t think the photos provided by the FM are legit, but I do think William was there at the house. IMO

To be honest I have no idea if he was wearing a Spider-Man costume or if he had shoes on when he disappeared. Once the photos are ruled out or discredited, then everything is on the table.

But I do believe the little girl. He was there that day, at some point.

I also want to mention:

If the photos are bull*, that means that JS also knows they are bull*.

Hence that’s possibly why police had him under surveillance for at least 1000 hours.

If there has been any sort of coverup, if the photos are not genuine, then that would suggest JS is somehow involved in the cover up. I’m not suggesting he’s involved in William’s disappearance, just in helping SD to protect her rear-end. And if so: He needs to speak up and be helpful.